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Michigan State Senator responds to gunsplaining GOP Senator: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Dec 2021 OP
Time to "push an agenda." dchill Dec 2021 #1
I had a gunner right here on DU tell me that safe storage laws AndyS Dec 2021 #2
Gunners love their guns more than themselves, their families or other people RFCalifornia Dec 2021 #4
I've said that for years. shrike3 Dec 2021 #24
By telling them that they are wrong. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #5
I hate gun addicts, and I'm a gun owner. Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #6
Yeah, same here. SergeStorms Dec 2021 #16
+ agree that need for 2nd amendment and weaponry has significantly changed since 18th century. n/t iluvtennis Dec 2021 #19
You can't. Kingofalldems Dec 2021 #7
He probably sleeps with one under his pillow. 40RatRod Dec 2021 #10
What do they do? Sleep with it in their hand? Their "precious"? paleotn Dec 2021 #11
Gunners like their guns. All other excuses are BS IronLionZion Dec 2021 #13
No sense in having a gun for home defense unless one has it in their possession 24/7 Kaleva Dec 2021 #25
paranoid fuckers Skittles Dec 2021 #27
Should have 500 recs malaise Dec 2021 #3
I am waiting... Grins Dec 2021 #8
That's the Traildogbob Dec 2021 #22
Loved this speech! Riverman100 Dec 2021 #9
I am one who won't see it since wnylib Dec 2021 #18
Outstanding!! paleotn Dec 2021 #12
Next time she should use her 1A right they protect with 2A & call them vile, menacing cockblockers ancianita Dec 2021 #14
Speeches and outrage, but dear God don't harm our Republican fascism. johnthewoodworker Dec 2021 #15
She said "from first hand experience." progressoid Dec 2021 #17
Fabulous speech! Lonestarblue Dec 2021 #20
Cynically speaking, I just heard the sound of deaf ears ignoring her words. patphil Dec 2021 #21
Freedom seeds Traildogbob Dec 2021 #23
Gun humpers are selfish people. roamer65 Dec 2021 #26

dchill

(38,505 posts)
1. Time to "push an agenda."
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 04:25 PM
Dec 2021

Time to push SEVERAL agendas.
Hard and fast. Any hope of REAL freedoms is going to disappear.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
2. I had a gunner right here on DU tell me that safe storage laws
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 04:44 PM
Dec 2021

would be a way to prosecute 'law abiding citizens' for using a gun in home defense. See, he says, if he were able to get the gun fast enough to be of use it would mean that it wasn't secured therefore he would be charged with breaking the safe storage law.

How the fuck do you reason with that?

RFCalifornia

(440 posts)
4. Gunners love their guns more than themselves, their families or other people
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 05:08 PM
Dec 2021

Besides, people tend to break into your homes when you're not around

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
6. I hate gun addicts, and I'm a gun owner.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 05:15 PM
Dec 2021

The 2nd Amendment, in this day and age, is pathetic and laughable, and dangerous.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
16. Yeah, same here.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 05:55 PM
Dec 2021

Since the 2nd amendment was written, the reason why it was written has changed immensely.

The weaponry, since the 2nd amendment was written, has changed exponentially.

If we were to speak or write as they did in the 18th century, very few would understand anything we were saying. Even the bible has been revised so people today can better understand what means.

Yet we're still chained to 18th century ideas and language in the 21st century.

This all has to change, but the possibility of getting half the country to agree to this is next to impossible.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
11. What do they do? Sleep with it in their hand? Their "precious"?
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 05:46 PM
Dec 2021

What kind of misunderstanding of statistics and irrational fear does it take to live like those people? No, you can't reason with that. You can only outnumber them and OUT VOTE them.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
13. Gunners like their guns. All other excuses are BS
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 05:49 PM
Dec 2021

Waking up from a deep sleep to unlock your gun safe to accurately shoot an intruder is largely a fantasy. Most people can't do much of anything within a few minutes of waking up.

Considering how many times police make mistakes, even while fully awake and firearms trained, people can struggle to make good decisions under stressful active shooter situations.

More often they have Rittenhouse fantasies of killing people they don't like in sketchy self created "self-defense" scenarios.

Kaleva

(36,310 posts)
25. No sense in having a gun for home defense unless one has it in their possession 24/7
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 08:08 PM
Dec 2021

If one is actually worried about need for rapid response to a home invasion.

If rapid response isn't that much of an issue, there isn't much difference in time to retrieving a unsecured gun stored in a bedroom closet or in a night stand compared to retrieving a secured gun stored in similar locations.

Grins

(7,218 posts)
8. I am waiting...
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 05:39 PM
Dec 2021

…for a President, or a Governor, when asked after yet another mass shooting what they are going to do about it responds with:

“Nothing. If YOU don’t care, why should I?”

Just to hear him say that simple truth. And watch the reaction.

If the slaughter (and that’s the right word) of 22 2nd graders didn’t set this country on fire, what will? This will be a non-story before lunch.

Traildogbob

(8,756 posts)
22. That's the
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 07:07 PM
Dec 2021

Smartest thing I’ve ever heard about it. Most would not flinch at that response by a President these days.

Riverman100

(275 posts)
9. Loved this speech!
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 05:39 PM
Dec 2021

So spot on, but will anyone see it outside of some social media? This should be screamed from the rooftops

ancianita

(36,085 posts)
14. Next time she should use her 1A right they protect with 2A & call them vile, menacing cockblockers
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 05:49 PM
Dec 2021

of life, liberty and the pursuit of childhood innocence.

Oh, and thank you for posting.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
20. Fabulous speech!
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 06:35 PM
Dec 2021

Inloved the line where she asked whether they were there to protect the people they were elected to serve or to sell guns. Democrats are so literate, and Republicans are so illiterate.

patphil

(6,182 posts)
21. Cynically speaking, I just heard the sound of deaf ears ignoring her words.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 06:39 PM
Dec 2021

We are a nation that is addicted to gun violence, and it appears that nothing we can do will change that.
It's one of the greatest tragedies in this nation's history, and a large number of Americans simply don't give a shit.
Every year over 115 thousand people are wounded in gun violence, and over 38,800 die. And so many Americans must think this is OK because they don't want any restrictions on gun availability.

https://www.bradyunited.org/key-statistics

I mean, this is a nation where over 800,000 people have died from the Covid virus in less than 2 years. And so many Americans don't seem to think it is all that big a problem.
So, how would a mere 38,800 people phase them at all?

Alabama actually lost population in 2020 due to the Covid virus!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/covid-deaths-caused-alabama-s-population-shrink-first-time-n1279666

There are a lot of really fucked up people in this country.

Traildogbob

(8,756 posts)
23. Freedom seeds
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 07:20 PM
Dec 2021

Bullets. I live in WNC middle of the mountains. Cawthorn Country. All day everyday you hear non stop rapid fire from surrounding coves and mountains sides. Sound travels here. I just shout while I’m outside working, “shoot them damn lebruls, freedom.” I purchased some guns For protection. Especially after 2012 and Obama threats and civil war coming. I have no idea how the hell these mostly unemployed, poor racist, takers, can afford to blast ammo, freedom seeds, relentlessly. I have to hold on To the ammo I have for the possible future. Those seeds are expensive and I hear hundreds of rounds fired everyday. Chris Rock’s theory of outrageous priced ammo does not phase them. They just cook more meth then continue to buy seeds at any cost. And shoot librul targets taped to dozens of junk cars throughout their yards. Especially after church on Sunday. That fires em up.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
26. Gun humpers are selfish people.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 09:53 PM
Dec 2021

They don’t care if other people’s children are killed.

In fact, I think many of them enjoy it.

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