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kentuck

(111,103 posts)
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:11 PM Dec 2021

I truly appreciate and admire Liz Cheney...

...but that does not mean I would vote for her for President.

I am glad she is part of the Select Committee. I cannot wait to see her during the public hearings. Donald Trump will be in tears by the time she gets thru with him.

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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
1. The absolute most credit I will give her is enlightened self-interest.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:17 PM
Dec 2021

She threw her own sister under the bus for political expediency. I think she thinks this is the play… and hey, it’s good for us *and* the right thing to do, so I’ll absolutely take it. Do I trust her, though? Not a chance.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
5. I don't think it is self-interest. She is taking a huge risk, because she does not know
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:45 PM
Dec 2021

that the Trumpers are going to be defeated.

Yoyoyo77

(269 posts)
10. I really like her fiery hatred of Trump and Trumpism,
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 12:26 AM
Dec 2021

but I would never trust her, alone in a dark alley, after leaving a casino. My take on her is "what the hell do you mean Trump this my party!" "oops and my dads, of course."

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
12. I see no logical path to "self-interest" except historically and perhaps the long long long-term
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 07:32 AM
Dec 2021

(if democracy survives).

Those who know me know I had some experience (professionally and very early in my career) with Dick decades ago (well before the vice-Presidency) that left me stunned and forever opposed to him in every way possible. I've transferred that intense disdain and distrust to Liz on everything EXCEPT what she is doing right now. On this one large issue, she's earned my respect. Dick Cheney's letter with the other former Defense Secretaries calling for the military to stand firm against Trump's attempts to use them to keep him in the WH or related acts in opposition to their oath, is likewise admirable. The Cheneys' one "positive" is that they do believe in the constitution. And this clear-eyed cynic believes fully that that is the motivation on this issue.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
2. I look at it in terms of palace politics....
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:19 PM
Dec 2021

Trump represents a newer, brash, economic elite while Liz represents the old school WASPs. The latter at least believes in looking like a democracy, and each group wants to call the shots.

patphil

(6,182 posts)
4. I find it very difficult to admire her, but she is at least standing up for the Republic.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:44 PM
Dec 2021

I never thought I would see her as an ally in the fight to preserve the Republic, but then I never thought that nearly every Republican Senator and Representative would stand against the Republic.
When it comes to rallying around the flag, I'll take anyone who stands with me as a friend.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
6. I admire her courage.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:49 PM
Dec 2021

It can't be easy standing up to her entire Party. I give her a lot of credit.

patphil

(6,182 posts)
8. I agree. Her party went somewhere she was unwilling to go.
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:59 PM
Dec 2021

She stands for what the Republicans used to stand for; the Constitution and the rule of law.
She has courage, and will fight for the Republic.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
7. I do too. She could take the cowards way like all the others. But she has sarificed
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 10:53 PM
Dec 2021

her political career to do the right thing.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
11. Well it was either that or have a political career
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 12:49 AM
Dec 2021

kissing Trump's ass. If I had the wealth her family has, I wouldn't exactly worry about losing my job.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
14. It apparently worries every other Republican and they all
Tue Dec 7, 2021, 09:04 AM
Dec 2021

are wealthy. They don't have any problem kissing Trumps ass.

mvd

(65,174 posts)
9. Well at least she's standing up for democracy
Mon Dec 6, 2021, 11:03 PM
Dec 2021

What she wants the government to do is very wrong, but she doesn’t want an authoritarian regime like many Repukes want.

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