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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't know how else to put this: if a lot of us don't get "in your face-ain't backing up-
spit in your eye" PISSED OFF pretty damn soon, we are going to lose this nation.
There is NOTHING---not a damn thing!---that is more important right now than fighting to defeat every Republican on next November's ballot.
Let nothing slide. Oppose every Trumpie who opens their filthy mouth in your hearing. Interrupt them. Call their bullshit by its name. To hell with "polite".
Write letters to the editor. Put stickers on your car. Post signs in your yard.
Be sure every friend, neighbor and relative knows that you are voting straight Democratic. Some will be influenced to do the same.
And, please---don't let these traitors scare you into silence and inaction. We have much more to fear from a "president Trump" than we do from the camo-clad GI Joe wannabes strutting around in front of the cameras.
I know it is trite, but it's true: "If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention!"
Joinfortmill
(14,428 posts)Deuxcents
(16,244 posts)We need to get and stay fired up.. and vote ✅
ffr
(22,670 posts)Then they'll act to protect our democracy. They must know we have their backs!
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)I will kick both in their big fat ass - I'll never have their backs.
Eveh.
(Well, if they decide to publicly support President Biden's agenda, and vote for the BBB package as it stands, and vote to reform or get rid of the filibuster, and then vote for all election and voter protection bills going forward, and vote to expand the Supreme Court, etc.etc.etc then I'll gladly welcome them back into the Democratic fold. But as long as they are taking orders from Moscow Mitch I do not consider them full Democrats.
LoisB
(7,206 posts)gab13by13
(21,359 posts)Several big name traitors need indicted which would ramp up enthusiasm.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)The fucking traitors not only are being treated with kid gloves, they're still working to screw us all.
Where's the DoJ?????
Richard58
(239 posts)I'm fed up with dealing with these fascist asshats! I'm tired of trying to reason with them! I'm tired of trying to see things from "their point of view". I'm tired of just sitting back and letting them spew their hateful bullshit without consequence. This country is rapidly headed towards becoming a fascist theocracy and I won't stand for it! They have no right to threaten violence against anyone who isn't white, Christian, right-wing and heterosexual. They don't "own" this country!
I am a proud progressive and I am tired of trying to be nice to these jackasses. I am becoming much more bold in speaking out. I live in central Pa, which is a red area. Trump flags are everywhere as are Confederate ones. They proudly put "Fuck Biden" bumper stickers on their cars. But I have been told by liberal friends not to put liberal stickers on my car for fear of vandalism. If they can be in your face why can't I? They want to rule by intimidation but I say no!
Just the other day I was driving through a shopping center parking lot when I saw a skin-head looking guy come out of a store and he was wearing a black shirt that had an image of an AR15 on it with the words, "I oil my gun with the blood of liberals" under it. He wore that offense shirt proudly! I was very tempted to stop my car and call him a fascist prick to his face but I didn't want to possibly get involved in a brawl. But I was really pissed. Maybe I will get a shirt that says, "Republicans suck ass!"and wear it proudly around town! See how they like it!
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...you're absolutely right...
...we can't continue thinking and acting everything's okay, everything's back to normal when it isn't...
...these people are not going away...they will do whatever it takes to defeat us and take control of our country...
...in order to fix a problem you have to first acknowledge you have a problem...
...stop pretending...
...Houston, we have a problem...
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)have been shouting about the Republicans and what they were doing since a couple months before the 1980 Presidential Election.
Many Dems ignored us as crazy. Those and the so called "Reagan Democrats" refused to even think about what we were showing them.
Every four years, they simply went to the voting booth, voted, and then went back to being absorbed in their little worlds.
Some of us started screaming at the top of our lungs when Cheney/Rumsfeld et al started running the Republican Party and launching their crusade to obliterate the middle class while using "W" as a brain damaged front man
The perfect title for a book describing the last 40+ years would be: While The Nation Slept......
Duppers
(28,125 posts)"He who is not angry when there is just cause for anger is immoral. Why? Because anger looks to the good of justice.
And if you can live amid injustice without anger, you are immoral as well
as unjust."
- Thomas Aquinas
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)thx.....
3Hotdogs
(12,390 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Though I somehow doubt thats going to win any hearts and minds.
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hay rick
(7,624 posts)Join a group that is making phone calls or knocking on doors.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Our representatives will not expand the Court, will not end the fillibuster, so its pretty much over. MAGAs have taken over the courts and the election boards. They have redistricted. The young do not vote in large enough numbers. So right wing minority rule is coming in 2022 and will be here for at least a generation.
Our only choice is to do what we can to work as progressives and get around their mandates. A well funded network to help women get transported to blue areas for reproductive care, fund private progressive education for kids without the book bans and religious stuff thats coming as MAGAs have taken the school boards of public schools, send kids to progressive colleges in blue areas, keep growing the economic progressive hubs for high tech in the suburban metro areas.
The MAGAs are going to have the government and courts, so we will have to limit their effects on as many progressives as we can. Sadly our current leaders are not willing to take the drastic steps needed to prevent what is coming in Nov 2022. Once they get the House, any chance of doing a thing is long gone.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)I couldn't agree more. I've never been so sick and tired of all the BS. DJT should not be even walking the streets. He should be in jail and so should most of his followers if not all of them. Where will this end.
orleans
(34,056 posts)bumper stickers and calling someone out isn't gonna cut it
if our legislators and doj don't start kicking some ass and broadening their focus (from gerrymandering and mail in ballots to the idea that these red states are working it so they can fucking give themselves permission to throw out millions of dem votes and denying the democratic electors (!) we are fucked)
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)banking on the investigation of 1/6 and DOJ
I am beginning to get the feeling that it will end up like a big nothing burger, much like the Mueller Report.....
I guess the Dems have to do something they just don't know what or how ???????
From my point of view, and many others I talk to, there seems to be little real organization at the top of the Dem Party,
And certainly, there is no one person leading or a guiding and concentrated effort by them.......
Maybe I am mistaken, but I see a lot of people being charged, but no trials. My thinking is that the prosecutors don't want to take the criminals to trial knowing that it would take a unanimous decision to find them guilty, and they know that there is no chance in hell that there won't be at least one person in the jury who is a loyal Trumphumper........
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Call your Senators even in a red state.
Call Manchin and Sinema.
Call Chuck.
Getting pissed means nothing if the GOP gets away with their Shenanigans in Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, etc. etc. We MUST must MUST obtain two more Senate seats.
We can get out the vote - ONLY if we CAN vote.
on you mark, get set, make your calls. I do it EVERY SINGLE Morning and my Senators are are Menendez and Booker - ie sure things. I still call them, Schumer, Manchin and Sinema.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)that when I call or email, some staffer or intern just makes a tick on a sheet of paper. Another one adds all the ticks and reports the figure to their Senator.......
It would be FAR more impressive if someone could organize an effort for everyone to write a letter to them.
It would be more of a glaring example, if two or three hundred thousand letters were to be dumped on their office doorstep one morning by the USPS......It would make major media news and have a dramatic effect....The Senator, Dem or Repub would have to go in front of the press and explain their position........
Back in the day, Doonesbury did that to HWBush in his comic strip, and the issue was brought to surface across the nation....
The media had to address the truck loads of letters that hit HW's doorstep in one day......
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)CC'd in Chuck. I have access to Bob and Cory so they are 'ticking' it.
The tick is important. They pay attention to calls and letters. My letters to Manchin and Sinema are referenced every single day.
Joe Madison is engaged in a hunger strike - and a lot is going on in the Urban/Black Talk Radio space. You don't need FB to follow him on FB - but he's putting daily calls to action on there.
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JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Listened to him prior to social media. He was good friends with Dick Gregory, Rosa Parks, etc. etc. All of the old lions.
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)traitorsgalore
(1,396 posts)I think the "good trouble" method works a lot better. Such as going to a confederate statue and throwing blood on it, red paint if that's more suitable. Or, call a school district that's thinking of burning books and tell them you've informed the national press and included all their names.
Stuff like that gets a lot more attention than waiting for a politician to decide whether it's worth it to them to even care. Make them care by raising hell.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)for it, it is now. And not just every so often, but a continual hurang...........
Of course the down side is that their 70 million could do the same thing, but there are problems with them doing it:
#1) They wouldn't want to do anything that would give the USPS revenue. Although that too could serve it's purpose when they tried to
send their one page letter by FedEx or UPS and it cost them 15 bucks.......
#2) There are probably a goodly amount of them that aren't any good at reading, writing or arithmetic......LOL
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Black Votes matter. All that does is get the Fascists picking on black folks, latinos, asians, etc. etc. for the method.
If you can't follow our lead - then don't stand with us. Your method says politicians don't count.
Our methods say they do. Your method is the failed trope of the 60's left that says you can't trust the man.
Our method is - Obama was and is the man - Kamala is the maam - and we need more of them.
traitorsgalore
(1,396 posts)They hate everyone ya know.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)It will help us tremendously when the two voting rights bills pass, we secure the Senate and House, and approach fed gov for reparations via tax breaks.
Thank you so much - black America will do just fine without you.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Good trouble gets your head bashed in, death threats through your mail slot, etc. etc.
I make good trouble - and get white supremacist threats through my mail slot.
I take them as badge of honor.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)We won the presidency, the House, and essentially the Senate.
Yet everyday I see posts glooming about who is leaving the country? Trumpers stalking me in my car. Black flags everywhere. Were losing our nation.
Wow, this is not the spirited and strong DU I joined way back in the day
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Elessar Zappa
(14,004 posts)Gloom and doom.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Since we won all three, those bills are just flying to the presidents desk right?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I mean, really...
Paladin
(28,264 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)RED WHITE AND BLUE back up flying high on the front of our home.
1st small step.
With you all the way, Atticus! Let's keep brainstorming this.
llashram
(6,265 posts)21st century Hitler. I really believe he believes that. His storm troopers must be made aware that there is no fear among our forces. They are the forces of darkness. I laugh in their faces EVERY time they open their trap with their bullshit. I call them liars, traitors following their Hitler. I never concede any point. Never.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)If Garland does not start putting some high ranking Republicans in jail we are in trouble.
People will stay home in the midterms.
The abortion issue is our only hope.
I really hope this brings out the young women.
The republicans will run wild if they they get back into power.
There will be nobody to stop them.
Biden and Harris will be impeached.
I do not feel comfortable.
calimary
(81,307 posts)70sEraVet
(3,503 posts)Several years ago, I was working a job with a BUNCH of mandatory overtime. So I didn't really have time to study up on local elections, and the ballots don't list 'R' or 'D'' next to the names of many local candidates. But I had next door neighbors who WERE up on the local elections, and I knew them to be solid Dems. So I always studied their yard signs before going to the polls.
We have moved, and I am retired now. Maybe its MY turn to be the informed Democratic neighbor!
I think we lost the 2016 election because we didn't have many yard signs. Sounds stupid but I think it's true
CaptainTruth
(6,594 posts)My greatest fear is that my friends on the Left won't, & aren't, taking this seriously enough. I'm confident that if we take it as seriously a war to save our country we can win, but if we're at all complacent we will lose.
I hate to say it... but I have a bad feeling. I truly hope I'm wrong.
proud patriot
(100,706 posts)c-rational
(2,593 posts)Sparkly
(24,149 posts)Or a question of WHAT to do when we're pissed off, because I'm pretty sure anyone of average intellect already is.
What does "fighting" mean, exactly? Getting really red-faced angry and throwing a fit might work in a rare circumstance, but it's likely to backfire in most.
Letters to editors, stickers on cars, signs in yards - yes. It's meaningful to show the wingnuts that they are not the majority. It takes some courage though, considering their violent tendencies.
Absolutely, talking to people matters. The Republicans I knew have become Democrats, or don't talk to me anymore. There is nothing that would keep me from voting, from getting out the vote, or from helping other campaigns in other states.
It's just that the "in your face ain't-backing up spit in your eye PISSED OFF" machismo thing doesn't work for everyone. I'd look comical even trying that. (If the goal is to get people to split their sides from hysterical laughter, I could be a soldier in that army.)