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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think any country in the world could expect more from Russia as an ally than us
that is the sad place we are in today.
With the impending theft of our Democracy and the slow response from our leaders to hold the republican traitors to account, why would anyone trust our government to be consistent and trustworthy?
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)Gun violence, lack of civil rights for POC, rampant racism, treatment of women, white minority rule.
Lack of a basic safety net for all Americans. Healthcare, prescription drugs.
Lack of voting rights, loss of democracy. Inconsistant and corrupt leadership.
A big chunk of Americans are no longer in contact with reality, but instead harbor dangerous delusions.
The list goes on and on.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)America is bad, therefore America has no right to criticize Russia while they do very bad things.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)Our human rights record is awful and we have invaded other countries illegally.
Our leadership is corrupt and we are heading for autocratic rule.
Putin took our weaknesses and expanded them greatly.
The old Roman war tactic of "divide and conquer."
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)Putinite.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Neither Russia nor China is participating in this celebration and support of government OF, BY AND FOR THE PEOPLE.
And if these authoritarian dictators tried to, their presence would undermine and dishonor the concept.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)ShazamIam
(2,575 posts)the U.S. That we have not as a nation lived the ideals we sold.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)Im sure it sounded better to the OP in the original Russian.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)mathematic
(1,439 posts)Elessar Zappa
(14,004 posts)Am I misunderstanding your post?
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Russia is not a very attractive ally.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)As of 2021, the United States maintains roughly 900 troops in Syria, with the majority deployed in the ESSA in support of SDF counter-IS operations. Roughly, 100 U.S. personnel are based at the At Tanf garrison in southeast Syria, where they support a local partner force.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11930
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)Do other nations trust Russia or China to be more consistent and trustworthy than the U.S.? I think not.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)back, but can't trust that America's populist/authoritarian right AND left won't turn the nation over to extremists again.
Congress is on the block in less than a year now. There are far fewer illiberal populists on the left than right, but united with the right they were enough to throw the whole planet under the bus once and tomorrow's could be again. Putin worked to make that happen, for obvious reasons.
Btw, a large study since then confirmed that LW authoritarianism is real and more of a factor than previously measured, though less numerous and probably less virulent than RW. Further studies underway as the planet reels from RW/LW authoritarian attacks in many nations.
I was sure before this that we were seeing it, though. Notably, in 2016, 12% of the 43% who voted for the LW populist/socialist/progressive leader in the primary pivoted to vote for the RW fascistic, white nationalist populist leader in the GE. The from-Sanders-direct-to-tRump group was about 5% of those who voted in the Democratic primary. Things got a lot more decent and responsible on the left once they decamped to tRump.
(Another 12-13% voted third party, and very likely some among them were drawn to authoritarianism but couldn't stomach tRump. Also keeping in mind the 100,000,000 adults who didn't vote at all. Should be a fair number of authoritarian-leaning duds in that group. (Please, let no one excite them.)
Because turns out LW authoriarians are "extremely similar" to RW authoritarians, just as LW and RW populists are extremely similar, with strong overlap between the two studied types. Including their shared reason-for-being antipathy to Democrats.
... Right-wing authoritarians tend to aggressively back the established hierarchy, while left-wing authoritarians tend to aggressively oppose it. They are almost like mirror images of one another that both share a common psychological core, the researchers conclude.
Authoritarians have a predisposition for liking sameness and opposing differences among people in their environment. They are submissive to people they perceive as authority figures, they are dominant and aggressive towards people they disagree with, and they are careful to obey what they consider the norms for their respective groups. At its core, authoritarianism is likely about power.
Its a mistake to think of authoritarianism as a right-wing concept, as some researchers have in the past.
We found that ideology becomes secondary. Psychologically speaking, youre an authoritarian first, and an ideologue only as it serves the power structure that you support. ...
Another key finding is that authoritarianism from both ends of the spectrum is predictive of personal involvement in political violence. While left-wing authoritarianism predicts for political violence against the system in power, right-wing authoritarianism predicts for political violence in support of the system in power.
https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/09/esc_left_wing_authoritarians_psychology/campus.html
"Lock her up!"
We have to show both our nation and the world stability and strength of commitment next fall. For now, we've inherited the whirlwind sowed by the worst among us. and our international power has greatly diminished since Obama's presidency,