The Crumbleys really were irresponsible parents:

[tblue37]

Oxford school shooter appears 'disoriented' in newly released video — and brother admits parents gave him weed
Sarah K. Burris

A video obtained by the Daily Mail shows the Oxford, Michigan shooter, Ethan Crumbley, as he appears to wobble through the kitchen of a diner and slips on the floor, falls and hits his head.

The teen who would become the latest in a long line of mass shooters was just 14 at the time. He was working at a diner in Sept. 2020 where he appeared to be walking funny, collapsed, and hits his head on a cabinet. He appeared to have a problem getting up, and someone comes to help him.

Crumbley's mother was called, and she said that he may not have eaten that day, but the owner didn't buy the excuse. She then said that it could have been caused by Crumbley's medications.

The owner also said that Ethan's older brother Eli was caught smoking cannabis while working at the same diner. The staff threatened to call Eli's parents, and he said "Where do you think I got it from?"

https://www.rawstory.com/ethan-crumbley-video-surfaces-stumbles/?cx_testId=6&cx_testVariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=3#cxrecs_s

[BannonsLiver]

1. Now they can all be irresponsible together in prison for life.

Not interested in any excuses for this monster and his shitty trashy family.

[JustAnotherGen]

2. +1

[Wingus Dingus]

3. Medications? Wonder what he was on? If he had mental/emotional problems

already diagnosed and required meds at 14, then the handgun gift is not merely insane and illegal, it's like they were hoping something bad would happen with him.

[secondwind]

4. What a sad video.......... seeing a young boy in this condition......

[BannonsLiver]

9. Yeah

Imagine the “condition” of the 4 children he murdered in cold blood. But hey, poor wittle Ethan.

[Caliman73]

14. I think that you can do both.

People who commit acts of violence like Crumbley did, are often also victims themselves. It does not excuse what they did, simply understands that the parents really messed their kid up.

I didn't see the poster say anything about not caring about the murder victims. Simply acknowledging that Crumbley's life and parents appear to be messed up.

[Jilly_in_VA]

5. He probably

got hold of some of Mumsy's drugs. God only knows what she was on. Or maybe he was self-medicating. A lot of kids do. Or doing cough syrup, or just a "handful"...kids also do that. A handful of whatever pills are handy in the medicine chest.

[cagefreesoylentgreen]

6. If the abuse allegations are true

The DA should rethink charging Ethan as an adult.

[BannonsLiver]

7. Or not.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. This kid had the deck stacked against him from day one.

[Demobrat]

10. Lots of kids do

They don’t become mass murderers.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. So I've been told.

[Act_of_Reparation]

15. No. But most become some kind of asshole or another.

So maybe don't neglect or abuse your kids.

[Demobrat]

17. I don't have kids.

But thanks for the advice.

[Act_of_Reparation]

18. FFS.

It wasn't directed at you, individually. Jesus.

[BlackSkimmer]

12. I agree. This is looking more and more like an awful case of child abuse.

That ended up with murdered children.

It’s just wrenchingly horrible and tragic.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. Agree.

[Solly Mack]

16. I think it goes deeper and far worse than irresponsible.

They sound abusive.

I get the feeling that a child's survival in that household was a matter of chance, with the parents doing whatever they wanted to do without regard to the well-being of their children.

A "sink or swim" environment.

Feral parenting.