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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1468239713928724494.html1) Nearly a year later, the state has still failed to meaningfully punish those who carried out the deadly 1/6 assault on the Capitol, much less punish its organizers in Trump, Bannon, Guiliani, Christopher Miller, Josh Hawley, etc.
Why does this matter? White backlash mvmnts rely on a collaboration btwn vigilantes & the state. We see this most clearly in the local nature of coup attempts during Reconstruction & Jim Crow. Lawmakers encouraged supremacist violence & legitimized participants.
From the Liberty Place & Wilmington coups in the 19th century to the and St. Louis, Tulsa, Orangeburg, and Greensboro massacres & suppressionist violence of the 20c, white vigilantes & state actors worked hand-in-hand.
This pattern defined the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests, during which cops & vigilantes worked together to beat the shit out of protesters, since legitimized in the Rittenhouse verdict. Rather than interrupt this alliance, Dems allowed it to metastasize.
2) Republicans have further rigged an already antidemocratic system to cement white power indefinitely, passing state-level voting restrictions & redistricting following the Wisconsin model of minoritarian rule.
Why does this matter? The ethnonationalism & white supremacy of the GOP are unpopular, & Dems have reasonably relied on that unpopularity to win office & keep the very worst bad actors from winning power.
After finding that the piecemeal suppressionist efforts & institutional means of overturning the 2020 election insufficient, Republicans have expanded both.
Republicans passed voter restrictions in 19 states like Georgia & Texas making it harder to vote white pursuing reforms in making it easier to toss out results in which Dms win.
GOP lawmakers seek greater control over local elections | AP News
Partisan takeovers of election boards. Threats to fine county election officials and overturn results...
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-politics-legislature-local-elections-bills-73b331234cec8c966bb2308f6ed1696e
At the very same time, Republicans passed bills in 36 states making it easier to arrest & run over protesters, which would be Dems only recourse following GOP suppression & election rigging.
US Protest Law Tracker - ICNL
The US Protest Law Tracker, part of ICNLs US Program, follows initiatives at the state and federal level since November 2016 that restrict the right to protest. Click this link to see the full Tracke
https://www.icnl.org/usprotestlawtracker/
Finally, Republicans are in the midst of an anti-CRT campaign making it illegal to criticize white supremacist structures, even historically, in classroom & state agencies, again leaving Dems w/o recourse after GOP sabotage.
In short, the system they created is incredibly thorough, designed to prevent fallout from suppression. It MIRRORS PRECISELY the tactics white supremacists used to create & affirm via SCOTUS an apartheid state from the 1890s through the 1960s in the U.S.
This means that unless Dems pass & implement federal legislation (like yesterday, tbh) addressing this 3-pronged attack on democracy, 2022 or 2024 will likely bring the final death of multiracial democracy.
3) Finally, mainstream reporting & public discourse continue to treat the GOP as a legitimate party & bipartisanship as a legitimate end.
Why does this matter? The bipartisan descriptions of the GOP assault on democracy as, for ex, polarization, hide the ways that the GOP has radicalized over the last 40 (& esp 10) yrs.
Refusing to acknowledge GOP radicalization (not to mention the proliferation of online right wing misinformation) makes it difficult for most Americans to understand the causes of our current crisis.
Historically, the most violent white supremacist backlashes occurred in response to multiracial organizing like we saw in 2020 that led mainstream & centrist forces to align with white reactionaries in the name of civility.
We see that most clearly during Reconstruction, Jim Crow, Red Summer, & Massive Resistance, during which white vigilante & state forces meted out mass violence while white elites found new ways to rig the system.
This white "moderatism" seeks power in preserving or reestablishing a white consensus politics by undermining critique of the "bipartisan" white consensus as inherently illegitimate.
A much longer thread on that dynamic here, but the nutshell is that from legacy to social media, our information networks are owned & operated by those literally invested in the white consensus.
Perhaps Dems & legacy media simply haven't learned the "lessons of the last 4 yrs" or whatever. Maybe. But the behavior fits a specific pattern of historic white backlashes that put those outside the "white consensus" in mortal danger.
Civil wars are miserable & horribly deadly, but they usually carry the potential for a better, more equitable future. Unless we change course dramatically & right away, the current white backlash leaves little room for that hope. /end
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)U less Democrats do this
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First it isnt Democrats at large. It is a couple of Democrats and guess what???? It is more important to point out that out of the monolithic block of Republicans a few could also wake the fuck up and save the country. But hey why not put the blame of the countrys demise at the feet of the party that by and large is actually trying to stop it from happening.
Fuck this. I am so tired of this stupid merry go round bullshit game.
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)It's on Democrats to save our Republic if it is salvageable at all. So it IS on them.
Many Democratic Senators are AGAINST even temporarily lifting the filibuster (not just Manchin) - for ANY reason. Even to save our Republic. They cling to an asinine, unconstitutional, undemocratic senate RULE while Democracy DIES in front of our eyes.
It's on THEM.
"A Republic if you can keep it"
Republicans have NO interest in keeping it and actively trying to destroy it
Democrats have NO interest in stopping them and are either oblivious, indifferent, or too married to an asinine rule that Republicans would DAMN SURE use if they were in the same sitch. But Democrats will NOT budge.
It's on THEM.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)2? 4? 6? what do you consider Many?
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)That was my point.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)And the fact that they hide behind Manchin and Sinema leads one to believe that if those two were brought along the others could as well.
brush
(53,787 posts)Blame it on the republicans and the two DINO senators who work with with them.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Voters and financial backers.
Without these, those BS politicians couldnt exist.
brush
(53,787 posts)who put the republican crooks in office, not the voters who put Biden in office who is trying to help voters with the finally passed infrastructure bill and the yet-to-pas BBB bill.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)It's the voters in red states that keep sending people like MTG, McConnell, Boebert, Gohmert, Nunes, et al. to Congress and the Senate.
Who else would I have been writing about?
Why would I blame Democratic voters? Jeez.
brush
(53,787 posts)Bobstandard
(1,312 posts)Play the blame game all you want. The message is unless we act now were screwed
Heres just one example: call the editors of your local newspaper and criticize them for their coverage. Just repeat the stuff in the op if you have to
Call your local talk radio station and go through the points in the op. Doesnt matter the host will derail you. The message goes out!
This knee jerk blame game reaction is so useless!
brush
(53,787 posts)Escurumbele
(3,395 posts)Biden should have already made plans to get rid of the "Electoral College", to add five more judges to the Supreme Court, to place someone in charge of the DOJ with more guts to put trump and his accomplices behind bars, to also make sure republicans cannot pass laws to disenfranchise non whites from voting, as well as impede them from setting laws through that makes them all powerful when deciding elections.
Democrats should be going to the media to denounce the media for their hypocrisy and their lack of honesty, and also denounce republicans. The problem with the Democratic party is that it is too reactive, they need to be more proactive, to fight hard and to stop thinking republicans have any interest in Democracy or bipartisanship.
The first action to fix a problem is to recognize there is a problem, and we have a huge problem on our hands that unless the Democratic party act on it the country will go down the toilet, it is as simple as that.
A boxer doesn't fight against him/herself, a boxer fights against an opponent, and if he/she does not throw punches, he/she will eventually get knocked out.
brush
(53,787 posts)to everything you're proposing, seeing as how the Senate works. If the two aren't insisting on bipartisanship (60 votes to pass anything), they're obstructing their own party by blocking reconciliation bills with republican-like changes which the Dem progressives won't go for, thus the bills won't pass with 50 votes + the VP's tie-breaker vote.
You are aware of all this, right?
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)With the inclusion of more Hispanics and Asians race will matter more on a spectrum, rather than just black and white. Various pluralities will jockey for position and there will be shifting alliances between multiple parties that will come and go.
Probably we will evolve to be a lot like Brazil.
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)Who is destroying Brazilian rainforests to plant soybeans to feed chickens and cows we eat, among other Trumpian behavior.
IOW, it may be 'different' than the author says but certainly not in any way better.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)For another example of how a multi-racial, multi-lingual, multi-ethnic democracy works, see India.
erronis
(15,303 posts)Under Modi's tenure, India has experienced democratic backsliding.[f] According to one study, "The BJP government incrementally but systemically attacked nearly all existing mechanisms that are in place to hold the political executive to account, either by ensuring that these mechanisms became subservient to the political executive or were captured by party loyalists."[222][328] Scholars also point to how the Modi government has used state power to intimidate and stifle critics in the media and academia, thus undermining freedom of expression and alternative sources of information.[226][223] There have been several reports of the Modi government to be as an authoritarian conservative government, even due to lack of good opposition.[329]
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)erronis
(15,303 posts)Right for those who want to hold power based on ethnic, racial, class reasons.
KS Toronado
(17,259 posts)They will never work with us to make America a better place where everyone is treated equally.
They just want more power & money.
Its all about money. Using the media to leverage existing bigotry, scapegoating and fear to manipulate all motivated by greed. Creating a poor society that has no option but to work as economic slaves for profit of the wealthy.
KS Toronado
(17,259 posts)You write like an anti stupid person. Good to see.
anti stupid
(83 posts)Poiuyt
(18,125 posts)Poiuyt was an anti-stupid person.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Everyone needs to read this.
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)ancianita
(36,081 posts)I'm with Mineral Man. It's in the timing.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)What they will REALLY get is a Yugoslavian style break up.
I guarantee it with the massive gun ownership in this country.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)Response to CousinIT (Original post)
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Poiuyt
(18,125 posts)AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)We are in the middle of a white black lash and he teaches a course addressing it. Sounds interesting.
AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)A lot of us are armed..
We do have guns, I have guns.
Self protection against your right wing neighbor might be important.
The gun nuts on the right think we will not fight back
Surprise them.