Sorry folks but we need a stronger AG I am just being as honest as I can be.

[Nikki28]

MG is not getting anything done. I watch RM last night and could hardly watch.Even she is shaken. why can't Biden do like Trump and put acting officials in place in the FBI like the ones Trump got rid of. I know Biden is a nice moral man, but we are at the end of our democracy and he needs some better advisors to start bringing guns to gun fights. I believe we are done in 22 if something does not change. you have judges changing their minds about retiring.Repukes paid them off.You have many judges letting the states get away with about to flip elections.What is Garland doing about it. I hate to say it, but we need a Bill Barr as AG because in all honestly, I do not care about the other infrastructure bill right now. I think we better do something like yesterday about the voting rights.

Do what Trump would do.Threat them and pull those people who Trump put in FBI out. Congress should impeach those judges who are put in by Trump because you better believe if they take back this house, Biden will be impeached the first day the new congress begin. I am only watching hear and there,but only keep up here and watch Rachael. We all should be worried. I need to see the Dems fighting dirty and not let these quacks run all over them.It will take all of us. I guess I am just grieving for the country we are about to lose and Trump will be another Putin.

we need Lincoln Project crew and start talking voting rights. Start arresting all who don't show up to testify. It is not looking good for us.Tim Ryan has been the only Dem I have seen blast these people and Whitehorse.Put them out front for our talking points. Also find a good nominee who can run in 24, because it has nothing to do with Biden, but I honestly do not think he will run.I don't think Pete or Kamala will be accepted by all. We need someone like Newsome or who has balls like Cuomo,who is not afraid to stand up to these traitors. I don't care about his past.Look at Trump. We have to change because being nice is not going to cut it. JMHO.

[BlueTsunami2018]

1. We can't. We have to do the "right" thing.

We can’t act like they do because we’re “better”.

Meanwhile they’re eating our lunch and not giving a fuck about outdated notions of honor and ethics. That’s why they’ve won the game.

It’s all too late.

[dalton99a]

14. +1. When wrestling with pigs, it's important to wear a certified pure cotton white shirt

to show that we are better

[NewHendoLib]

34. Yup. Totally agree.

[smirkymonkey]

116. +1000

[Phoenix61]

2. I didn't realize you were on MG's email list.

Because that’s the only way you would know what he is or isn’t doing.

[msfiddlestix]

18. And you just made the OP's point.

[Phoenix61]

36. Not hardly. What charges do you think

Garland could bring against Trump right now that would lead to a conviction?

[SayItLoud]

77. I'll take Individual1 for 200. nt

[Phoenix61]

83. The question was what charges not who to charge. nt

[Fullduplexxx]

3. He's doing something . The doj just closed the Emmett till investigation

[msfiddlestix]

20. Wait. What? I missed this news.

I have to catch up.

shit at this moment i don't know if that is a good or bad thing,

[Fullduplexxx]

26. By Audra D. S. Burch and Tariro Mzezewa Published Dec. 6, 2021 Updated Dec. 7, 2021, 12:01 a.m. ET A

By Audra D. S. Burch and Tariro Mzezewa
Published Dec. 6, 2021
Updated Dec. 7, 2021, 12:01 a.m. ET
ATLANTA — The Justice Department announced on Monday that it had closed an investigation into the abduction and murder of Emmett Till, the African American teenager whose gruesome killing by two white men more than six decades ago in Mississippi helped begin the civil rights movement.

In a news release dated Dec. 6, federal officials said there was not enough evidence to pursue charges in the case, which was reopened after a historian claimed in a book that Carolyn Bryant Donham, the central witness whose account of an encounter with Emmett led to his death, had recanted the most salacious portions of her story — that he had grabbed her and made sexually suggestive remarks.

[msfiddlestix]

28. Tears...

thanks for the link. I have no words.

[MineralMan]

4. And who are you? What is your experience with

federal law enforcement and DOJ matters? I'm not familiar with you or your previous postings, so you'll please forgive me for asking these questions...

Do you have any insider information that lets you know what the AG is up to?

I suspect the answers will not give us a lot of confidence in the validity of your negative opinion of things. Perhaps you are just frustrated with the pace of DOJ investigations and prosecutions. Perhaps you don't actually understand how the DOJ operates? So I suspect.

[Gaugamela]

13. Here are some more questions:

Does the DOJ have a spokesperson? Do they have a PR Department? Are they aware of how demoralizing it is for Americans to see the seat of their government attacked and defiled with no apparent response ten months later? Does MG need to borrow a speech writer? Is he camera shy? Can he walk and chew gum at the same time? Is he incapable of making a strong statement about the arduous process of justice and his commitment to it without compromising the investigation?

[msfiddlestix]

23. This 10,000 %

very bizarre position to take in belittling people with legitimate questions in the context of the violent insurrection and coup attempt to overthrow our duly elected president. It is very puzzling indeed.

[calimary]

60. Yep. THIS!

Why are they playing footsie with Bannon? And now, too, with Mark Meadows?

They need to be IN JAIL. NOW!!!

How do you think the republi-CONS would be handling this, if the situation were reversed? Would they be playing patty-cake too? I kinda doubt it.

[MyOwnPeace]

73. Just announced......

Bannon will go to court - IN JULY, 2022!!!!

How special - you 'thumb your nose' or 'flip off' the U.S Congress (I'm sure he did 'the finger' - not the nose) and you get to wait another year to see what they'll do to you - or at least start to try to do to you.

THIS WAS AN INSURRECTION - an attempt to overthrow the US GOVERNMENT!!!!!

W - T - F!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Progressive Jones]

117. He asked the court for October 2022. He got July 2022. Still too much time.

The prosecutors in this matter told the judge that they could present their case against Bannon tp a jury in one day.

Trump appointed judge. Oh! What a surprise!!!

This greasy mofo Bannon is going to drag this out as long as he can.

Legal question: Can the prosecution move to get this into another court, at a sooner date?


https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/584703-judge-sets-july-trial-date-in-bannon-case

[Nikki28]

89. My point exactly

You know my posting from this board. I may not come here often because the news always goes against Dems..But I watch Rachael and this is where my questions comes from if you must know. I come and drop in here and there. I try to stay away from politics, but listening to Rachael and her feelings and her worry has me worried. Maybe you should go back and read my threads here before you start accusing me of anything. I am just here trying to give my opinion in my frustration. I am not interested in anything but the voting rights act passed, and packing the courts, as well as my party being a little more touches than playing nice because it is not working anymore. I am about to give it all up. We only have a few months with this Jan6 and nothing is getting done by this JD when it comes to getting the big dogs. If the traitors does take over the Government next year,you will feel what went wrong.

I won't be thinking it, because I would be like many who already see the coup as just dress rehearsal. Also the state house throwing out votes. I don't think this would be anything the Q people would be here with a red sign blinking. So I wish you would respect other people view who belong to this board just as you. I may not come a lot, but I lurk and this is why I was not even going to give my opinion because it would be blow back or accusing me of crap I know nothing about. I am just a concerted out of my head of our democracy about to go up in smoke. I am not bashing anyone, I am just scared of what I see. If I come here, I need someone to kind of talk me off the ledge, but if I keep getting crazy rants about my place here, like I don't belong, then I will just unsubscribe and be done.Thank you for the ones who does know me and not accuse me of all these accusations that has no truth in them.This is not a joke, this ism our country we are losing. Am I scared! He!! yeah.

[Gaugamela]

113. Agreed. There are many here who think any criticism of Dem policy means you're

taking sides with Republicans. I appreciate your OP, as do many others. I responded above because I didn’t care for the smug patronizing tone of his post.

[brooklynite]

108. So you think that the status of criminal investigations should be a matter of public record?

I'm sure the prospective Defendants and their lawyers would appreciate that.

[Gaugamela]

114. Read the post again. I didn't say that. Don't try to shove things in my mouth.

[PortTack]

47. This

[reACTIONary]

57. +100 nt

[SayItLoud]

72. All valid points. Thank you. Here's a valid point too:

Individual1 . Individual1 's co conspirator got 3 years. Individual1 TFG hasn't been indicted. I am frustrated by the pace of the DOJ
and the investigations but I don't know what they have don't have or plan to do so I internalize my frustration.

[BlackSkimmer]

78. And who are you? Someone with a lot of posts on a discussion board?

This poster’s opinion is just as valid as yours.

[XanaDUer2]

93. +1000 nt

[BlackSkimmer]

100. It annoys me when some act like they're somehow better than someone else because of their

posting history. That’s just so ridiculous imo.

[XanaDUer2]

101. Me too. We've all been low posters

At one time. I thought there was a rule about calling out low posters, but I could be wrong.

[beaglelover]

5. He sued the state of Texass yesterday. Not exactly nothing.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

33. Ah but he didn't ship all the former Trump officials to Gitmo without a trial

So therefore he's not doing anything.

[Phoenix61]

38. +1,000 nt

[hadEnuf]

45. That should prevent the next coup attempt

[FreepFryer]

6. "I don't think Pete or Kamala will be accepted by all" ...mkay. Welcome to DU (Nt)

[malaise]

7. WE who?

Go MG! Lock them up! Make the case tighter than the jeans of my youth!

[BigmanPigman]

9. Many, many high profile Dems are agreeing with you.

This low profile Dem does too.

[Paladin]

12. As do I.

Pick up the tempo, Mr. Garland.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

31. You want the Democrats to act like Trump?

Wow.

[reACTIONary]

59. +10 nt

[Gaugamela]

10. To quote Lincoln: "If General McClellan does not want to use the army,

I would like to borrow it for a time.”

[msfiddlestix]

25. Righteous quote and on point.

[leftstreet]

11. I don't understand any of this n/t

[AZSkiffyGeek]

35. It's just a "Democrat" advocating tyranny to get Republicans nt

[reACTIONary]

56. +10 nt

[AZSkiffyGeek]

15. So basically you want Democrats to be authoritarians like Republicans

Get their talking points from Republicans and promote disgraced leaders like Republicans.

Sounds like a great idea! How about we organize a protest at the Capitol. We could wave flags, march around, maybe break into some offices and steal computers. Heck, we could even take a shit on Pelosi's desk.

I mean, since you want us to act like Trump.

[NurseJackie]

16. Yawn.

[Skittles]

22. do you think he's doing the job or nothing needs to be done

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just curious

[NurseJackie]

41. His job does not (and should not) require him to make public every time he farts.

I trust that he's doing his job well and properly WITHOUT needing to see him tweet every time he has a meeting, or sends a memo, or reads a report, or consults with attorneys. Some jobs don't need THAT much transparency and some jobs should NOT have that much transparency or hourly-updates. It's just ridiculous for anyone to expect it and to assume he's incompetent (or dishonest) because they're not getting their Twitter "fix" and "instant gratification" to relieve their impatience.

[reACTIONary]

61. +100 nt

[llashram]

69. exactly

[Skittles]

76. I find the frustration completely understandable

after Fitmas and Mueller, confidence that these corrupt bastards will ever be held accountable has been extremely eroded

[NurseJackie]

95. Perhaps. But not the response to one's frustration.

There's really no good purpose served when anyone had a temper tantrum that involves smearing or denigrating anyone in Biden's administration.

[Skittles]

104. yeah we will see

I am cautiously optimistic.

[NurseJackie]

106. All this shitting on the Biden administration serves no good purpose.

I am cautiously optimistic.

I'm respectfully optimistic and they should be honored for their service, not continually slammed and denigrated with accusations of being incompetent, lazy, corrupt, etc. Things like that are offensive because they're also an undeserved indictment of Joe Biden's judgement. Y'all need to stop.

[Skittles]

109. Y'all?

as in who? I have done no such thing.

DONE HERE

[NurseJackie]

118. Those who do...

... and those who make excuses for, or provide cover for. It's all so unnecessary and unproductive and serves no good purpose.

[Lucky Luciano]

68. I already promised the poster you replied to and her cohorts that...

….I will owe all of them a Coke if anybody important pays a big price for the coup attempt.

I doubt I will be buying any soda for the foreseeable future.

[NurseJackie]

94. Ho-hum.

[Lucky Luciano]

115. Ok...but I will be absolutely thrilled to be wrong, eat crow, and buy those sodas!

[brooklynite]

17. You've contacted President Biden about your concerns?

Or is angry blogging sufficient?

[Fullduplexxx]

27. Yea because that will produce results

[AZSkiffyGeek]

37. So you haven't

Just skipping right to shredding the Constitution.

[58Sunliner]

19. I agree. This is a dangerous situation.

[Cracklin Charlie]

21. Joe Biden will follow the law.

That’s the way it should be. It’s not about being nice, it’s about following the rule of law. Without it, we’re no better than Trump.

Would you want the criminals to get off on a technicality? Everything must be done according to law, or they will skate.

[Rebl2]

44. What you said👍

[erronis]

49. Actually, it's not the current POTUS following the law. It's the DOJ doing its job.

In normal and ideal situations, the POTUS does not tell the DOJ how to proceed.

This was totally subterfuged by the prior guy. (And Nixon and Reagan and Bush).

And this is what repuglicons and some commentors want Biden to do - tell the DOJ how to act.

[reACTIONary]

64. +10 nt

[Tribetime]

79. Things have to be done by a certain time or democracy is dead

[mcar]

24. So nice that random internet posters

are so knowledgeable about politics, policy, governance and the DOJ.

[Tribetime]

80. Adam Schiff think so also I guess he's random

[mcar]

84. Oh? Adam Schiff thinks

we need a Bill Barr as AG

Do what Trump would do.Threat them and pull those people who Trump put in FBI out. Congress should impeach those judges who are put in by Trump

Also find a good nominee who can run in 24, because it has nothing to do with Biden, but I honestly do not think he will run.I don't think Pete or Kamala will be accepted by all. We need someone like Newsome or who has balls like Cuomo,who is not afraid to stand up to these traitors.

Adam Schiff thinks these things? Really? Please link to where he's said anything like this.

[Tribetime]

103. Sorry for the gloom-and-doom I just think this country is basically over

If Republicans take back at the house maybe I'm wrong but that's where my mind is right now

[mcar]

105. Maybe we should all be working to elect Democrats

rather than being negative on websites. I truly believe it depresses the Democratic vote. "Why should I bother voting? This country is over."

[George II]

102. I recommend that you reread what Adam Schiff said in its entirety and in its context.

[usaf-vet]

29. If the Democrats FAIL to bring TFG and congressional leaders to JUSTICE how would we.....

... NOT be complicit if (when) a second attempted coup is made?

Cross-posted from earlier

[SledDriver]

48. We are guaranteed another physical assault on the government

now that it’s clear there were no consequences for the first one.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

30. Damn, I hate troll season.

[NewHendoLib]

32. When we go high...

Our legs get busted

We don't play this game well at all.

[Demsrule86]

39. It is not your call nor mine...proving conspiracy is tough...against Trump, I don't they will be

able to get a conviction. It would be awful to have him acquitted. I think we put everything ....all Trump's dirty deeds out there...and hope it makes a difference to the voters. Personally, I do not believe we will be able to convict Trump...there will always be a Trumper on the jury.

[DENVERPOPS]

91. I think you are right on target.

I think both sides know that bringing charges is one thing, but having a trial without an acquittal is another.
Look no further than Trump's two impeachments.........

There is not a chance in hell that any courts, at any level, can seat a jury without at least one Republican Trump Humper on it, and both sides know it....How many trials are we having for the insurrectionists???????? Or for that matter any of the Trump Cabinet or Administration?????????

I certainly do not envy Biden, or any member of his cabinet or administration......he was handed a Conflagration...........

[Phoenix61]

40. What exactly do you want the judges impeached for? nt

[reACTIONary]

67. And who exactly would impeach them?

[ShazzieB]

85. Seriously.

There's actually no law that says a federal judge can be impeached on the grounds that the guy who appointed them is a sh!thead.

[bucolic_frolic]

42. AG Garland has been in Washington for decades

He knows how power works in that town. He knows the law having seen hundreds upon hundreds of cases. He knows the people. He was a judge, he knows what will fly. He knows a lot about DOJ, and its administration. He's not a hard-charging prosecutor like you see on TV, who have spent their careers in one niche role.

We don't need nuclear cases. We need a handful of pinpoint perfect legal cases that get the job done. I share the idea that it's not going fast enough. Congress dilly-dalllied too. But who exactly could make all the parts move faster?

[yaesu]

43. I think its too late to trade him in now, the choice should have been made last January

so I guess we should give him support, wish for the best knowing that the JD can only do so much & what they can do may no be enough to stop the criminal GOP fascists. My biggest concern is things only congress can fix.

[Beastly Boy]

46. Bill Barr may be available.

He was strong enough to ignore his job description.

[Hortensis]

112. Bingo. Barr-type "strong" appeals to authoritarians of all types.

For me the yearning got really old long ago for our own "Barr" who'd smash through the constraints of the law -- but legally!, "lock 'em all up" -- but legally!, and make us all safe -- legally enough as long as it's us on top.

[Snackshack]

50. Cannot agree more...

The GOP is burning down the structure of a Democratic government based on law and order and the AG + Dem leadership appear just fine standing back and watching it happen. President Biden needs to make some cabinet adjustments ASAP.

[Mr. Ected]

51. The process won't be the process when the Fascists replace it with their brand of tyranny

But hey, while we still have a democracy, let's keep going through the motions and enjoy those wheels grinding slowly.

[marble falls]

52. As long as he has Joe Biden's confidence, I have every confidence in Merrit Garland.

[NurseJackie]

53. Agreed. In a way, every "anti-Garland" post is also anti-Biden...

... in that they're second-guessing Biden and expressing their distrust of his judgement.

[marble falls]

54. I thought I was one of the few that got that. Thanks!

[ShazzieB]

86. I never thought about it that way, but it's absolutely true!

[reACTIONary]

70. +10 nt

[Demsrule86]

74. Well said.

[Evolve Dammit]

55. Bannon's hearing is re-scheduled until next July. July. It's becoming a bad joke.

[childfreebychoice]

58. Joe will be too old to run. After more than 40 yrs in gov

He needs to enjoy retirement. Harris is not a strong candidate, IMHO. I am really liking newsom, though. That said, we don't know what is going on behind closed doors, at doj

[tritsofme]

62. Sorry folks, but we need stronger threads. These are terrible, just being as honest as can be.

[reACTIONary]

66. +10 nt

[MadameButterfly]

63. Cuomo? Really?

If your solution is Cuomo, I don't think you're paying attention. He just claimed defeat from the jaws of victory. The women were just a symptom of a bigger problem. He was a lousy manager and listened to his ego instead of the experts. Talk to someone who has worked with him before you start promoting him for president.

[Ferrets are Cool]

65. I agree 100%

I will believe it when I see it. I have lost all hope for any convictions of any kind.

[Fiendish Thingy]

71. Head over to emptywheel.net and educate yourself

Lots of excellent reporting and analysis at emptywheel of the minutia regarding the January 6 committee investigation and various DOJ prosecutions and investigations.

Here’s a good place to start:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/12/03/ten-things-tv-lawyers-can-do-rather-than-whinging-about-merrick-garland/

If you take the time to educate yourself, you will see how complex it is to bring a successful prosecution that reaches the top tier of the Trump administration. You will also realize that lack of information about DOJ investigations is not evidence that no investigations are taking place.

It took nine months to indict George Papadapolous for making false statements.

(As this appears to be a hit and run OP with no further engagement by the author, hopefully others will find emptywheel to be a valuable resource)

[traitorsgalore]

75. Not a Trump-like AG, an AG that actually prosecutes traitors

The Georgia phone call, the 1/6 attempt to stop an election, the numerous attempted deals with foreign powers to rig elections and fabricate "evidence: all the evidence is there and just being sat on.

WHY is all that evidence not being used to prosecute traitors and specifically Trump? It's either incompetence or complicity and they both reek of corruption. The kind of corruption that exists in a country without a functional system of justice.

There's no valid reason to wait to prosecute traitors to the U.S., none.

[Pepsidog]

81. I agree totally. Garland, like Biden is a nice guy. We need someone like Schiff, Raskin or Hillary.

[greatauntoftriplets]

82. Andrew Cuomo?

He has enough legal problems of his own. He's currently facing a misdemeanor forcible touching charge.

The "Whitehorse"???

[traitorsgalore]

87. The OP was just throwing out some ideas, you got a better one?

Don't chew the OP to pieces, at least they're trying. I've got one, Glenn Kirschner:

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/12/04/former-federal-prosecutor-kirschner-guarantees-trump-prosecution-on-evidence-available.html

[Nikki28]

92. Thank you so much

I never thought as a Dem to be so rejected as I do when I come here. I guess I may be better off finding another safe haven to express my fears. It is always like this when I come here. I take a break from time to time because of all that is going on. I have depression problems and this kind of blowback that does not make it better. FYI I never bashed Biden or want him like Trump, or I would not have voted for them. I am saying my feelings of where this country seems to be with age,race,and gay bashing by the religeuos right that will not vote for either of them.I would vote for them if they run because I am a Democrat.I also do not know what the DOG is up too. I just have a problem for putting all this on congress if they have no special prosecutor when they will make people testify. I feel DOG should be going after top dogs, follow the money,because these thugs were only going by the crap they were hearing. I wish DOG would get some RICO folks in and more help. All you have to do is watch Rachael and if you don't feel her fear, you missed her point.I read the new books out about this coup and take over going on. How all the news media and Michael Flynn brother and many other departments are still there under Trump. Thank you and God bless you for the ones who had my back. Have a blessed Christmas and please pray for our country,I know I am. I am done with this. You can call me all the kinds of lies you won't. I just won't be responding. Thank you to the ones who see where I am coming from and realize I am not ill feeling towards our leaders of the Democratic party. Thank what you want. I said my truth in my opinion,and leaving it there.

[traitorsgalore]

119. Take care and remember, some people just need to vent, don't take it personally

I get criticized when I post ideas about what needs to be done too. I'm a lifetime dem that thinks towards the future so I'm always thinking about possible future scenarios. People jump to all kinds of conclusions, none of which I had in mind.

Don't sweat it, stay healthy.

[questionseverything]

121. Put the people that are mean on ignore...you will enjoy du more

I agree with the sentiment of a lot of what you said, I am afraid we are going to “ look forward “ , which means we are screwed

[Orange Buffoon]

98. I got a better one. Her name is Sally Yates.

[Peregrine Took]

99. Agreed. OP stepped on too many sensitive toes. . n/t

[Poiuyt]

88. I think Garland is better suited to be a Supreme Court justice than AG

I don't want to see Biden turn to Trump's style of thuggery, but We are on a very short timetable and Garland doesn't seem to have any sense of urgency about this.

I'm an old man and have lived through the Cuban Missile crisis and Watergate, but I have never feared for the future of our country until now.

[Ohio Joe]

90. "why can't Biden do like Trump"

"Do what Trump would do"

Really? Become criminals because that fuckin guy is a criminal? Become a magat because they are?

No thanks.

[George II]

96. Has anyone here who is bashin....um, criticizing Attorney General Garland for inaction thought.....

...to go to the Department of Justice website to see just what they ARE doing?

Might be helpful.

[634-5789]

97. AMEN!

Time is of the essence!

[Texaswitchy]

107. We are not living in normal times.

We came close to loosing the country on 1 / 6.

We will not be so lucky next time.

I think it will happen in all fifty states.

No more nice guys.

[Polybius]

120. Preet Bharara or Doug Jones should have been picked

This pick only happened because Biden felt bad for what Garland went though.