Fresno homeowner saddened as video shows small child stealing package from doorstep

[Demovictory9]

A Fresno homeowner’s security cameras captured video showing a small child taking a package from the porch of the home. Videos sent to Storyful, a news and video service, by homeowner Sierra Zamora show the November 26, 2021, incident. The footage can be seen above. “It was just sad to see,” Zamora told Fresno ABC30.

One angle shows the child, who appears to be wearing pajamas, approaching the home. The child looks back toward the street, where an adult person is standing, before picking up a package and walking away

A second camera angle shows a vehicle stopped on the street outside the home and an adult person walking on the sidewalk. A child exits the vehicle and approaches the adult person before walking up the front walk of the home.

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article256402101.html#storylink=cpy

[DFW]

1. This happens all over Europe

Some Gypsy families—ones that reject integration—train their small kids to be professional beggars and pickpockets. The girls usually end up as the beggars and the boys as pickpockets. They are trained to work in teams or individually. Since children are untouchable under the legal systems of most European countries, and most countries that are their legal residences are EU members (e.g. Slovakia, Romania, Hungary), they have complete immunity. It’s a vicious cycle, because the more they train their kids to be thieves, they more the western countries hate them. The more they are hated, the more isolated their communities become. The more isolated their communities become, the more they feel that theft is the only way to get by. And so it continues. In some instances in the States, my colleagues there have told me about finding and busting bands of professional thieves who are Romanian gypsies, so it would appear that their model has found new fertile ground.

[obamanut2012]

2. With respect, "gypsy" is a slur

And the Roma themselves consider it a slur. I am actually surprised to see you use it, and it saddens me if you've picked up the pretty appalling and rabid anti-Roma bigotry rife in much of Europe.

[MrsCoffee]

9. +1

[Throck]

10. Gypsy has been my label all my life. My family bloodline.

A slur for you, a badge of honor for me. The family has never taken offense. Some weird strong family bonds but it's inspired 4 generations to grow in America.

The only thief in the bunch is my cousin who works for the IRS as we tease her.

We all have thick skins.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

17. My very good fiends adopted a child from Russia.

The woman in the orphanage told her “he is gypsy, when he gets older he will only want to dance and play cards”

He had a bit of a rough start (due to separation and isolation) but he has grown to be an absolutely amazingly great 21 year old kid. We (his Guncles) are so proud of him. Oh yeah, he is a professional dancer now in a big city ballet. His image is plastered on billboards in the city!

[robbob]

18. How's his poker game?

😂

[secondwind]

5. I saw this with my own eyes in Italy, a young girl crying in the

street, being detained by the police. She was caught stealing.

The mother and a baby could be seen a couple of blocks away, watching. I was told that the girl was not crying because of the police.

She was crying because she was caught and she would be severely punished. It was heartbreaking.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Some White families - ones that reject integration - train their small kids to become white collar

Some White families - ones that reject integration - train their small kids to become white collar criminals.

Should we call them some name like "Whities?" So we can all prejudge Whities?

[hlthe2b]

12. While i get your point, Roma and other so-called "Travelers" are white.

Just sayin...

[DFW]

13. You can call them whatever you want, especially if the term is centuries old

As for prejudging--if I see families doing this to their children, I condemn them no matter where they come from. If Bernie Madoff trained his kids from birth to do what he did, I would condemn that in equal terms. No child should be conditioned to that kind of life, especially before they are old enough to make their own choice. My wife was a social worker here. She saw it in every version and degree of severity.

An old friend of ours in Germany, born in 1935, was conditioned by his elders to be in the Hitler youth. He was ten when the war ended, and knew nothing else. He freely admits he had been completely brainwashed, and was happy to have been liberated from slavery to that mentality. Raising children to that kind of life seems to be child slavery to me as well. They are not free to choose, and are exploited. I take it your years of experience here in Central Europe must have formed your opinion as well, right? Maybe you'd prefer a term like "nomadic tribes of northern India in Europe?" You can call them "Notrionindie" for short, I suppose, if it is PC enough.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. The Roma do not wish to be called Gypsy. Similarly African Americans do not wish to be called

... the n-word.

Perhaps we can honor both requests.

The word "Gypsy" comes from the place name Egypt. Calling the Roma "gypsies" is like calling indigenous people Indians. They don't like that either, and prefer to be called First Nations or Indigenous.

Nowhere in this article does the word "Notrionindie" appear:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Romani_people#Gypsy_and_gipsy

However—according to the discourse of those who study the Romani people—the word, while sometimes positively embraced by Romani persons, is also sometimes rejected by other Romani persons as offensive due to it being tainted by its use as a racial slur and a pejorative connotation implying illegality and irregularity,[21][22][23][24][25][26][27] and some modern dictionaries either recommend avoiding use of the word gypsy entirely or give it a negative or warning label.[28][29][30][31][32][33]

[hlthe2b]

11. Undoubtedly many Roma families assimilate in US, but the organized theft among some continues

In Atlanta, for instance, two hospitals had to assign security to respond to alerts pre-COVID when families previously identified piled into the ER and basically walked out with everything expensive not nailed down, including EKG machines, crash carts and the like. There is an organization around some of these groups. Hospitals hate to become involved in such bad press, so they frequently try to absorb the losses which transfer to all of us.

Toronto broke up a major crime ring among these groups in 2012:
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/09/06/Major-gypsy-crime-ring-broken-near-Toronto/96111346938789/

Similarly in the US:
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/shoplifting-ring-stole-3m-u-s-article-1.1292679

I do feel bad for those who truly have become model US citizens (and undoubtedly many have), but you are right that those traditions from Europe have persisted for some in the US and Canada. To the extent they suffer unfairly from those stereotypes is because some do persist. When stereotypes are based on repeated truthful episodes, they tend to stick. Just as the conflation of "organized crime" with the Italian mafia in the minds of many Americans. Is that because Americans hate Italians because they are Italian or because there was some historical truth that incited the connection? I think most would argue the latter.

[DFW]

14. I would assume the majority have tried to assimilate

Here, they know that if they don't, the path to jobs and acceptance is closed. But not all seek jobs or acceptance. They only seek to continue their lives according to the old traditions. If this produces no clash with the host country, there is no problem. If it DOES produce a clash with the host country, there is a problem. It is the indoctrination and exploitation of the children that I find the most obscene. But then, if you take my wife's profession into account, and the decades of work with the downtrodden of German society, I got to hear first-hand reports all the time, and what these children are programmed to do is unconscionable. It is no accident that after she retired, my wife became an active member of the local "Kinderschutzbund," sort of a German version of the "save the children" organization.

[Skittles]

3. someone knows who that kid is, and therefore her parents

they need to be investigated for child abuse

[MyOwnPeace]

6. Some kinda' parents, huh?

Maybe soon they'll be buying her a gun (for 'protection,' of course).

[Skittles]

7. that poor little thing

she doesn't stand a chance with assholes like that for parents

[dalton99a]

19. +1. Looks like on the job training

It is child abuse

[XanaDUer2]

16. That was pathetic nt