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Stinky The Clown

(67,814 posts)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 08:09 PM Dec 2021

So Meadows will be charged with contempt. And then another run-out-the-clock tactic

I think the committee should start using inherent contempt.

I actually don't care if the committee's right to use is solid or ill-defined. Do it now and fight later.

And while we're at it, let's go back after Bannon.

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So Meadows will be charged with contempt. And then another run-out-the-clock tactic (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Dec 2021 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #1
Bannon's contempt trial is scheduled to begin jury selection in July Effete Snob Dec 2021 #3
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ol'stinky Bannon has more coming besides contempt charges ! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #10
Meadows is unlikely to be charged with contempt Effete Snob Dec 2021 #2
"But he has not done that." Septua Dec 2021 #17
Yeah, Meadows and Bannon will skate right into the poor house. I'm sure their lawyers abqtommy Dec 2021 #5
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Meadows rso Dec 2021 #8
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I doubt it AverageOldGuy Dec 2021 #12
Meadows rso Dec 2021 #15
I have been . . . AverageOldGuy Dec 2021 #11
Then if the DOJ is unwilling to fight for justice - then why have a DOJ? Dan Dec 2021 #13
Ya, it's pretty clear that they are hoping to run the clock out cstanleytech Dec 2021 #14
Meadows rso Dec 2021 #16
I got the impression from someone on the committee, forget who, that they don't really Vinca Dec 2021 #18

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Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
3. Bannon's contempt trial is scheduled to begin jury selection in July
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 08:23 PM
Dec 2021

The US had requested April.

Full analysis with links to source documents here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216123690

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monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
10. ol'stinky Bannon has more coming besides contempt charges !
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 10:51 PM
Dec 2021

the games are just warming up !! we all get to watch after first of yr. !

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
2. Meadows is unlikely to be charged with contempt
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 08:22 PM
Dec 2021

Meadows has, as is his right, filed a lawsuit challenging the subpoena.

"Contempt" would consist of blowing it off outright. But he has not done that.

Septua

(2,256 posts)
17. "But he has not done that."
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 12:39 AM
Dec 2021

But he's pretty close to blowing it off? I heard Adam Schiff say he can't sue Congress based, maybe, on the Speech or Debate clause. I don't have a clue what that means but it's in the link.

One excerpt: Under that ruling, courts generally do not hear motions to quash congressional subpoenas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. Yeah, Meadows and Bannon will skate right into the poor house. I'm sure their lawyers
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 08:43 PM
Dec 2021

don't come cheap! snark alert on: Oh, that's right, TFG is gonna pay their legal bills!
alert off

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rso

(2,273 posts)
8. Meadows
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 09:16 PM
Dec 2021

If the GQP wins the House and then disbands the 1/6 Committee, all those indicted by that time will be prosecuted by the DOJ, which will be under democratic control until at least Jan. 2025.

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rso

(2,273 posts)
15. Meadows
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 11:31 PM
Dec 2021

It would not be more of a fight than indicting and prosecuting while the 1/6 Committee is in existence. Once indicted, these people are in the jurisdiction of the DOJ, not Congress.

AverageOldGuy

(1,536 posts)
11. I have been . . .
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 10:54 PM
Dec 2021

. . . a bit reluctant to charge AG Merrick Garland with foot-dragging, but, now I think it's obvious he has no stomach for holding Trump and his lieutenants responsible for anything.

1. The fact that DOJ took two weeks to respond to Bannon's refusal to obey a subpoena and now the delay likely will be repeated.
2. The fact that the terrorists themselves who were calling for the killing of the Vice President and Speaker of the House are being slapped on the wrists.

I hope I'm wrong but I think the fix is in -- Republicans will take back the House in 2022 and terminate the Jan 6 Committee and Garland does not want to get caught having supported the Committee.

Dan

(3,576 posts)
13. Then if the DOJ is unwilling to fight for justice - then why have a DOJ?
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 11:06 PM
Dec 2021

Just dismantle the whole DOJ and start building the internment/concentration camps that the GOP is dreaming of for the Democratic leadership, non-Christian’s, POC, non-straight and the wrong thinking Whites.

I’m sure that the MAGA group are willing to be the new style executioners.

And, those that are on the fence with doing the right thing, will shape their heads and say, what is happening shouldn’t be happening.

cstanleytech

(26,304 posts)
14. Ya, it's pretty clear that they are hoping to run the clock out
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 11:11 PM
Dec 2021

with the hope that the Republicans efforts to seize control of the House via the gerrymandering and voting suppression laws bears fruit.
Then the new House leadership will bury any investigation into any crime committed by any Republican like usual.

rso

(2,273 posts)
16. Meadows
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 11:35 PM
Dec 2021

Except that prosecutions are the responsibility of DOJ, not Congress, and no matter what happens in 2022, democrats are in still charge of DOJ at least until Jan. 2025.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
18. I got the impression from someone on the committee, forget who, that they don't really
Thu Dec 9, 2021, 08:48 AM
Dec 2021

need him to make the case. Apparently, Meadows gave them thousands of documents they requested and they have supporting evidence from other witnesses. IMO, Meadows was doing a book-selling stunt the whole time he was pretending to be cooperating. His sudden refusal might be more of the stunt, but he'll have to start shelling out mega lawyer fees to continue it.

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