Remind me why anyone thought cultivating support from Joe Rogan and his listeners was a good idea?

[brooklynite]

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[Fiendish Thingy]

1. Because he has tens of millions of listeners who hang on his every word.

He has a bigger audience than Rachel and Tucker combined.

[blm]

2. Two words for ya, Rogan: Prove it.

Show the evidence YOU saw that convinced you of this.

[MineralMan]

3. Who thought that? Someone here on DU?

I don't think so. It's not Joe Rogan and those who follow him we need to cultivate. Not in any way. It is people who voted for Republicans because "I always voter Republican" we need to cultivate. We don't need them all. We just need some of them to see the truth and change their mindless habit of voting for Republicans.

Fuck Joe Rogan and his brainless audience!

[PortTack]

5. This!

[Pantagruel]

7. Cultivate the "I always vote Republican" ?

I think they're the wrong target. That kind of stubborn stupidity is usually only overcome by death. BTW-with 90% of CV-19 deaths being unvaccinated- nature is culling that herd.
I think our recruitment efforts should focus on Latinos and POC. Stacy Abrams' model worked in Ga., should work elsewhere. Registration drives and GOTV efforts in the off white communities should be intensified.

[MineralMan]

9. Do you know what percentage of people who catch COVID-19 die?

1 or 2 percent. So, those people are not being culled.

Do you know what percentage of Republicans are fully vaccinated? A majority are.

Of course we should cultivate POC, Latinos, young people, and others. But, there's no reason not to cultivate Republicans in general as well. Maybe we can get 5% of them to vote for a Democrat. Do you not see the potential of that making a difference?

Think, please.

[Pantagruel]

15. "Of course we should cultivate POC, Latinos, young people, and others."

That's where I focus ad spending. Racists are not turnable. Business people looking for tax cuts unlikely. Abortion foes rigidly anti-liberal as well as homophobes.
Not much left of Trump voters, I'd leave them to TLP type influencers. Depending on Roe outcome, maybe a portion of women GOP voters.

[Hortensis]

12. :) I don't think so either. Alarming the people who listen to him

who would never have been drawn in by the "he tells it like it is!" wisdom of Greg Gutfield, Ben Shapiro or others openly and consistently aligned right instead of sneakily.

Agree we need to draw people in danger of unknowingly empowering the RW coup d'etat by embracing anti-establishment wedging against the Democratic Party. I'd broaden that, though, to speaking to people across the spectrum who are in danger of falling down this (to them) appealing rabbit hole.

Both trump and the LW populist leader whipped the anti-establishment message hard, hard, hard to devastating benefit to one of them.

[MineralMan]

13. I'm pretty much skeptical of all political extremes.

Both ignore reality in favor of ideology, and with similar ill effects, it seems to me.

The far right appeals to those with baser instincts, from racists and misogynists to just plain stupid folks. The far left appeals to "thinkers," who also regularly fail to identify and deal with reality.

I'm for good-hearted, smart people being in charge, to tell the truth. All others, in my opinion, are dangerous to society.

[Hortensis]

16. +1000. The closer to extremes one gets, the more serious dishonesty

and self deception, even irrational thinking, are required to support those ideas and movements. Generally speaking, if it's true it's accepted by the mainstream and thus by definition rejected by those who despise mainstream thinking.

Btw, we now know that those with extremist tendencies, whether left, right, or middle, have a great deal in common, the more extremist the more like each other they become. The real but few differences in ideology between far left and right are less than those between them and the mainstreams they despise.

And of course there's the huge increase to many millions of formerly fairly rational people being "radicalized" after being hunted down across the spectrum and targeted for mindfucking. By professionals whose goal is to turn well meaning people into political weapons.

They've learned that the anti-establishment tendencies so many see as sophisticated cynicism, and are all over many posts in this forum, into a weapon of mass democracy destruction.

Scary times.

[MineralMan]

17. Scary times indeed.

[betsuni]

18. +1

[Haggard Celine]

4. Any shred of credibility he might have been clinging to is gone now.

Anyone who believes that shit is probably lost.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

6. If it was fake, wouldn't there have been a 'purpose'? So what was that purpose, Joe?

Nobody got violent or anything ... was the purpose just 'make a gathering that's pathetic and small'?

C'mon, dude. That's a fucking stupid conspiracy theory, even by Joe Rogan standards.

[Progressive Jones]

8. Clearly, Rogan is a bigger moron than already suspected. The Millennial neckbeards where I

work worship this mope. He's their Supreme Podcast Overlord.

[radius777]

10. Rogan is an alt-right meathead, Howard Stern

schooled him the other day about vaccines.

Dems do have to compete in the 'raunch' media sphere better, which many Americans of all colors are influenced by. In the 90's alot of these types identified with Bill Clinton due to his own personal history and being demonized by the religious right. Howard Stern, Larry Flynt, Hugh Hefner and others were big Clinton defenders. We should have alliances with some of these types who are clearly pro-Dem, so they can compete for that space and prevent the RW from having free rein there.

[betsuni]

11. Because Joe's audience, the white working class, was supposed to join the revolution.

Same old mistake, thinking they vote the way they do (or don't vote) because of economic anxiety and Democrats ignoring them or whatever instead of the real reason.