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Botany

(70,589 posts)
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 11:37 AM Dec 2021

Why is Jeff Bezos launching his vanity space flight today when one his Amazon facilities just got ..

... flattened in Illinois killing and or injuring some of the people who have helped make him so successful?

Couldn't he have held off for a few days?

Is it just me? The timing seems a little gouache.

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Why is Jeff Bezos launching his vanity space flight today when one his Amazon facilities just got .. (Original Post) Botany Dec 2021 OP
Because he's clueless and totally self absorbed? marble falls Dec 2021 #1
Or maybe Google "launch window". 11 Bravo Dec 2021 #20
I think it spent about ten minutes in space. I imagine for something like a vanitly trip ... marble falls Dec 2021 #27
Lol. Let's hear what the "launch window" is for a ten minute sub orbital flight? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2021 #28
I don't know. Do you? 11 Bravo Dec 2021 #29
Yep, there will never be another one. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2021 #31
His money he made. Can build a rocket shop and fly it if he wants. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #2
I'd probably be a little more attentive to optics. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #48
Fuck the optics I would say, and have another toke. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #52
Yeah, I know you would. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #55
There are hundreds of people involved in a rocket launch, as well as official certifications ... eppur_se_muova Dec 2021 #3
Bezos has his own rocket ship? Many are jealous I think...me included. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #4
I'm not jealous. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2021 #32
NASA would then be a vanity project of the American taxpayer? Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #34
Are you high? ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2021 #44
Is that space math? Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #51
I could sleep pretty good with 200 billion Polybius Dec 2021 #43
Spend 12 hours a day running a shelter for 10 years. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2021 #45
I'd donate a ton to charity and friends and strangers alike Polybius Dec 2021 #46
My SiL works for NASA and i don't begin to understand all the things that go into a space shot I ... Botany Dec 2021 #5
Should the Washington Post shut down as well ? Bezos owns that too. eppur_se_muova Dec 2021 #6
The Washington Post fulfills an actual function. Crunchy Frog Dec 2021 #50
Think of it this way. It costs a SH*T ton of money to scrub a launch. RandomNumbers Dec 2021 #15
Should Amazon suspend all deliveries today? onenote Dec 2021 #7
Lol, well played. nt BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #10
yes Botany Dec 2021 #11
LOL (nt) ARandomPerson Dec 2021 #18
And tomorrow... lame54 Dec 2021 #22
No, if I had the $$ I'd buy a seat. edbermac Dec 2021 #8
Yes. Thats my point in this thread. Be thrilled by the space flight advancements, not Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #53
Because life goes on. calguy Dec 2021 #9
Right? Love this image btw... msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #12
The one thing I love about DU is the smart people here. Botany Dec 2021 #14
agree.. msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #19
What's the environmental damage from these damn vanity space flights? Owl Dec 2021 #13
Yeah, I much more agree with this question about the launch. RandomNumbers Dec 2021 #16
I know and to top it off 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2021 #17
When I watched the coverage of that flight today - what did it last, 2 or 3 minutes - all I could Vinca Dec 2021 #21
Bezos could pay more in Taxes and still do the Space thing JI7 Dec 2021 #49
Funny cause I thought what a magnificent machine. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #54
Bezos sucks, typical greedy dork. radius777 Dec 2021 #23
Jeff does pay his workers well and has provided thousands and thousands of jobs Botany Dec 2021 #24
He's a monopolist oligarch and traitor to America. /nt radius777 Dec 2021 #25
Well he did start "his kind of skipping the brick and motor store biz" and that biz pays ... Botany Dec 2021 #26
No "Jeff" doesn't. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2021 #33
Well Aristotle Onassis had a luxury ship VGNonly Dec 2021 #30
whale foreskins? iemanja Dec 2021 #36
Yes... believe it or not VGNonly Dec 2021 #38
that's awful iemanja Dec 2021 #39
Lifestyles with the rich VGNonly Dec 2021 #40
I don't want to ever meet those people iemanja Dec 2021 #41
He is a total jerk but he is no longer CEO. He stepped down to focus on his rocket. Nt helpisontheway Dec 2021 #35
Thanx Botany Dec 2021 #37
It would have just been performative if he had SYFROYH Dec 2021 #42
Collateral damage when you're a multi-billionaire. jalan48 Dec 2021 #47

marble falls

(57,275 posts)
27. I think it spent about ten minutes in space. I imagine for something like a vanitly trip ...
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:56 PM
Dec 2021

... into space there would have to be a multitude of huge windows. This was much more about public relations than rocket science. Or the other thing.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,344 posts)
28. Lol. Let's hear what the "launch window" is for a ten minute sub orbital flight?
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 05:40 PM
Dec 2021

Does Venus have to align perfectly for something like this?

eppur_se_muova

(36,299 posts)
3. There are hundreds of people involved in a rocket launch, as well as official certifications ...
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 11:41 AM
Dec 2021

one does not change such things in a hurry, unless there is a danger to craft or crew.

When the boss is out of town, he delegates authority to seconds-in-command. That is what they are paid for.

There's plenty of reasons to criticize Bezos, this just isn't one of them.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
32. I'm not jealous.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:50 PM
Dec 2021

I couldn't sleep at night knowing I made a fortune exploiting people and using that money to do nothing but vanity projects.

Polybius

(15,497 posts)
43. I could sleep pretty good with 200 billion
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:14 AM
Dec 2021

I'd have a beautiful girlfriend, fast cars, a mansion, and an arcade and computer room in the west wing. Oh I'd sleep like a baby.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
45. Spend 12 hours a day running a shelter for 10 years.
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 10:32 AM
Dec 2021

Your perspective might change when your begging for donations of clean socks.

Botany

(70,589 posts)
5. My SiL works for NASA and i don't begin to understand all the things that go into a space shot I ...
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 11:48 AM
Dec 2021

... do know they had plenty of time to give a stand down order. The plant in Illinois was hit last night
@ midnight (?) they could have given it a day or so. It was after all an exercise in vanity.

eppur_se_muova

(36,299 posts)
6. Should the Washington Post shut down as well ? Bezos owns that too.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 12:00 PM
Dec 2021

Just because you might be able to shut down doesn't mean you should. It would wipe out the work a lot of people have already done.

RandomNumbers

(17,608 posts)
15. Think of it this way. It costs a SH*T ton of money to scrub a launch.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:08 PM
Dec 2021

Wouldn't it be better to spend that money helping recover from the tornados? Than just throw it down the toilet?

Not saying Bezos would put said $$$ in the right place, but it seems dumb to scrub a launch just for symbolism. eppur_se_muova is correct - a lot goes into planning it.

edbermac

(15,947 posts)
8. No, if I had the $$ I'd buy a seat.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 12:37 PM
Dec 2021

Not a fan of Bezos or Musk trying to duck out of paying their fair share of taxes but I am enthralled by the idea of space travel. I was intrigued by Alan Shepard’s daughter making that flight, sort of carrying on the family tradition.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
53. Yes. Thats my point in this thread. Be thrilled by the space flight advancements, not
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 07:28 AM
Dec 2021

Sorrowful.

To a person we would all pay for a space flight seat, if possible.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
12. Right? Love this image btw...
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 01:51 PM
Dec 2021

terrible optics afaic, the timing is simply terrible. but you know betcha he has a sort of "that's life" ...you win some, you lose some" kind of attitude.





Botany

(70,589 posts)
14. The one thing I love about DU is the smart people here.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:02 PM
Dec 2021

And yes, my life has been and still is a bit quixotic. Maybe I shouldn't have posted but with 10 minutes
I was seeing video of the flatted Amazon BLDG in IL and then the lift off Bezos' vanity shot. It just
struck me as strange.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
19. agree..
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 03:31 PM
Dec 2021

I know of the event because I've read the headlines, however I haven't yet checked out the details on the cause of the building collapse.

that actually seems strange, to me too. Ar some point I'll read the details regarding cause. Storm related?

I feel like my reactive inclinations go to ct stuff you see in the movies or read in Tom Clancy books, entertaining curious possibilities like sabotage. Betcha lots of competitors were toasting champagne and doing high fives... you know, clash of the titans and all that.

Anyway, I think your post reflects and understandable view, regardless.





RandomNumbers

(17,608 posts)
16. Yeah, I much more agree with this question about the launch.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:15 PM
Dec 2021

If it was worth doing in the first place, it shouldn't be scrubbed just because of bad optics, as I just posted above that's like throwing money down the drain that could be used to help people harmed in the catastrophe.

But your question is excellent. I do not know. I do believe Bezos thinks there's value in doing it, or he wouldn't be doing it. Not just value for himself (although that definitely matters to him), but I do think he is trying to maintain a perceived status as a "visionary" and do another big thing that will actually bring value to humankind in the long run. Except, I personally think he is mistaken in that judgement and rather suffering from tunnel-vision due to where he is placed in society these days. There is a cost to getting too wealthy, even if the cost is not noticeable to the wealthy person themselves.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
17. I know and to top it off
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:18 PM
Dec 2021

Amazon is delivering my packages today! I am outraged! There should be at least a 6 months cease of all Amazon activities. Heartless bastard. No let me go check and see where that pour over coffee maker is.. Ahh yeah in the package room.

Vinca

(50,310 posts)
21. When I watched the coverage of that flight today - what did it last, 2 or 3 minutes - all I could
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:20 PM
Dec 2021

think of were the taxes we mere mortals pay so Bezos can enjoy his hobby tax free.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
23. Bezos sucks, typical greedy dork.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:25 PM
Dec 2021

Just blast him into space ('prime delivery' ha) and don't let him come back until he pays taxes and pays workers a fair wage.

Botany

(70,589 posts)
26. Well he did start "his kind of skipping the brick and motor store biz" and that biz pays ...
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:44 PM
Dec 2021

... 1,298,000 full- and part-time employees in America living wages and benefits too.
I would hardly call him a traitor.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
33. No "Jeff" doesn't.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:52 PM
Dec 2021

His employees live in poverty and piss in bottles. During rough times I worked at a warehouse for a year. You're making things up. Do you defend the Walton family, too?

VGNonly

(7,511 posts)
30. Well Aristotle Onassis had a luxury ship
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 05:55 PM
Dec 2021

with barstools upholstered from whale foreskins. He had the $$$$, so why not?

iemanja

(53,072 posts)
41. I don't want to ever meet those people
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 11:17 PM
Dec 2021

Elephant feet. SMH. Such magnificent creatures. Whales are too.

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