When was the last time a party's ticket carried NEITHER the home state of its nominee or VP pick?

[Texas Lawyer]

Massachusetts - President Obama is up at least 15% (per right-leaning Rasmussen), and Romney/Ryan has NEVER lead in the polling average, and NYT's Nate Silver has it as 100% likely to go for the President.

Wisconsin - President Obama is up 6% according to the NBC/WSJ poll, and Romney/Ryan has NEVER lead in the polling average, and NYT's Nate Silver has it as 82.2% likely to go for the President.

When was the last time either party's ticket lost both its presidential nominee's home state and its VP nominee's home state?

[valerief]

1. Probably before electronic voting machines in which a candidate's family has investments. nt

[sadbear]

2. Did we win North Carolina in 2000?

[Texas Lawyer]

7. We won Connecticut in 2000, but a party's ticket LOST EVERY TIME the nominee and VP pick

failed to win their home states.

[jeff47]

13. Gore's from TN, Lieberman's from CT. (nt)

[sadbear]

15. Thanks for the reminder!

Duh! I must have subconsciously blocked that guy from my memory. (This is embarrassing. I was thinking Gore ran with Edwards.)

[LTR]

3. Dukakis/Bentsen in '88?

Other than that, the McGovern/Shriver ticket would be it.

[sadbear]

4. We won Massachusetts in 1988.

[StevieM]

5. I believe it was 1956 when Adlai Stevenson and Estes Kefauver lost their home states of

Illinois and Tennessee, respectively

[Texas Lawyer]

8. If a ticket cannot win the nominees home states, it seems destined to fail nationally

[treestar]

6. I don't think state pride is that big of a deal any more

Perhaps at one time there was a feeling of wow, someone from our state could be President, and that might trump political opinions.

Delaware is small though and rarely never gets a national candidate, so there could be a little in play here, but it would still be blue.

[bettyellen]

9. I don't think state pride matters if they did a shitty job, but the thing is....

The nominees should have a damned impressive record, and have wide support because of that.
It's not like they're putting up their best and brightest these days.

[jeff47]

14. It's more about exposure than state pride.

Generally, politicians have held office for a long time in their home state before hitting the national stage. Thus, their home state has a very good idea of how that politician would govern.

Losing your home state is a bad sign, in that it shows the people who know you best don't want you to win.

[Texas Lawyer]

16. I agree. If those who know them best, like them least, the rest of us ought to be more skeptical

[treestar]

17. Especially if you didn't get a second term

A governor should be good enough that the people of the state wanted him to have another term. I understand this is not the case with Rmoney.

[MarianJack]

10. How about in 1972, when...

...McGovern/Shriver lost both South Dakotaand Maryland?

PEACE!

[Texas Lawyer]

11. This seems to be yet one more data point supporting the conclusion that, if the nominees cannot win

their home states, the ticket cannot win nationally.

[MarianJack]

18. Very unfortunately, McGovern/Shriver didn't,...

...and we got more of tricky dickie.

PEACE!

[StevieM]

12. Yep, you're right. I had thought Shriver was from Massachussetts. (eom)

[MarianJack]

19. Possibly becauseof the Kennedy connection?

PEACE!

[aletier_v]

20. I dont know when but DOWN GOES ROMNEY!!!! HA!