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Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 09:52 PM Dec 2021

Is America experiencing mass psychosis?





https://www.alternet.org/2021/12/america-mass-psychosis/

In 2020, 34 percent of Republicans and independents who lean to the right surveyed by Pew Research Center agreed that it was "probably" or "definitely true" that powerful people intentionally planned the COVID-19 outbreak. Eighteen percent of Democrats and left-leaners agreed, too. That same year, results from a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey found that approximately three-quarters of Republicans did not trust the 2020 presidential election results.

It should go without saying that these kinds of beliefs are fantasy, not rooted in any rational fact or evidence. Hence, someone observing from afar the rise in conspiratorial beliefs and pseudoscience might characterize a vast swath of the American public as delusional. From the COVID-truther movement to people believing the 2020 presidential election was rigged, it appears that the body politic is — to put it mildly — no longer on the same page.

Given the perturbed psychological state of so many Americans, it is worth asking if something is happening — psychologically speaking — that is causing many Americans to live in very different realities.

Psychologists say yes; and, moreover, that what is happening was actually predicted long ago by Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung. Indeed, Jung once wrote that the demise of society wouldn't be a physical threat, but instead mass delusion — a collective psychosis of sorts.

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Is America experiencing mass psychosis? (Original Post) Nevilledog Dec 2021 OP
I believe so. cilla4progress Dec 2021 #1
In a word, YES bottomofthehill Dec 2021 #2
Yes. elleng Dec 2021 #3
I think climate change is affecting us Wicked Blue Dec 2021 #4
I have anticipated for years cilla4progress Dec 2021 #31
Seems probably true for Disaffected Dec 2021 #5
FoxNews, QUANON, Right Wing Podcasters Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #6
the party of Limbaugh is now headless and they don't know what to think or do without him certainot Dec 2021 #30
Maybe true for people who follow news and politics leftstreet Dec 2021 #7
They get it on Facebook Nevilledog Dec 2021 #8
Right. And lots of FB people just read and roll their eyes leftstreet Dec 2021 #10
Not America, but 20% of Americans, the Trumpanzees, yes. Hassler Dec 2021 #9
When you're nodding off a decades long bender on meth/the oxyies ... Hugin Dec 2021 #11
If you pine for the "good old days" that never really existed.... OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2021 #12
That is the most sensible explanation I've read so far... Hugin Dec 2021 #14
Yes Boomerproud Dec 2021 #13
No, just seeing the results of our education system being gutted over the decades. GoCubsGo Dec 2021 #15
If not a mass psychosis, which i believe we are, then definitely a mass "nervous breakdown". smirkymonkey Dec 2021 #16
Psyops. Midnight Writer Dec 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #18
+1,000,000 oasis Dec 2021 #19
Agreed. ⬆️⬆️ Baked Potato Dec 2021 #20
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2021 #33
Carl Jung was a genius SheltieLover Dec 2021 #21
Levada Center polling in the '90s and up to the present shows this kind of pattern. Igel Dec 2021 #22
The common folk always say they know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. AZLD4Candidate Dec 2021 #23
it's not just the US, it's the whole world Hamlette Dec 2021 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2021 #35
It's not psychosis. The voices in their heads are... AdamGG Dec 2021 #25
I agree with your theory, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #26
This may be the scriptural take. How many different petri dishes... stone, sand, brambles, Karadeniz Dec 2021 #27
I do not believe that powerful people planned wnylib Dec 2021 #28
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2021 #29
We aren't, but they are. Mickju Dec 2021 #32
Two of them. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #34

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
31. I have anticipated for years
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:43 AM
Dec 2021

that the collapse of our ecosystem is and would cause insanity, essentially.

You especially see it expressed through greed.

Like these billionaires and their personal spaceships.

Disaffected

(4,557 posts)
5. Seems probably true for
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:00 PM
Dec 2021

most definitions of "mass" and "psychosis".

Probably something to do with Darwin's theory.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
30. the party of Limbaugh is now headless and they don't know what to think or do without him
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:36 AM
Dec 2021

it's not fox or podcasts - they used to rely on and parrot Limbaugh, and read his scripts, as have been modern republican politicians or staffs who want scripts to win elections.

they're not 'conspiracies' if they're repeated all over the country on 1500 radio stations, endorsed by the local businesses and university and pro sports, without challenge from the left while we listen to music

with his 3 hrs Limbaugh set the tone on 600 of the loudest radio stations on the planet. whoever fed him could control buzz from 1500 radio stations. for thirty fucking years while democrats ignored it that buzz moved the country 15 pts right and excused the corporate corruption and bigotry racism and ignorance and sexism. Limbaugh's genius was in rationalizing the fascism and stupidity on the right and spinning daily events so that dems were always bad, it was always our fault somehow.

now their leader is gone and he's not there to excuse and explain trumps crimes. the GOP is walking off a plank and someone tell that motherfucker Manchin he's got no leverage, there's no way GOP can cheat enough to win senate or congress, and with cruz and Hawley and a bunch of congress getting subpoenas, and global warming triggers going off, his future is fucked.

someone tell the manchin asshole if he delays global warming action he's going to be blamed for a lot of death and destruction resulting from delaying it for even another year

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
10. Right. And lots of FB people just read and roll their eyes
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:08 PM
Dec 2021

Everyone has the weirdo or two who follows this stuff like a fundamentalist

Most people don't

The media's been trying to convince us we're a "divided country" for some time now. But I don't think it reflects real world concerns and conversations

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
11. When you're nodding off a decades long bender on meth/the oxyies ...
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:12 PM
Dec 2021

I guarantee seeing strange things. Roll in news as entertainment and it's a given.

So, what's for dinner? I'm starving.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
12. If you pine for the "good old days" that never really existed....
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:17 PM
Dec 2021

reality today must be very unbearable. My take is most of the people who vote Republican are voting against today's reality...with no reasoned thought as to why they think this way.

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
14. That is the most sensible explanation I've read so far...
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:21 PM
Dec 2021

Because, it includes why I seem to be immune.

I don't recall any 'good old days'.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
15. No, just seeing the results of our education system being gutted over the decades.
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:27 PM
Dec 2021

This is what happens when large portions of the population don't learn critical thinking skills and basic science. "Idiocracy" was a documentary, not a comedy.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. If not a mass psychosis, which i believe we are, then definitely a mass "nervous breakdown".
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:28 PM
Dec 2021

Which is not really a a psychological term that is used anymore, but we are seriously losing it - so whatever that is called, that is what is happening to us.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Igel

(35,320 posts)
22. Levada Center polling in the '90s and up to the present shows this kind of pattern.
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 10:58 PM
Dec 2021

It's not mass psychosis. It's distrust in the sources of authority and information.

As one title looking at the issue put it, "Nothing is true and everything is possible." All that's left for ascertaining truth is cognitive bias. Go with your gut.

Thing is, if you *do* believe in "mainstream sources" of authority and information, then the others are obviously mentally ill. Hence it's easy to think of it as mental illness, e.g., a psychosis. Empathy would stop that diagnosis. But empathy, like tolerance, is for one's in-group and has come close to meaning "appreciation".

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
24. it's not just the US, it's the whole world
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 11:24 PM
Dec 2021

anti vaxxers and anti maskers in Europe are just as crazy as here? What's up with that?

Response to Hamlette (Reply #24)

AdamGG

(1,292 posts)
25. It's not psychosis. The voices in their heads are...
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 11:35 PM
Dec 2021

the surgically planned, systematic, coordinated bombardment of "non-mainstream" media, designed to elicit precisely this reaction.

It's Goebbels on a global scale.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
26. I agree with your theory,
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 11:56 PM
Dec 2021

except the MSM is now a part of the problem. 99% of the people on DU don't know the difference between a fence and a wall.

The #1 thing I learned from college was to not blindly believe what I saw on TV or read in the newspaper but to think for myself, to use critical thinking.

Yes I read Ekhart Tolle's books about how our thoughts aren't who we are. Our thoughts are our ego trying to run our lives. We are the entity listening to our thoughts.

Karadeniz

(22,537 posts)
27. This may be the scriptural take. How many different petri dishes... stone, sand, brambles,
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:13 AM
Dec 2021

Fertile soil... does scripture use to illustrate people's receptivity, recognition of soul values? I think four. Three examples don't have what it takes. So, Jesus's opinion might be that 75% of a population is stuck in brain/ego survival mode dictating their understanding and behavior. Ego survival mode doesn't care about truthfulness. It'll lie to itself to stay in its comfort zone. Ego survival mode demands it consider itself superior to others, finding no benefit to equal rights or justice. Ego survival mode loves competition, even if brute force or cheating is necessary to win. Jesus doesn't appear optimistic about introducing soul values to these types. Humility, lovingkindness, respect for others, generosity towards others, mental flexibility simply can't take root in a petri dish in which values of the Good are seen in much the same way as an invading virus.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
28. I do not believe that powerful people planned
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:19 AM
Dec 2021

the covid pandemic.

But consider this. Those who actually read the right wing think tank paper, PNAC (Project for a New American Century) from the early 2000s, might remember that it called for biogical warfare capable of targeting specific ethnic and racial groups. Such a project would require experimentation on living subjects. For security reasons, it would be kept secret.

So the idea of an intentional pandemic by powerful people is not as far fetched as it sounds. However, I do not believe that that is what is happening with covid. I am not a scientist in any field, let alone in biology. But I did have enough high school and college biology to understand that a viral pandemic can develop on its own without human creation or manipulation involved. It has happened in the past with viruses and bacteria - Bubonic Plague, smallpox, 1918 flu pandemic, 1957-58 flu pandemic. Before measles and chicken pox became known as "childhood diseases," that modt chikdren survived, they were initially much more deadly among Europeans of all ages. When they were spread by Europeans to the Americas and to Pacific islands, they were extremely lethal to the indigenous people of all ages who had not bern exposed before.

So, no, covid, an offspring of the original SARS virus, is not a plot by powerful people. But such fears are not too far fetched, either.

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