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gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 11:37 PM Dec 2021

Trump in serious trouble

Let me see if I got this right.

Letitia James is going after Trump in civil court that could cost the Trump Org. hundreds of millions of dollars.

I just heard that Trump's main banker from Deutche bank is talking to Cy Vance's criminal prosecutors. To make matters worse, it was reported on Lawrence O'Donnell that Trump's accountant has been given immunity by Cy Vance and is testifying before a grand jury. Remember now, Vance has the tougher job because he has to prove criminal intent, well... guess who can cough up criminal intent, yup, the accountant. Mr. accountant did Trump know that lying about this property was illegal? Mr. accountant, did Donald tell you to commit a crime or you would be fired? Something to that effect.

Not a good couple of days for Donald Trump. I predicted 3 years ago that Donald would have a nervous breakdown, conditions are right.

Oh and Liz Cheney has a hold of his throat.

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Trump in serious trouble (Original Post) gab13by13 Dec 2021 OP
I figured that James' decision to stay in her job meant spooky3 Dec 2021 #1
right through to a seat in the House or Senate. More power to her too. Thomas Hurt Dec 2021 #5
Going to see lots of crying about how multigraincracker Dec 2021 #2
Oh dear I forgot, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #3
He must be out of lower court appeals by now. SergeStorms Dec 2021 #14
That always makes me wonder.. if true "What's up IRS?" Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #23
He had Mnuchin to cover his ass... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #32
Yes. True. But he used audit excuse long before. Guess Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #34
Love this Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #4
Until I see charges brought, until I see him in court, until there is something where he is held for Javaman Dec 2021 #6
His middle name is "Delay". BigmanPigman Dec 2021 #7
Trust me, I know where you are coming from. gab13by13 Dec 2021 #9
I'd settle right now for seeing him testify UNDER OATH Skittles Dec 2021 #12
It wouldn't matter--he lies with impunity Poiuyt Dec 2021 #21
I hate to say it but I agree bottomofthehill Dec 2021 #26
+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2021 #29
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2021 #27
I think Liz found the little mushroom cap...... lastlib Dec 2021 #8
OMG, I loved listening to her the past 2 days. gab13by13 Dec 2021 #10
Zackly! cilla4progress Dec 2021 #13
The Republicans pissed her off when they stripped her of her leadership position calguy Dec 2021 #16
I suspect she'll get re-elected. It's Wyoming, she's a Cheney, spooky3 Dec 2021 #18
The Repubs that are trashing her DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #20
Liz Cheney has EVERY chance of being reelected Divebus Dec 2021 #25
I see Liz Cheney as part of the Cheney family, mortal enemies of Trumps. yardwork Dec 2021 #35
she's biting at TFG heel's ! driving the fat slob crazy & he can't do a damn thing ! monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #17
Don't underestimate his capacity for self-delusion gratuitous Dec 2021 #11
Agree. But don't you feel the tiniest little crack? Almost invisible Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #24
Merry Fitzmas! n/t Strelnikov_ Dec 2021 #15
I keep expecting him to have that coronary he's been eating and drugging his way towards. Ford_Prefect Dec 2021 #19
By accountant, you're referring to the person in his accounting firm and not Poiuyt Dec 2021 #22
I despise Trump. He's evil, etc. Jarqui Dec 2021 #28
I fear this is correct dclarston13 Dec 2021 #36
Smart guys can't be controlled so easily. nt Jarqui Dec 2021 #39
K & R malaise Dec 2021 #30
Until I see him in jail or dead Meowmee Dec 2021 #31
Whatever it is, somehow he'll weasel out of it. Always has, always will. The biggest Vinca Dec 2021 #33
Trump's accountant given immunity. I can't seem to find anything about that Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #37
Found it in seconds: Kingofalldems Dec 2021 #40
Well thank you, except for snark :( Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #41
I remember when I was under the miss-impression these were under investigation early in TFG's term msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #38

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
1. I figured that James' decision to stay in her job meant
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 11:41 PM
Dec 2021

That she has the goods on Trump and wants to see it through.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
3. Oh dear I forgot,
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 11:43 PM
Dec 2021

one of Trump's appointed judges just ruled that Congress can see his taxes. Time for another appeal Donnie.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
14. He must be out of lower court appeals by now.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:42 AM
Dec 2021

The SC is up next, but I doubt they'll see it. They'll throw it back down to the lower courts, but they've been pretty well exhausted.

Time to man up and give them the tax returns, asshole. Or are they still being audited, 10 years later?

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
32. He had Mnuchin to cover his ass...
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 07:48 AM
Dec 2021

for four years, but he's run out of weak-kneed subordinates to push around. You only get those if you're a crooked president, and although he remains crooked, he's no longer president. 😁

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
34. Yes. True. But he used audit excuse long before. Guess
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:24 AM
Dec 2021

It's all confidential if you are under an audit. And if you pay additional taxes owed unless you don't (levy).

I do remember Michael Cohen saying he never ever once saw a notice about an audit of any kind from the IRS.

If IRS never audited or never found anything, why not.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
6. Until I see charges brought, until I see him in court, until there is something where he is held for
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:02 AM
Dec 2021

something, I will believe it when I see it.

I refuse to go down that road and get burned as the many many many many times we all have been burned in the past.

we shall see.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
9. Trust me, I know where you are coming from.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:16 AM
Dec 2021

I have been screaming that DOJ needs to get involved that the select committee doesn't have time to nail Trump.

But

The states have stepped up. Fulton County, Ga. DA is investigating Trump's attempt to overturn their election. I wish that DOJ would also be involved, but..

Hearing tonight that Trump's accountant has been given immunity and is testifying before a grand jury is concrete action. Hearing that in the same case that Trump's banker from Deutche bank where Trump got millions of dollars in suspicious loans is talking to prosecutors is concrete action.

The thing about Trump that pisses us off is that he has committed so many obvious crimes and he is never held accountable. The other thing is because he has committed so many crimes maybe some prosecutors are going to do something about some of them?

bottomofthehill

(8,334 posts)
26. I hate to say it but I agree
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 02:52 AM
Dec 2021

When they clamp the cuffs on and walk him out of the courthouse to the prison van, that’s when I will cheer.

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
8. I think Liz found the little mushroom cap......
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:12 AM
Dec 2021

or something attached to it? (I hope she's using gloves.........)

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
10. OMG, I loved listening to her the past 2 days.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:20 AM
Dec 2021

She isn't going after Meadows, she is putting Meadows on her hook. She is going after the big fish.

When she repeated 2 days in a row the exact crime that Trump committed, the crime that he can be indicted on, she was talking to Merrick Garland.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
13. Zackly!
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:39 AM
Dec 2021

I'm sure the Committee worked out this strategy: just keep sickin' Liz on tfg.

Disciplined and effective. They must be so proud to have this opportunity to step into history!

calguy

(5,315 posts)
16. The Republicans pissed her off when they stripped her of her leadership position
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:45 AM
Dec 2021

She most likely has no chance to get re-elected next November.
She's pissed, she's out for blood, and she's dangerous as hell to any republican who had anything to do with this.

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
18. I suspect she'll get re-elected. It's Wyoming, she's a Cheney,
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:51 AM
Dec 2021

and that family has a lot of traditional Republican donors behind them.

Divebus

(4 posts)
25. Liz Cheney has EVERY chance of being reelected
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:55 AM
Dec 2021

All the people who DON'T breathe through their mouths (mostly Democrats) should vote Liz Cheney back into office. If only both of the Democrats in Wyoming could agree on that, it could be a landslide!

/s

I just see Liz as one of the few honest Republicans, but forget talk about her becoming a Democrat or even working with centrist Democrats. Based on her voting record, she would be worse than another Manchin or Sinema as a hard line right winger. I still appreciate her honesty and dedication to Country.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
35. I see Liz Cheney as part of the Cheney family, mortal enemies of Trumps.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:27 AM
Dec 2021

The Bush/Cheney crime family doesn't get along with the Trump crime family. They're competitors.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Don't underestimate his capacity for self-delusion
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:21 AM
Dec 2021

It is bothersome, though, how many people will fall in line behind those delusions. You know they're not getting paid or profiting off of it. But they stand behind that dumbass for all they're worth.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. Agree. But don't you feel the tiniest little crack? Almost invisible
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:38 AM
Dec 2021

But there. And you know, cracks only get bigger

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
19. I keep expecting him to have that coronary he's been eating and drugging his way towards.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:54 AM
Dec 2021

Or possibly the aneurism that's residing in his brain will let go.

I don't as a practice wish bad things of this kind to happen. I really do want the MAGATS to see their God-King answering the judge and prosecutors. I want him to live a long uncomfortable life behind bars where they don't play golf or tennis and his roommate is 6'5" and 285Lbs. I also want the entire dark money connection exposed and ripped apart, along with 35 or so prominent GOP members and a number of very nasty Christo- Fascist plutocrats arrested and tried for treason. I also want to see the RGA and RAGA arrested and busted for violating the Civil Rights Act, along with egregious corruption and bribery.

That will do for a start.

Poiuyt

(18,125 posts)
22. By accountant, you're referring to the person in his accounting firm and not
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:31 AM
Dec 2021

Allen Weisselberg, correct?

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
28. I despise Trump. He's evil, etc.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 06:55 AM
Dec 2021

But he could not do the things he has done without the help of the Republican party

I think the GOP will toss him before 2024.
Like us, they probably can't stand him either.
He was a means for them to cling to power.

I'd love to see Trump prosecuted and lose all his money and go to jail.

But it is his enablers who remain that trouble me.
They'll replace Trump with Ron DeSantis or someone and carry on stealing elections and looting the wealth of the country.

The enablers are the ones who need to face justice.

dclarston13

(412 posts)
36. I fear this is correct
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:28 AM
Dec 2021

Except that I think De Santis will not be on the 2024 ticket, someone a bit smarter will be pushed forward.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
33. Whatever it is, somehow he'll weasel out of it. Always has, always will. The biggest
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:10 AM
Dec 2021

inconvenience for him is coming up with new ways to bilk the cult so his legal bills get paid.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
37. Trump's accountant given immunity. I can't seem to find anything about that
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:48 AM
Dec 2021

Not even on "the last word" Twitter account. What did he say about it? Why isn't it huge news all over? Was it some lower level accountant?

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
38. I remember when I was under the miss-impression these were under investigation early in TFG's term
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:56 AM
Dec 2021

It was an any minute kind of thing, let me think.... um four or five years ago?

I remember what we learned then, but gosh nothing happened.

But now things are different, and he really is in trouble? Well, I sure effin' hope so gab13by13!!!!

I'm tuning in, xfingers hoping this is the real deal now.








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