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Joinfortmill

(14,432 posts)
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:35 AM Dec 2021

Remember when VP Harris was in Europe meeting with Heads of State? No, here's why.

https://www.damemagazine.com/2021/11/16/legacy-media-is-undermining-vp-kamala-harris/

You can be forgiven if you missed the announcement, because headlines, and indeed big news stories about it only appeared in France. In fact, you wouldn’t be the only American to have been oblivious to the fact that VP Harris was even in France, let alone what she was doing there. or what she did while she was there. Outside of Twitter, there was almost no reportage of the trip, which was meant to mend fences with France following the Australian submarine deal debacle earlier this year, as well as showcase VP Harris and allow her to hone her foreign policy bona fides for a possible future presidential run, as she has dealt mostly with domestic policy throughout her career.

VP Harris met with global leaders, including outgoing German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Italian President Mario Draghi. French President Emmanuel Macron was charmed by Harris—the two had so much to discuss and got on so well that their respective aides had to get them to wrap up the visit.
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Remember when VP Harris was in Europe meeting with Heads of State? No, here's why. (Original Post) Joinfortmill Dec 2021 OP
I remember . .. Lovie777 Dec 2021 #1
Huh... I thought she was just there to buy an expensive cooking pot. dixiechiken1 Dec 2021 #2
this Kali Dec 2021 #23
Not being on Twitter, I did NOT know this. PatrickforB Dec 2021 #3
I didn't either Mary in S. Carolina Dec 2021 #9
The press covered it. OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2021 #4
Of course the reichwingnspin machine did not cover this. After all, such a trip does niyad Dec 2021 #5
People were tweeting about it FelineOverlord Dec 2021 #6
That's nice, but personally not think tweeters is news reporting. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #14
In case you're not aware, all the major news outlets and many smaller ones have Twitter accounts. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #20
Except that the media didn't tweet about Harris's trip - other than complaining about a purchase. yardwork Dec 2021 #21
The Majors may have, don't know, but the majors don't care to report news anymore much. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2021 #24
Actually, it is easy to find reputable news and join in the discussion. AllyCat Dec 2021 #28
I'm a big Kamala fan. panader0 Dec 2021 #7
Doing a good job Maine Abu El Banat Dec 2021 #8
So true Rebl2 Dec 2021 #17
Grown ups are back. Botany Dec 2021 #10
They aren't hiding it anymore either. ...nt 2naSalit Dec 2021 #11
My French friends asked if I was there to help out DFW Dec 2021 #12
+10 nt reACTIONary Dec 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Maine Abu El Banat Dec 2021 #13
I confess I don't recall reading about it. hay rick Dec 2021 #15
I remember Rebl2 Dec 2021 #16
But but but her frivolous copper pot! Hekate Dec 2021 #18
VP Harris had a very skimpy 4 years in national government, Hortensis Dec 2021 #19
A fact to always keep in mind about media: MSM believe their ignoring leaders' actions means ancianita Dec 2021 #22
VP Harris has a important role to play. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #25
K&R! dchill Dec 2021 #26
Speaking of Cookwaregate ... soldierant Dec 2021 #27
- Because she didn't mess up roscoeroscoe Dec 2021 #29

Lovie777

(12,278 posts)
1. I remember . ..
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:41 AM
Dec 2021

but alas the continued bashing of her and President Biden superseded any positive information.

PatrickforB

(14,577 posts)
3. Not being on Twitter, I did NOT know this.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:16 AM
Dec 2021

The general stuff I hear about Harris isn't all that good. But then, she is a woman of color...so that probably explains it. Racism AND sexism are alive and well. It is all ugly, and I will being sending emails to some of the news outlets I have email for and asking why the hell they did not report that.

niyad

(113,344 posts)
5. Of course the reichwingnspin machine did not cover this. After all, such a trip does
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:28 AM
Dec 2021

not fit with their ongoing HRC-honed attack on her. I only heard about it here on DU, and even here, I saw very little, except about the cooking pot.

ShazzieB

(16,426 posts)
20. In case you're not aware, all the major news outlets and many smaller ones have Twitter accounts.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:45 AM
Dec 2021

That includes every major TV network (cable and broadcast), major and local newspapers, news magazines, and news websites, all of which tweet breaking news stories and commentary with links to the full content on their websites. Individual reporters have their own Twitter accounts as well.

Of course it's not wise to believe everything posted by individuals at Twitter, but there 's plenty of "real" news there.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
21. Except that the media didn't tweet about Harris's trip - other than complaining about a purchase.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:52 AM
Dec 2021

The purchase itself was wise diplomacy. She bought a French cooking pot. The media spun it negatively.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
24. The Majors may have, don't know, but the majors don't care to report news anymore much.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:05 PM
Dec 2021

Unless ofc hey can mix in some propaganda and avert eyes from Sedition Day.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
10. Grown ups are back.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:52 AM
Dec 2021

"French President Emmanuel Macron was charmed by Harris—the two had so much to discuss and got on so well
that their respective aides had to get them to wrap up the visit."

DFW

(54,408 posts)
12. My French friends asked if I was there to help out
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:03 AM
Dec 2021

I'm in Paris usually once a week for work, for those who don't know.

i explained, by the way, that Macron was expected to be able to handle her on his own, and I only would be called in if he was having difficulty. Apparently he managed just fine on his own

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hay rick

(7,624 posts)
15. I confess I don't recall reading about it.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:22 AM
Dec 2021

And I skipped past the cookware stories as obvious smear framing so I didn't even realize she was in Paris, let alone why.

Rebl2

(13,523 posts)
16. I remember
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:23 AM
Dec 2021

she went. Don’t remember details though. Media was to busy with what was going on with Congress trying to get bills passed, the January 6 committee,etc.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. VP Harris had a very skimpy 4 years in national government,
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:33 AM
Dec 2021

as 1 senator among 100, not head of an important cabinet department, with 1 visit to the WH, before becoming VP to a president with 50 years in DC. Biden liked the potential he saw in her and is doing what he said he would: assigning her a portolio of important tasks that need to be tackled -- with the goal he didn't explicitly state of building her capabilities toward what they need to be.

Merely by being named VP, Harris became a historic figure, but it's worse than unrealistic to expect her to immediately become a historic VP, instead of supporting a historic presidential agenda. We know Biden chose her with the intention of having the kind of presidential relationship with his VP that Obama achieved with him. And she came in intending to fill that position.

The press want her to start running for president so they can make the worst of that. And her fans want that because they think she deserves the attention. If people remember back, though, Biden was not running for president during the Obama presidency. He was doing important work for the president.

Biden's right in giving her a portolio that'll help her in the growing she has to do. It's rah-rah to say she'll make a great president, but remember that during the 2020 primaries she hadn't even developed her own solid position on healthcare -- a top issue for most of the nation!, extremely surprising and an appalling jaw-dropper to me. No doubt she's been learning and developing ever since, but she has a long way to go before she emerges as the very strong, substantial, competent candidate for president we and the nation need her to be. Not appearance, substance.

In the meantime, I'd ignore the mean, critical press headlines. Most of their agendas not only have nothing to do with good government but are already actively working to defeat Democratic candidates in 2022 and 2024, absolutely specifically VP Harris. Don't buy their premises, ever! If they can, they'll defeat her before she declares for the primaries. The most honest thing about critical headlines is that the articles will deliver on their promise.

Fwiw, I'd look for articles that offer some insight into what's, you know, real and really happening. Unfortunately, ,any of the best are not free.

But also look for understanding the people involved. When you know the people, you understand what their goals must be in spite of critical lack of information and all the mental shrapnel and smoke and mirrors thrown up to deceive. Way too many people bought the premises long ago and have no idea who the names are. And many of Harris's fans will fall victim even while others are becoming interested in her.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
22. A fact to always keep in mind about media: MSM believe their ignoring leaders' actions means
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:32 PM
Dec 2021

they can get people to think there ARE NO ACTIONS, and therefore set up low numbers on job performance and approval polls. Which is what BOTH Biden and Harris are experiencing right now in spite of all they have done to restore this nation's domestic health and economy, and international standing.


We need to keep a running list of VP Harris' activities and attack major print and televised media who fail to cover her. We can depend on them to print all attacks against her by others, and never give her positive news coverage. This -- the anchor bias setup, along with other cognitive biases against her domestic and international work -- is the same long term tack that media took with Hillary Clinton.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
25. VP Harris has a important role to play.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 02:46 PM
Dec 2021

President Biden cannot be everywhere.

Since President Obama the role of VP has changed.

Also she could become the President very quickly if something was to happen.

The world's leaders need to know her.

Also I think the press is down playing her because she is a woman.

VP Harris deserves the respect due to her office

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