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malaise

(269,054 posts)
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:54 AM Dec 2021

So Hannity is screaming privacy

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahahhaha
https://deadline.com/2021/12/sean-hannity-text-to-mark-meadows-january-6th-liz-cheney-1234891301/
Sean Hannity And Laura Ingraham Address January 6th Texts To Mark Meadows, Attack Liz Cheney For Public Release Of Private Messages

Fox News hosts Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham addressed the release of text messages they sent to White House chief of staff Mark Meadows as the January 6th siege on the Capitol unfolded, in which they each urged him to get the president to speak out and get the rioters to stop.

Hannity insisted to viewers that he says “the same thing in private that I say to all of you,” after the release of the message. in which he wrote to Meadows, “Can he make a statement, ask people to leave the Capitol?”

On his show on Tuesday, Hannity said, “Surprise, surprise, surprise: I said to Mark Meadows the exact same thing I was saying live on the radio at that time and on TV that night on January 6th and well beyond January 6th. And by the way, where is the outrage in the media over my private text messages being released again publicly?Do we believe in privacy in this country? Apparently not.”

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So Hannity is screaming privacy (Original Post) malaise Dec 2021 OP
I've said it before, there goes Hannity's credibility underpants Dec 2021 #1
Nice Christmas present for the rest of us malaise Dec 2021 #3
Did he ever have credibility? MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2021 #6
Only among the incredibly credulous. wnylib Dec 2021 #32
Fox news doesn't need credibility. only anger. Kablooie Dec 2021 #39
you have to have an iq that matches your shoe size to think texts are private. mopinko Dec 2021 #2
THIS malaise Dec 2021 #4
Yeah, really. These are the people wnylib Dec 2021 #33
So, he's invented a privacy right to support sedition? lark Dec 2021 #5
It is time to destroy these hypocrites malaise Dec 2021 #7
!00% with you. lark Dec 2021 #8
Amen! wnylib Dec 2021 #34
It wasn't his email that was released SCantiGOP Dec 2021 #28
hey sean, your buddy meadows handed over your texts...Bwahahahahahahaaa spanone Dec 2021 #9
Too good malaise Dec 2021 #10
Exactly PatSeg Dec 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #11
They're always the victim Johonny Dec 2021 #12
Bingo. CaptainTruth Dec 2021 #22
If it's what Hannity says all the time, what's the beef? What one writes to a public ... marble falls Dec 2021 #13
There are FCC rules against distorting the news. But there are a couple of problems. LaMouffette Dec 2021 #14
Thanks for this malaise Dec 2021 #16
You're welcome! LaMouffette Dec 2021 #37
Chris Hayes does a pretty good job of debunking them. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #20
So the next time someone says they get their news from Faux we say, plimsoll Dec 2021 #26
So maybe we should just drop wnylib Dec 2021 #35
That's what I've always thought KS Toronado Dec 2021 #40
Since we can call them what we want to, wnylib Dec 2021 #46
Oops! Just checked on Snopes and the part about Fox changing its designation to "entertainment" is LaMouffette Dec 2021 #41
Airwaves vs cable, lot to unpack there. KS Toronado Dec 2021 #47
Good point. I think the scope of the FCC should be broadened to keep up with new technology. LaMouffette Dec 2021 #48
100% agree KS Toronado Dec 2021 #49
👆👆 crickets Dec 2021 #52
Excellent post. nt crickets Dec 2021 #51
All communications with WH staff is public record --- remember 'but her emails' JT45242 Dec 2021 #15
He's a hypocrite malaise Dec 2021 #18
The tape says otherwise, Sean. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #19
Dems needs ads to exposure Fux sheep to these tapes malaise Dec 2021 #21
Tell him he has no privacy for his next abortion, Captain Zero Dec 2021 #23
Let me check with Hillary on that one, Sean-boy... Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #24
Scammity's been on borrowed time, here's hoping he gets crushed under the weight of his BS bringthePaine Dec 2021 #25
I think Sean is more than a little worried that he will get sucked up in this investigation. patphil Dec 2021 #27
Dude, you chose to be a public figure NCDem47 Dec 2021 #29
I'm so old that I remember when he claimed multigraincracker Dec 2021 #30
Hey Sean, you know why we're able to read Elizabeth Holmes emails? NNadir Dec 2021 #31
You're not media, you're entertainment! ... aggiesal Dec 2021 #36
You have no expectation of privacy when you are involved in criminal activity Takket Dec 2021 #38
They just needed a day to come up with their coordinated talking points. Caliman73 Dec 2021 #42
Rs truly believe in privacy in this country KS Toronado Dec 2021 #43
friend of mine who is strong union democrat watchted him the other day AllaN01Bear Dec 2021 #44
Poor wittle Sean having a sad 😢 ybbor Dec 2021 #45
Newsflash to Manatee: Amy Coney Barrett and Co. don't believe in Hassler Dec 2021 #50
Conservatives: When you do it, it's a scandal. When I do it, it's an invasion of privacy AZLD4Candidate Dec 2021 #53
I detest their self-righteous hypocrisy malaise Dec 2021 #54

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
39. Fox news doesn't need credibility. only anger.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:34 PM
Dec 2021

They keep viewers by creating fury at everything.
Total hypocrisy is fine as long as viewers remain furious at everything happening in the country.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
2. you have to have an iq that matches your shoe size to think texts are private.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:57 AM
Dec 2021

esp to a public official. but i guess none of them remember their own witch hunts.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
33. Yeah, really. These are the people
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:58 AM
Dec 2021

who cheered the release of Hillary's e-mails.

How conveniently they forget.

lark

(23,105 posts)
5. So, he's invented a privacy right to support sedition?
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 09:59 AM
Dec 2021

Don't think so. He also doesn't believe in privacy either, being a big supporter of Texas actually controlling a woman's reproductive choices. He just thinks he's a white rich straight right winger so can do whatever he wants int he shadows - he thinks he's (and all straight white R males) above the law and wants us all to bow down to his expertise.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
7. It is time to destroy these hypocrites
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:01 AM
Dec 2021

once and for all - do not let up on this grand exposure of these scumbags

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
28. It wasn't his email that was released
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:43 AM
Dec 2021

It was from Meadows.
Yes, I expect that anything sitting in my computer has some degree of privacy. But if I send YOU an email, I don’t have any way to protect that communication if YOU decide to release it.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
17. Exactly
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:51 AM
Dec 2021

Of course, if it had been a Democratic Chief-of-Staff and an MSNBC host, he would have no problem with reporting on the texts.

Response to malaise (Original post)

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
13. If it's what Hannity says all the time, what's the beef? What one writes to a public ...
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:18 AM
Dec 2021

... official is not private, it's part of the record. It's not like Meadows is a lawyer, therapist or doctor.

LaMouffette

(2,036 posts)
14. There are FCC rules against distorting the news. But there are a couple of problems.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:24 AM
Dec 2021

1. The FCC won't take action unless complaints are filed against the broadcaster.

2. Fox News has changed its designation from a news network to an entertainment channel to avoid such pesky rules as not being able to distort the news.

I think Dems in Congress need to do some kind of legislation to redefine "broadcast" to include cable networks and internet news sites, and to redefine "news" to include any program that has the hallmarks of a news program (information presented as factual in a serious manner). They also need to give the FCC more power to shut down programming that distorts the news.

Since this proposal would be yet another monumental long-drawn-out battle in Congress, in the short term, I would like to see a new TV show along the lines of "Talk Soup" (remember "Talk Soup"?) that would air clips from Fox News and then mock the shit out of them.

Okay, back to work for me!

The FCC receives a wide variety of comments and complaints about the accuracy or bias of news networks, stations, reporters or commentators in how they cover – or sometimes opt not to cover – events. Other complaints concern the conduct of journalists in the gathering and reporting of news.

The FCC's authority to respond to these complaints is narrow in scope, and the agency is prohibited by law from engaging in censorship or infringing on First Amendment rights of the press. Moreover, the FCC cannot interfere with a broadcaster's selection and presentation of news or commentary.

What responsibilities do broadcasters have?

Broadcasters may not intentionally distort the news. The FCC states that "rigging or slanting the news is a most heinous act against the public interest."

What if I have comments or concerns about a specific news broadcast or commentary?

All comments and/or concerns about a specific news broadcast or commentary should be directed to the local station and network involved, so that the people responsible for making the programming decisions can become better informed about audience opinion.

What can the FCC do?

The FCC may act only when it has received documented evidence, such as testimony from persons who have direct personal knowledge of an intentional falsification of the news. Without such documented evidence, the FCC generally cannot intervene.


[link:https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/complaints-about-broadcast-journalism|

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
20. Chris Hayes does a pretty good job of debunking them.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:07 AM
Dec 2021

But the people who need to see it the most don’t watch Chris Hayes. And really, at this point, I’m beginning to wonder if the truth will ever be accepted, and what possibly could come out that would change people’s minds.

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
26. So the next time someone says they get their news from Faux we say,
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:20 AM
Dec 2021

"I prefer Disney, they have a better super hero line up."

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
35. So maybe we should just drop
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:10 PM
Dec 2021

the word "news" from their name and call them Fox Entertainment since that's what they say they are. They are like other Fox products, as fictitious as the Fox movies.

KS Toronado

(17,259 posts)
40. That's what I've always thought
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:36 PM
Dec 2021

they shouldn't be allowed to use the word "news" below the FQX logo. Making them use the word
entertainment would be icing on the cake since that's how they're registered.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
46. Since we can call them what we want to,
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:55 PM
Dec 2021

I opt for the more accurate Fox Entertainment. It removes the false pretense of being news.

LaMouffette

(2,036 posts)
41. Oops! Just checked on Snopes and the part about Fox changing its designation to "entertainment" is
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:40 PM
Dec 2021

false. I guess the FCC doesn't categorize them as news or entertainment. Shoulda checked!

Still. I think the FCC should be given power to regulate cable networks when it comes to networks disseminating false information.

A spokesperson for the FCC told us that, “We do not have any rules or licensing requirements in which a cable channel might categorize itself as news vs. entertainment.”

John Bergmayer, senior counsel at Public Knowledge, an intellectual property group based in Washington, D.C., talked to the New York Daily News in 2017 after the FCC received hundreds of complaints about another cable news channel, CNN. Bergmayer explained that because cable news channels are run by private providers, the FCC has no authority to control the programming:

The FCC regulates broadcast networks, since the airwaves are free and public. But cable channels, which rely on subscribers, viewers and advertisers, are beyond government control. Since cable runs through private providers, the FCC plays no role in issuing or revoking licenses, and it has no say on what the channels can air.

“The hook for (broadcast) content regulation … is the fact that broadcasters have government-issued licenses that allow them to use the airwaves, and that it’s freely available to anyone with a receiver,” said John Bergmayer, senior counsel at Public Knowledge, an intellectual property group based in Washington, D.C.

“This doesn’t apply to cable networks.”


[link:https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-news-entertainment-switch/|

KS Toronado

(17,259 posts)
47. Airwaves vs cable, lot to unpack there.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:12 PM
Dec 2021

Very few people get their nightly news via "rabbit ears", most smart phones use a combination of both.

LaMouffette

(2,036 posts)
48. Good point. I think the scope of the FCC should be broadened to keep up with new technology.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 01:40 PM
Dec 2021

including cable, the internet, and smartphones.

JT45242

(2,280 posts)
15. All communications with WH staff is public record --- remember 'but her emails'
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:46 AM
Dec 2021

After spending years smearing someone with ALL RECORDS of WH staff should be on official devices and saved so that they can be checked, you would think this asshat would have remembered that as WH Chief of Staff that stuff applied to Meadows.

Where is his outrage over Meadows using his personal email, a burner phone (you know, like a gang member), and other personal devices.

He should have listened to Herm Edwards -- "DON'T HIT SEND!"

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
19. The tape says otherwise, Sean.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:04 AM
Dec 2021

Tired of the “who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes or ears” routine.

They are relying too heavily on their sheep to believe the bullshit they spew.

patphil

(6,182 posts)
27. I think Sean is more than a little worried that he will get sucked up in this investigation.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:34 AM
Dec 2021

He's been a facilitator for Trump for years.

NCDem47

(2,249 posts)
29. Dude, you chose to be a public figure
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:47 AM
Dec 2021

NOTHING you do is "private."

Can't have it both ways. Expect everyone to watch you, then say you deserve privacy.

You had DIRECT communication with the President of the United States. It IS our business.

multigraincracker

(32,688 posts)
30. I'm so old that I remember when he claimed
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:51 AM
Dec 2021

waterboarding is not torture and he would let them waterboard him on tv to prove it.
I'd bring that up every time he speaks about anything.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
31. Hey Sean, you know why we're able to read Elizabeth Holmes emails?
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:52 AM
Dec 2021

It's because it's a criminal matter.

You know what a crime is, don't you big boy?

An example of a crime would be treason. You should look into it. A conspiracy to commit treason is also a crime. Got it big boy? No?

You may learn a little more about it in the future.

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
36. You're not media, you're entertainment! ...
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:31 PM
Dec 2021

And once your text are introduced into a public process, they are no longer private,
unless it's deemed classified for National Security purposes.

Live with it, loser

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
42. They just needed a day to come up with their coordinated talking points.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:40 PM
Dec 2021

That is all this is. Both Hannity and Ingraham made the same statement. "There is no discrepancy between my texts and what I said on air". Both of them. They are both attacking the "media" for releasing the texts and Liz Cheney for reading them into the record.

This is why they were silent for a whole day after the texts were revealed. They needed to meet with their consultants and lawyers to come up with their strategy on how to obfuscate and lie.

KS Toronado

(17,259 posts)
43. Rs truly believe in privacy in this country
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:41 PM
Dec 2021

Look how they vote in congress to any issue related to Jan 6th. "Nothing to see here, none of your business."

AllaN01Bear

(18,261 posts)
44. friend of mine who is strong union democrat watchted him the other day
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 12:41 PM
Dec 2021

,, said that "this guy is awful, hes worse than limburger "!!.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,698 posts)
53. Conservatives: When you do it, it's a scandal. When I do it, it's an invasion of privacy
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 12:37 PM
Dec 2021

I will quote every conservative I've ever met on privacy: Where does it say in the Bill of Rights that YOU have a right to privacy?

And as a public figure in the midst of a massive scandal, the CYA is intense.

Difference is they rally around each other. We eat our own.

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