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Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:00 PM Dec 2021

Listen to me DAMMIT! We are already OUT OF TIME! DAMMIT! Originally it said please, not dammit

Last edited Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:31 PM - Edit history (1)

I appreciate my DU friends who chastise me a bit when I do doom and gloom, but all that is out the window now.

Thanks to Ed Perlmutter, BTW...


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Sure, some of us said this 5 yrs ago but back then it was because it was clear the traitor and his team were working hand in hand with OUR ENEMY to influence the outcome of our elections. That did NOT stop many people including HERE yelling at me demanding I prove it or didn't I know the meaning of the word!

Anyway, BEST CASE folks is Sinema and Manchin cut their bullshit, allow us to pass voting rights (change filibuster) and EVEN THEN what happens, please tell me, when NO red state agrees to certify ANY election, House or Senate, that they lose?

Who here thinks any red state repub official or elections process officials will agree they lost an election when they KNOW the traitor will eviscerate them if they do? Are the courts going to save us? Will chaos set in?

BTW I want to BE WRONG and if I am I will come back here and say so, but for now can we ASSUME that all republicans will do the worst thing imaginable please?

MORE THAN HALF of the GOP think the election was stolen! Think about what that means for next November.

If the DOJ doesn't indict most of these people, they will DO IT AGAIN!

Media and Democrats and DU members everywhere and anywhere they go MUST talk in terms of EMERGENCY not unlike



(When this came out in the theaters and I saw Alan Arkin for the first time I became a huge fan)

and I changed the title from please to dammit, not getting any reaction hardly...weird

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Listen to me DAMMIT! We are already OUT OF TIME! DAMMIT! Originally it said please, not dammit (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Dec 2021 OP
I agree, it is hair-on-fire time intrepidity Dec 2021 #1
Thanks for adding that. Folks are worried about 2024, I say we dont get to 2024 unless Eliot Rosewater Dec 2021 #2
I have a bad llashram Dec 2021 #3
And there is that. What we refuse to accept is that the GOP and over 50 million Americans Eliot Rosewater Dec 2021 #4
That is the issue TheRealNorth Dec 2021 #5
The fascists are organized, why Mary in S. Carolina Dec 2021 #6
Time to overhaul voting machine regulations. IbogaProject Dec 2021 #7
OMG! Why didn't SOMEBODY WARN US THIS WOULD HAPPEN!! Budi Dec 2021 #8

intrepidity

(7,307 posts)
1. I agree, it is hair-on-fire time
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:12 PM
Dec 2021

Their last hope is to go full-steam ahead with using States' rights/powers to fulfill their agenda, and are and have been populating those State seats of power with their Red Hat sycophants.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
2. Thanks for adding that. Folks are worried about 2024, I say we dont get to 2024 unless
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:15 PM
Dec 2021

something DRASTIC happens.

If this was a sports game and I was going to make a bet, I would have to choose one of the following:

the team that will play be the rules, who is the better team but will accept the outcome no matter what

vs

the team that will ignore all rules, will not accept if they lose and will create chaos so the referees cant do their jobs



I would have to bet on team b....if it was for money.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
3. I have a bad
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:26 PM
Dec 2021

feeling. Because everything found to have been done illegally by trump and crew will end up in the Supreme Court.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
4. And there is that. What we refuse to accept is that the GOP and over 50 million Americans
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:29 PM
Dec 2021

WILL go along with changing the outcome of the election to give it to trump, period.

They will and it is that simple.

Whether the SC upholds it or not remains to be seen, but would we get that far or would the new fascist govt take over?

The sad thing is not that long ago my posts would be viciously attacked and I sure hope those people are finally admitting they were wrong...

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
5. That is the issue
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:40 PM
Dec 2021

The majority of Republicans don't care about Democracy. And if we protest they have no qualms about "taking care" of us.

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
6. The fascists are organized, why
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:49 PM
Dec 2021

can't we organize? We need some common thread like the evangelicals.

We are in charge. Why can't we play by their playbook and not sit incoming House or Senate Republican's. If the democrats are shut out from counting votes, etc let's delay the sitting of Republicans until we can count the votes and then we can drag out lawsuits for years.

Our democracy is at risk, one person, one vote and the fascists should not be in charge of which votes count and which votes do not count.

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
7. Time to overhaul voting machine regulations.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 05:57 PM
Dec 2021

Long time to overhaul voting machine regulations. We need ones that scan paper ballots kick out a receipt that verifies correct reading and those ballots need to be secured for hand recounts. Both as a part of auditing a small sample each election and for official recounts.

Shady vote tabulation is how BREXIT passed and likely how the Torries mananage to win. McConnell's win in 2020 was suspect too. TFG chose to blame the stronger machines to displace interest in the dirty states w sketchy vote machines.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-vulnerabilities-of-our-voting-machines/

https://blackboxvoting.org/ This site was good w the problems in 2000-2004 but was stale for awhile. Someone new is running it and I can not vouch for the quality of the info. But we need hard paper ballots w enough subject to audit to minimize fraud. We also need the machines with auditable code and clear rules about tabulations. This issue has been hurting us as much as, voter suppression, gerrymandering, unlimited campaign cash and the both sides horserace media.

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