Check In if you think it's high time for Attorney General Garland to Take Action

[berni_mccoy]

The American people have waited long enough.

It’s clear there was a conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. Government and to use violence to interfere with the Democratic process called out in the Constitution. That, by definition, is insurrection and terrorism.

If Garland fails to act, he is putting the U.S. in grave risk.

Appoint a special prosecutor and start arresting those who were organizing this coup, all the way to the very top!

[Elessar Zappa]

1. Any action taken

will probably come after the house committee turns over their final findings to the DOJ. Maybe not but that’s my guess.

[Joinfortmill]

34. Totally agree.

[Demsrule86]

2. I think it is an investigation and you should stop.

[Pantagruel]

3. Pearl clutcher alert!

Chew on these and develop some patience:

https://terikanefield.com/dangerous-lies-and-simplifications/


https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/12/03/ten-things-tv-lawyers-can-do-rather-than-whinging-about-merrick-garland/

[berni_mccoy]

7. So you're good at name calling others... you'd same the same of Rep. Schiff?

Is he a pearl clutcher too?

[Pantagruel]

9. Schiff is doing his job

and Garland will do his but there are procedures to follow. Angry mobs rarely dispense justice.

[leftstreet]

10. lol "angry mobs" n/t

[Grasswire2]

11. ditto

LOL

"angry mobs"

such hyperbole

[berni_mccoy]

14. What angry mob? You mean the Jan 6th one that tried to overthrow the gov't

And nearly succeeded?

[lame54]

19. So, do you have knowledge of what he's up to or...

Are you going on blind faith?

Because that is not acceptable

We must somehow some way be in the loop

If we get to the tipping point and discover he hasn't been on it - then it is too late to petition for it.

And, no, we don't need to know all the details
Just that he is all over this

The ambiguity is risky

[SayItLoud]

29. I don't have a clue what MG is up to or knows or plans...but I do KNOW who

#individual1 is and his co conspirator got 3 years. Just sayin...our justice system can prosecute more than one crime at a time, but it's not.

[Fiendish Thingy]

75. You/we have no right to be "in the loop"

Your need to satisfy your impatient curiosity does not outweigh the need for DOJ to create a prosecution that results in convictions.

You can’t have both.

[Scrivener7]

36. Angry mobs also rarely prevent others from asking for justice.

Just saying.

[Rebl2]

63. Dot all "i's"

and cross all “t’s” to have iron clad case and I do believe we are getting closer to that.

[Escurumbele]

89. Where have I heard that before? Oh yes, during the Muller investigations...Glen Kirshner, a

prosecutor for 30 years seems to be of the opinion that Garland needs to indict NOW, that there is plenty of proof to indict and prosecute trump and many of his minions. I don't know, but I think I will believe Kirshner, he seems to know what is going more than any of us DUers.

[berni_mccoy]

116. Some here are willfully ignoring him and other experts

I’m gonna return to this in the spring when still nothing has happened.

[DLevine]

4. Agreed. nt

[marble falls]

5. How do you know the AG is not working a case against 45 right this very second?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

6. Because he hasn't notified the OP yet.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

56. LOL.

[we can do it]

82. Yer killin me.

[sheshe2]

105. ;)

[MarineCombatEngineer]

106. ...

[George II]

111. I keep looking up in the sky for the Bat Signal.

[lame54]

20. We don't and that's the problem...

Don't Ass-U-Me

[NurseJackie]

30. No, that's not a problem. It's not his job to tweet every move he makes...

... it's not his job to have a press conference or a press release for every phone call he takes. What good purpose would it serve to give those in his sights an advance-warning about the evidence that he (and others) are looking at? Zero. (Other than satisfying the curiosities of impatient onlookers.)

All this griping is ridiculous.

[lame54]

54. Nobody's asking for that - nice hyperbole

[NurseJackie]

96. Of course that's what "everyone" is asking for.

Boo hoo... he's not keeping us informed.
... we don't know what's going on.
... it's taking too long.
... where are the executions.
... that's just a slap on the wrist.
... why isn't he in jail.

All this impatience is ridiculous. It serves no good purpose. It's just another backhanded way to shit on the Biden administration.

[marble falls]

148. Oh, but yes you are. You want 45 so bad it's clouding reason. Prosecutors do not ...

... journalize what they are doing before an indictment gets brought down.

[we can do it]

84. +1

[NurseJackie]

25. Because the OP expects Garland to tweet about every memo, meeting, letter and phone call?

Threads like this are ridiculous and serve absolutely ZERO good purpose. It's just a backhanded and passive-aggressive way for people to SHIT on the Biden administration by falsely insinuating that it's incompetent, or corrupt, or lazy. It's unclear to me if this is some sort of revenge or if there's some other motivation behind it all, but what remains very clear to me is that it's meant to impugn Biden's judgement and intelligence and level of engagement. Whether it's on Twitter or elsewhere, it's always the same ones... it never ends.

Fortunately, people like you and I are adults and we understand that complicated things like this take time and that important things like this should not be rushed and need to be done carefully, meticulously, and with great attention to detail, facts and following proper procedure.

[sheshe2]

76. If he is tweeting he is not working.

I agree with you 100%, both your comments...You don't, you just don't make your case step by step in the media. You never show your hand to the defense team. Why would anyone think that is a good idea.

[we can do it]

80. Truth

[berni_mccoy]

129. How do you know he is.

Regardless of who is in charge, everyone knows that an investigation like this would not be kept secret.

There would absolutely be leaks.

That is why prosecutors announce when they make investigations of high profile individuals.

[Baked Potato]

8. I think his calm demeanor and smoldering

determination is cloaking an Insurrectionist Assassin and bringer of justice to the Buffoon Tycoon.

[pwb]

12. Joe'e people know when to release findings and

I think he is doing great. Politically this is not a good time it being far from any election. Meanwhile any puke squirming is good for me, it is a good feeling..I am enjoying the wait.

[monkeyman1]

39. ya ' beat me too it !!! thank's !!!!

[agingdem]

51. I'm with you...

Garland will not supersede the January Select Committee..when Garland goes after Trump the charges have to be incontrovertible..and like you, I am so enjoying Trump's venomous enablers castrate themselves...

[Mr. Ected]

13. The wheels of justice turn exceedingly slow but

stop turning completely when a fascist pulls the plug on them.

I'm also wishing we had some "sign" from DOJ that these threats to our democracy will not go unpunished but telegraphing their intentions is probably just as bad as keeping things on the down low.

After watching Mueller's team and all its efforts being quashed before our very eyes, it's no wonder there's millions of us wondering if the system has been destroyed from within and justice will not be advanced.

However, let's let the Commission do its thing. I think the meat on the bone is coming soon and, if there's enough there to warrant a special prosecutor - and I think it's pretty obvious there will be - then come springtime, that'll be the direction that Garland takes.

[LoisB]

16. I think you are absolutely right. We need to wait for the Commission to finish. I would hate

for Trump and Co. to get off because some small detail was missed because DOJ acted too soon. I also don't think Garland is one to telegraph what he is doing.

[Hoyt]

15. So far, there is no evidence of anyone but Proud Boyz and the like "organizing" violence.

Hope they find evidence, but until they do, I doubt anyone like trump will be indicted.

As far as the Bombshell PowerPoint presentation, just about everyone involved can say that they rejected the options since none of it ultimately happened.

Learned my lessons waking up several times at night for months to see if george war bush had been arrested by Patrick Fitzgerald.

[gab13by13]

79. Monday and Tuesday Liz Cheney laid it all out,

for Merrick Garland what to charge Trump with; impeding or stopping a government (Congressional) function. Even one of the judges who is sentencing the traitors stated that law should be used by DOJ prosecutors.

I can't prove a negative but I do know a few things that DOJ did not do.

1. Donald Trump was individual 1 in the Stormy Daniels campaign election law violation. Michael Cohen went to jail. Mueller's only reason for not indicting Trump was because he was a sitting president. Garland passed on indicting Trump, the statute of limitations is over.
2. Garland allowed a pro-Trump Cyber Ninja group to violate federal election law when they took possession of ballots, voter information and election equipment which should have stayed in the possession of election officials. Because of Garland's inaction the fraudits moved to other states and kept alive the Big Lie.
3. Several judges, at least 3, have complained that DOJ prosecutors are not seeking stiff enough sentences for traitors who attacked the Capitol. Every last traitor who invaded the Capitol committed a crime. Many of the criminals got zero jail time. A recent traitor made a mockery of her sentence, she said she will use the time in jail to learn yoga and lose weight and stop drinking. Anyone who aided and abetted the traitors who attacked the Capitol are complicit. Who gave Capitol tours? Who disabled the panic buttons? It's going to be a year pretty soon, how soon is too soon?

[Hoyt]

99. Cohen was convicted of tax fraud and campaign finance violations.

Not sure Garland could stop a state from allowing review of ballots. Everyone knows there was no fraud that would have made a difference in vote tally. Some won’t admit they know it.

Would love to see trump rubes rotting in jail, but most are serving hefty sentences.

Tours— the only one I’m aware of is the high school drop out who took her son and mother to the Capitol. Not really damning.

If they want to get trump, they should go after him for asking Georgia election officials to find 11,800 votes. They have that on tape. I suspect officials know a jury will not convict trump, unless they find an overt threat.

Mueller said over 20 times that there was no evidence trump colluded or cooperated with Ruskies. That would be impossible to overcome in court.

We all know he’s guilty of a lot of things. That should be enough to keep him from even winning a primary.

[George II]

112. A few points or questions:

1. What is the statute of limitations for the election law violation? Was it between Jan 20, 2020 and today?
2. The Federal government doesn't have jurisdiction or authority over ballots after an election is certified by the state.
3. Judges hand down sentences, not the DOJ. Those who got zero time received those sentences from the judge. And some of those cooperated with the ongoing investigations of others.

Remember, if a case isn't properly documented, constructed, and presented it can be dismissed due to legal technical errors.

[Nululu]

17. Massive evidence of Trump's treason NT

[monkeyman1]

44. " THE NOOSE IS GETTING MORE TIGHT & THEY ARE SQUIRMING" !!

[NurseJackie]

18. Yawn.

[berni_mccoy]

57. I suppose you think Garland is working tirelessly

Building an iron clad case in the secrecy of night, waiting to pounce with a peep walk of Trump.

Wake the fuck up! If we want justice we’re going to have to demand it.

Just ask anyone who has marched with BLM.

[NurseJackie]

65. Lulz.

OP's like this one are counterproductive. It serves no good purpose. At all.

All these whining and griping and tantrums and name-calling won't change anything. As an adult, I've learned to be patient... that was something that I tried to teach to my children.

[berni_mccoy]

66. I suppose you think this is all a fucking laugh factory

Go ahead and yuk yuk yuk.

[NurseJackie]

100. The ridiculous impatience gives me a chuckle.

[berni_mccoy]

154. The clock is running out and you very well know it

By this time next year, it will be too late.

[NurseJackie]

155. Shitting on the Biden administration helps nobody... and you very well know it.

[berni_mccoy]

156. Love the insults and bullshit arguments you make

No one is “shitting on the Biden administration”. We are demanding Trump and cronies be held accountable. It’s way past time for anything to be publicly shared if the DOJ is indeed pursuing this.

[NurseJackie]

159. Throwing a tantrum isn't helping anything.

It’s way past time for anything to be publicly shared if the DOJ is indeed pursuing this.

Throwing a tantrum isn't helping anything. It's not setting a good example. For me, personally... I try to do the adult thing.

No one is “shitting on the Biden administration”.

That's exactly what it is. It serves no good purpose to continue pretending otherwise.

[berni_mccoy]

164. So why do you keep throwing them?

[NurseJackie]

165. No. I'm willing to let Garland do his job and in his own time.

I've calmly and repeatedly stated that I'm willing to let Garland do his job, in his own time. He's an honorable man. He's a professional He knows what he's doing. He knows the law.

I've also pointed out that those who continually shit on the Biden administration are doing a disservice to us all.

So why do you keep throwing them?

I'm not. What an absurd thing to say about me.



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[Cha]

163. Exactly.. TY!

[NurseJackie]

166. You're welcome.

[George II]

170. That looks delicious - guess what I'm having in the morning?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

167. Only on a few claims

You do realize that there are a large number of claims that can be brought against TFG and his family including a large number due to Jan. 6. The Department of Justice has procedures for developing these cases and as far as we know the DOJ is following these procedures.

The NY state cases on fraudulent appraisals and tax filings are basically slam dunk document cases where the documents will speak for themselves The GA voter fraud case is similar in that there is a tape. The Jan 6 Committee appears to be building a great case against TFG and his allies.

Again, in the real world the DOJ has to follow its own internal procedures and these procedures take time.

Already the Merrick Garland DOJ has been aggressive in allowing DOJ officials to testify to the Jan. 6 committee and to the DOJ. For example, former DOJ Official Ken Klukowski who served as a Deputy to Jeffery Clark is meeting today with the Jan. 6 Committee which could not have happened with the consent and approval of the Merrick DOJ

Link to tweet

In the real world, these investigations and cases take time to build and the attacks on AG Garland really serve no purpose

[MarineCombatEngineer]

69. I fully agree.

I learned my patience through 35 years in the Marine Corps, that's one of the first things you learn in the military, patience.

[NurseJackie]

162. Hurry up and wait.

[wellst0nev0ter]

21. Way past time

[NurseJackie]

40. I'm pleased that he's taking his time and doing it carefully and meticulously...

... I'm adult enough to trust the process and to allow the professionals enough time to do their jobs as they're supposed to. Y'all can keep whining and complaining, but it's not going to speed things up.

[JanMichael]

50. If, and only if, you are wrong. Will you admit it?

[BigmanPigman]

86. I wouldn't count on it.

[NurseJackie]

95. Haaaa!

She has a role to play, and she sticks to it.

I'm an adult. I know how to wait patiently.

[NurseJackie]

94. Lulz.

It's not about me.

[George II]

108. There's a right answer and a wrong answer to this? How many days are right and how many wrong?

[wellst0nev0ter]

88. Trump should have been arrested the minute he was out of office

How can Individual 1 walk free for the same crime Michael Cohen committed?

[NurseJackie]

93. Absurd.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

123. I agree

No one knows what Garland is actually investigating and what progress is being made. That is how it is supposed to work in a real DOJ that abides by professional ethics and DOJ rules

[PufPuf23]

22. Why can't the Senate and the House call members who have been as complicit

in January 6 to testify and answer relevant questions before their bodies NOW? And then censure, expel, etc.

Those that would not vote for the censure would expose themselves as traitors as well. Flood all media.

The only way we are going to get through this mess is to starkly identify the leaders and financiers of January 6, punish severely, and rub the facts into the pols and their supporters to the degree they can never be re-elected or otherwise hold public office.

Excuse me, I am finding life frustrating at the moment.

[Peregrine Took]

23. Amen x 1000. n/t

[we can do it]

24. Jeezus can we go an hour without this?

[NurseJackie]

26. Apparently not. This type of sniping serves no good purpose. It's ridiculous, isn't it?

[we can do it]

27. Yes, and tiring🥱.

[Budi]

55. Ikr! This sounds exactly like Nina Turner's 'bowl of shit' twitter & emails right now.

Same message, same mass fundraising email.

Send Money! Garland/Biden/Democrats can't be stopped without your $$$ flowing my way..!

JFC...

[berni_mccoy]

58. I suppose you think Garland is working tirelessly

Building an iron clad case in the secrecy of night, waiting to pounce with a peep walk of Trump.

Wake the fuck up! If we want justice we’re going to have to demand it.

Just ask anyone who has marched with BLM.

[we can do it]

83. I'm awake. Stay in you damn lane FFS.

[berni_mccoy]

102. Stay in my lane?! What lane is that, exactly?

Maybe you should watch what you post?

[sheshe2]

104. Yes. I believe he is.

berni_mccoy

58. I suppose you think Garland is working tirelessly

[traitorsgalore]

28. Nah, let's all feel constantly betrayed because there's no justice for top tier criminals

Let it be a daily reminder that we're 2nd-class citizens, little peons that should go to work with covidiots or tornado warnings or a less than living wage. And, no dental coverage either ya little 2nd-class nobodies, just shutup and take the pittance that's trickled down on you for the last 40 years.

[NurseJackie]

32. Ridiculous.

[Budi]

52. Omg...

If, if...snif sniff..only..somebody would have had the balls to step forward and warn us about the pending doom of Trump!!

Why didn't Someone Say Something!!!

Now what!!

[berni_mccoy]

60. I suppose you think Garland is working tirelessly

Building an iron clad case in the secrecy of night, waiting to pounce with a peep walk of Trump.

Wake the fuck up! If we want justice we’re going to have to demand it.

Just ask anyone who has marched with BLM.

[TexasTowelie]

107. Okay, this is the third or fourth time that I've read this or a similar remark from you in this

thread. Do you actually believe that you are being persuasive when you tell other DU members to "wake the fuck up?" Try using a little bit of human psychology and realize that when you tell people to "wake the fuck up" they are more apt to completely blow you off and ignore you. You've damaged your own credibility by using that response.

Something to ponder as you are summarily dismissed.

[berni_mccoy]

109. Oh thanks so much for your great wisdom Towlie

Let’s hope that gets us through whatever comes when no one responsible for Jan 6 is held accountable.

[TexasTowelie]

113. I don't subscribe to your pessimism.

You are entitled to make whatever you want of this world, but cynicism is destructive and isolating. Have you ever heard anybody say, "X is a miserable person and I want to spend more time around him?"

[berni_mccoy]

114. You see it is cynical, I see it as being real.

I’ve been around too damn long to know that the DOJ isn’t doing anything about Trump.

[TexasTowelie]

149. Bookmarking.

I've been around long enough to develop some patience along the way.

[berni_mccoy]

150. Did you bookmark my posts on BBB too?

I was told I was a pearl-clutcher there too.

But I was 100% right. BBB is effectively dead.

[TexasTowelie]

152. Why should I?

You insulted four members with your replies to "wake the fuck up" and you failed to persuade anyone that didn't already agree with you. Do you actually believe that anyone should take you seriously and bookmark your comments after your rudeness?

While I have the patience to see how all of this ends, it's apparent that you lack patience and want immediate gratification. I have personal experience developing legal enforcement actions. I know the work involved with building airtight legal cases. At the same time, the cases that I assisted with developing were relatively simplistic in contrast to what occurred on January 6. With the complex cases that are involved, I believe that it is unreasonable to meet milestones on a timeline as some desire.

Your claim that you were 100% right about BBB is a premature assessment of the situation so boasting about your expertise is laughable. Are you going to post an OP eating crow when you are proven wrong? I already know the answer to that question and I expect that you will complain that some program wasn't funded to your satisfaction when the bill becomes law.

[berni_mccoy]

153. By bookmarking this thread you are throwing down...

And stomping your feet that you are absolutely right and can’t wait to prove me wrong.

I’d absolutely love to be wrong. Why is it so hard to ask for justice from our own side?!

[TexasTowelie]

157. I'm bookmarking this thread because of your impulsive calls for immediate gratification.

If anyone is stomping their feet, it is you who is claiming throughout the thread that DOJ isn't doing anything and will cover up the crimes leading up to and occurring on January 6. Are you objective enough to realize to recognize your own obstinance?

I don't know if anyone is waiting to prove you wrong since it would be considered a personal attack and the post might be hidden. You made your case asking for the DOJ to act. Some members agreed with you, while others didn't. However, from reading the thread it is apparent that your statements haven't persuaded anyone. The DOJ will move at their own pace and your OP will have no impact on how they proceed. I don't have to make a special request from our side of the aisle for justice because I believe that the DOJ is doing their job and is already working diligently to that end.

[NurseJackie]

158. Why is it so hard to stop shitting on the Biden administration?

What good purpose does it serve to insinuate that Biden has poor judgement, or to suggest he's trusting the wrong person? Who is helped by accusing Garland of being incompetent, or being complicit, or being corrupt, or being lazy, or not caring (or any of the dozen other accusations and insults being hurled at him)??

I’d absolutely love to be wrong.

That seems questionable given your own indications and desire and eagerness to bring this thread back up again sometime in the future for the purpose of gleeful "told-ya-sewing".

Why is it so hard to ask for justice from our own side?!

Shitting on Democrats is not "asking for justice". It's ridiculous to pretend that it is. Stop it.

[George II]

126. Four actually, with the same "peep walk" in all four (#57, #58, #60, #61).....

I can't speak for anyone else, but I DID "wake the fuck up" years ago when trump started dismantling our democracy.

I want to see all of the prosecuted, convicted, and jailed.

But I want to see it done properly with solid air-tight cases, not just willy-nilly to please some people. I'm not an attorney, but I know how involved it is getting all the facts straight, credible witnesses, and a clear idea of what crimes have been committed.

Without that the DOJ would very likely have some cases dismissed outright or lose them before a jury due to shoddy, incomplete presentation.

[NurseJackie]

169. We don't need to "O-J" this thing up by rushing to satisfy the blogosphere...

... but for the sake of some people's impatience (and other disgruntled behaviors) we keep hearing these irresponsible DEMANDS and tantrums. It's always insulting AG Garland with back-handed and passive-aggressive insinuations that he's complicit, or corrupt, or incompetent, or lazy, or that he doesn't care, or that he's "protecting the establishment".

AG Garland is not going to be another Marcia Clark.

[radius777]

72. +1. Garland like Mueller is a product of the establishment,

one that has served them well, and one that was designed to benefit those who are white, wealthy and well connected.

So when people get their hopes up about such institutionalists going to the mat for justice - think again. Strongly worded memos and slap on the wrist sentences are the most we are likely to get.

All while voting rights for black and brown Americans gets flushed down the toilet, along with reproductive rights for American women.

As Warnock said yesterday, bipartanship and compromise often come on the backs of the marginalized.

[brooklynite]

31. And by act you mean "indict someone even if the case isn't ready, to make the blogosphere happy"?

No thanks.

[berni_mccoy]

61. I suppose you think Garland is working tirelessly

Building an iron clad case in the secrecy of night, waiting to pounce with a peep walk of Trump.

Wake the fuck up! If we want justice we’re going to have to demand it.

Just ask anyone who has marched with BLM.

[brooklynite]

103. You apparently think that President Biden is unaware, or worse, accommodating of Garland's behavior

...and also that complaining on an internet blog will have the same impact as a BLM march. Good luck.

[berni_mccoy]

115. Biden has said he won't get involved with DOJ investigations

[brooklynite]

117. I knew someone would offer this attempted excuse...

There's a difference between the President interfering in the specifics of a criminal investigation and replacing a Cabinet officials who, according to you, isn't doing his job competently.

[berni_mccoy]

118. How's that BBB going? I've been saying all along that Manchin

Would never support it. And now Dems are giving up on it, betraying the Progressives.

I’m right about Garland. He is not going to go after Trump. If he were, he would have done so by now.

[brooklynite]

119. When did this become a thread about Manchin?

[berni_mccoy]

121. When did people at DU give up?

[brooklynite]

122. I haven't.

But then I haven't told myself that Garland (the subject of the OP) isn't working quickly enough.

[berni_mccoy]

128. I haven't either. I'm calling for action and for those here to do so as well

You should be too instead of criticizing people like me.

[Sneederbunk]

33. Visions of Holder and Wall Street.

[ShazamIam]

35. What is missing is any support for prosecution of the seditionists by the national news media, they

are all just, ho hum just move on, and half the Republicans believe the lie. The nation will have to be firmly behind any effort to punish a former Republican U.S. President.
Why, because if you look up who the investor/owners of the media and news companies the largest owners include one or two or three of these names, Vanguard, Black Rock, State Street, those and about 3 others make up most of the news media ownership.

They are represented on the Boards of directors of all the companies who donate to our elected, in other words, the same people who created our deep inequality and loss of democratic traditions, via financial support for campaigns, own the news.

So why would the people who own the news use it to cut their own profits and wealth?

[Scrivener7]

37. I do! I do!

[mrsadm]

38. checking in - as soon as possible please!

[lees1975]

41. I do not believe that this administration

will allow the opportunity to prosecute Trump for his crimes go without doing anything at the DOJ level.

We're not even a year into the Biden administration at this point.

I do think there needs to be an element of this somewhere that continues to put out the facts and keep reminding people that their government was almost stolen from them.

[monkeyman1]

46. bull -shit !

[MarineCombatEngineer]

47. People don't seem to realize just how complex this investigation is,

hell, it took years to investigate and charge Mafia bosses, and this is nothing like the Mafia investigations.

[msfiddlestix]

124. actually, it wouldn't have taken years if J.Edgar Hoover actually went after them

I know he was FBI Director, not DOJ.

Hoover did not go after the Don's... he didn't seek to activate criminal investigations,, arrests, and prosecutions.

Which is why they carried on for a century in this country largely unscathed and succeeded with their large scale criminal enterprises.

They had cover for a very, very long time.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

125. I'm talking more modern times,

like FBI agent Joe Pistone infiltrating the Mafia, the subsequent investigations to charge and convict the suspects, or the ATF infiltration of the biker gangs, or DEA infiltrations of drug gangs,
these sometimes take years to investigate and prosecute and those investigations are nothing like the attempted coup by the Mango Menace and his gang that the 1/6 committee are investigating.

Look, all I'm saying is that people should be patient, this investigation is going to take time, I would imagine that the DoJ wants to have an airtight case against these powerful criminals, they don't want them walking on some stupid technicality.

That's my take on it.

[msfiddlestix]

135. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️

gotcha....

my life span nearing 3/4 century has marked my perceptions to a degree trying my patience greatly.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

137. I hear ya.

I'm 74 and I've seen a lot disappointments in my life also, but I believe that AG Garland is an honorable and ethical man who will pull the trigger when there is an airtight case against this criminal organization.

[msfiddlestix]

139. I'm still hoping...

gotta hang on to a semblance of hope, with a dash of reality when needs must.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

141. You know what would be the ultimate slap in the Mango Menace's face?

AG Garland announcing the empaneling of a Fed. Grand Jury on 1/6/2022 to secure indictments against the Mango Menace and his gang of criminals, with any luck, that would push him towards a myocardial infarction.

I can just picture this happening to him.

[msfiddlestix]

143. That would be the Ultimate cause for Celebration

Actually, if that was the day he was locked up... but I'll take the arrest as the kick starter on that day.

[intheozone]

42. Yep, approaching way past time. Nt

[Orange Buffoon]

43. Can we please have Sally Yates in the DOJ seat please?

[iemanja]

67. Adam Schiff

is my choice.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

45. You do know that it took years to investigate and charge the Mafia, right?

And this is nothing like the Mafia investigations, this is much more complex.

Prosecutors want an airtight case as they can get, no prosecutor is going to bring criminal charges unless they are sure, in their mind, that they can successfully convict a suspect.

Have patience, good things come to those that wait.

[BobTheSubgenius]

48. Everything you said. I'm all about it!

[Beastly Boy]

49. If I were Garland, I would have taken action a long time ago. Trump would have been in jail by now!

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I wouldn't be sitting on my hands doing nothing but wait for so-called "criminal referrals for prosecution" and gather all the so called "necessary evidence" to convene grand juries. Hell, who needs grand juries and all that "due process of law" bullshit anyway?

... Remind me again, why am I not Garland? What's he got that I ain't got?

[brooklynite]

110. Feel free to lay out the iron-clad evidence that will win a conviction for a specific crime

[Beastly Boy]

120. I can't.

It was satire. Apparently it is not so easy to distinguish it from the actual sentiments that regularly appear on DU.

My apologies for not ending my post with a "sarcasm" smilie. I will correct my inexcusable error.

[Kid Berwyn]

53. AG should take all the time needed...

…to lock Trump up.

If I could state a preference: any time in October 2022.

[berni_mccoy]

62. THAT would actually be playing politics with the DOJ

And something I would not imagine Garland ever doing.

[Autumn]

59. Has the Mueller report been released yet?

[Duppers]

64. Any time is good for me...

Put a crimp in the R's election plans.

[AverageOldGuy]

68. Sleepy Garland take action???

Surely you jest.

[Poiuyt]

70. Well I certainly hope Garland has started the process of putting things in place.

If he thinks it's prudent to wait until the House Committee finishes their work before the DOJ does anything, that's fine. It's not fine if he does nothing ever.

[prairierose]

71. At least tell us they are working on it.

n/t

[Fiendish Thingy]

73. What a magnificent display of uninformed impatience

Do you want rapid indictments that result in acquittals, or slow but sure convictions?

It took nine months for George Papadapolous to be indicted by the special prosecutor for making false statements.

The January 6 prosecutions are much more complex than a simple false statement charge.

To all the uninformed, impatient folks responding to this OP, I urge you to educate yourselves. One excellent source I highly recommend is emptywheel.net.

Here’s a good link for starters:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/12/03/ten-things-tv-lawyers-can-do-rather-than-whinging-about-merrick-garland/

[MarineCombatEngineer]

74. THANK YOU!!!!!!!

It took years to investigate and charge Mafia figures, this is a much more complex case and deserves to be investigated properly and only then should charges be brought forward.

[we can do it]

78. Thank you.

[calimary]

77. HERE! Me!! ME!!!

What’s it gonna take, Merrick??????

[relayerbob]

81. You have exactly ZERO idea of what they are doing

Unlike Trump's useless minons, good lawyers don't reveal their hand until they are done.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

91. I think we're having flashbacks of Mueller. What you

said is just like the kinds of things everyone said about him back then. Don't freak out, greatest legal minds, keeping their cards close to their chest, piecing it all together, etc etc. And that all got us nowhere. So worrying about the same thing now is 100% justifiable. I M H O

[relayerbob]

92. What "I" said?

Really?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

98. Sorry about that. I rephrased. My bad.

[Escurumbele]

85. It has been time for a while. We don't hear from him, we don't see him and I don't buy the Muller

comparison of keeping things under wraps, there is SO MUCH evidence to indict all the SOBs that there could not be an easier case for any lawyer to take on. If I were a lawyer I would be salivating at the prospects of the case against all the SOBs.

I have to think that Garland understands the severity of acting and jailing all involved, it is the safeguard of Democracy to a country that has always boasted to have the best Democracy in the World, even though we know it is not so, but Democracy nonetheless.

At stake is also three concepts, "Patriotism", "The Rule of Law", and "No One is Above the Law", and that is what makes our Democracy even with all its faults.

The last problem I see is that by not acting he is making the position of President more important than what it needs to be...lets face it people, it is just a job title, an important one that is given to someone who demonstrates patriotism, leadership, eloquence, honesty, empathy, and all those good old traits that a human should have, and we know trump has none of those.

[Picaro]

90. It's time...

I firmly believe that no action taken is tantamount to saying that the Americans experiment with a constitutional form of government is effectively over. You can’t allow leader ship to try to subvert the very system of government that brought them into power in the first place and just let it pass. While it is an action that is going to bring hysterical accusations of political vengeance we have to ignore these shrieking idiots.

Trump and his acolytes attempted to take over the government by means of violence. I think when it is all said and done we will find out that Bobert and Marjorie Green and Jim Jordan and all of the rest of them actually provided the Intel that allowed these attacks to be so explicitly targeted. they all need to be arrested for sedition and treason. The fact that they are part of the government makes their actions even worse. They knew that they were telling lies about the election and they did not care. They wanted their authoritarian in power. Once the phone records are fully available it is going to become abundantly evident that this was a fairly well thought out plan that would have worked if the military had stepped in on their side. That is the only thing that allowed Biden to ascend to the presidency. The fact that the military did not intervene.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

97. I agree that it's long past time for Garland to actually do something.

I'd see we're going to see yet another Fitzmas.

[totodeinhere]

101. I am willing to allow the Attorney General to take his time to make a good case.

Rushing this to trial without adequate preparation would be a mistake. Remember that President Biden promised that his Justice Department would be allowed independence. In that spirt we should not be telling the Attorney General what he should and should not do.

[kentuck]

127. I think there will be much more impetus to act after the trump makes his appeal to the SC

If they take away the "executive privilege" claim from Trump, he doesn't have a whole lot of arrows left in his quiver.

[MineralMan]

130. What makes you think he is NOT taking action?

Do you have sources inside the DOJ?

Do tell.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

131. AG Garland hasn't called to let the OP know what's going on?

[MineralMan]

133. I guess not. Oh, well...

[berni_mccoy]

140. Ok forget I said anything. Everything is fine and dandy.

Wake me up when there is justice in this fucked up country.

Wait… you hear that? That’s the clue phone . Garland isn’t bringing it

[MarineCombatEngineer]

142. All snark aside,

you, and everyone else here have no fucking idea what's going on in the DoJ, this is a very complex and massive investigation like no other in American history, stop being such a doom and gloom downer here.

What you're suggesting is that AG Garland has no honor or ethics, and that he's going to just let these criminals off.

That's pretty fucked up.

[berni_mccoy]

145. You are putting words in peoples' mouths. We are calling for action

Not making assumptions.

Since when is demanding justice “pretty fucked up”?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

146. You are alluding to that the DoJ is not doing anything because you haven't heard

anything out of them, you are alluding to that there will be no action taken by the DoJ just because you haven't heard anything from them.

I've said my piece, I'm done with you on this particular issue.

[berni_mccoy]

147. I haven't alluded shit. I'm asking for charges

Against those who organized it, starting from the top.

[berni_mccoy]

132. As I have explained to others

Prosecutors announce when they are launching an investigation into high profile individuals for high profile crimes.

Why? Because there are always leaks.

What makes you think he is investigating Trump?

What happens when we are 6 months to a year down the road from now and yet nothing else has happened.

Don’t you remember Fitzmas?

Bush and Cheney committed crimes of the same severity. They betrayed their own intelligence agencies and the military men and women who were killed in the endless wars in the Middle East.

But go ahead and put faith in that system. At your own peril.

[MineralMan]

134. Actually, you have "explained" nothing.

You have merely voiced your impatience and make declarations about your uninformed opinion. You have copied and pasted the same thing multiple times here, in response to people questioning your opinion. What is the point of that?

You are being counterproductive with this. You have no inside information about what is going on at the DOJ. Neither do I. But, you exclaim that nothing is happening, as if you actually knew something, which you do not.

Why should we listen to you? Please provide information in that regard.

[berni_mccoy]

138. I was referring to my response to similar questions you posed

And your attacks on every post I make are noted.

How’s the BBB coming along, now that I recall you insisted it was going to pass despite my raising concerns that Manchin would never support it and that Dems needed to do something to maintain leverage. But whatever. You and the other Cheerleading squad members here can pretend like everything is ok right up to the point that we lose the the House, the Senate and the executive.

Ignore me then. Everything’s just fucking fine.

[MineralMan]

144. So, again, what insider knowledge do you have about either issue?

That's my question. I have no such knowledge, so I watch and wait. I don't come here and attack people about whom I have no information. What is the DOJ doing? Based on what has happened so far, which includes a grand jury and indictment of Bannon, I believe the DOJ is actively investigating and working on many things. We had zero knowledge of that grand jury, so why should I expect to have knowledge of other grand juries or investigations.

Now, you are asking about the BBB. Again, I do not know what form that bill will take in the Senate. That is being worked on right now. My assumption is that when the bill comes to a vote, it will have the support of both Manchin and Sinema. Why? Because there is no point whatsoever in bringing any bill to the floor that does not, given the 50:50 division in that house of Congress. I believe that a BBB will pass. But, I have no inside information about that, either.

I do not "attack every post you make." You are not that important to me, to be quite frank. I respond when I feel like responding. I'm a DUer, so that is my privilege.

Maybe you should ask Bernie Sanders to work on convincing Manchin to vote for the BBB. I have no influence on Manchin. Maybe Senator Sanders does. Please let me know what he says.

I am not part of any "Cheerleading squad." No such squad exists.

[NurseJackie]

160. 😂🤣 Nobody is attacking you.

And your attacks on every post I make are noted.

Nobody is attacking you.

[Emile]

136. Is Trump in jail yet?

By god he should be!

[housecat]

151. He needs the whole enchilada. This is too important to do half-assed. Patience.

[NurseJackie]

161. It reminds me of Veruca Salt.

These types of public temper tantrums accomplish nothing positive and serve no good purpose.

151. He needs the whole enchilada. This is too important to do half-assed. Patience.

Exactly! Thank you.

[housecat]

171. Good comparison (even if I had to look it up)

[NurseJackie]

173. Sorry... here she is.

[housecat]

174. lol thanks for the video. good film!

[budkin]

168. NOW

It cannot wait.

[LexVegas]

172. Have patience. The Mueller report is going to take down Trump. nt