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Bucky

(54,087 posts)
3. We're seeing how frustrating RICO prosecutions are to the victims of organized crime
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:12 PM
Dec 2021

The mob, like the upper echelons of the Republican Party, has a code of silence. You do not betray a family member. You do not cooperate with authorities. You do not rat out the next level of capos above you just to get a plea deal. At all costs, you protect the Don.

Meadows fucked up and started acting like a lawyer, thinking he could shimmy a smooth one past the January 6th committee. He thought wrong. He got his chain yanked and now he's back to acting like a consigliere. He'll plea the Fifth on everything unless they hit him hard where it hurts. The DOJ has to go after his family, his business partners, his private affiliations. That's how they squeeze out rats against the mob. That's how they have to go after the Trump mob too.

Otherwise no one will flip or turn state's evidence. They tried to muscle into the Electoral College. You have to put that kind of organized behavior in the dirt.

Skittles

(153,212 posts)
7. interesting explanation
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:41 PM
Dec 2021

is Trump the Don? WHY do these people humiliate themselves over such a fucking buffoon - WTF, they're putting that orange assclown above the interests of AMERICA

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
9. It's weird. But they've always been susceptible to Cult of Personality extremes.
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 11:07 PM
Dec 2021

For decades it's been the Cult of Reagan. But as objectionable as his policies were, he was always a capable politician, able to cut a deal, able to serve a version of the national interest. His level of corruption was in the normal range personally, but he was shitty at policing his greedy underlings, and so his administration produced a large number of corruption indictments. The cultists ignored it, allowed it, and it just got worse.

They tried to turn Dubya into a cult. Even got that Dominionist chosen-by-God bullshit going. But he was a weak canvas to project their baloney onto. He was corrupt on a grander scale than Reagan. He actually started a war just to privatize the war industry and help his enablers to guzzle the griftings. But at least it made the country temporarily stronger (before the inevitable fan-hittings made the country weaker and more isolated). I mean, yes, he left our enemies stronger, our moral stance in the world muddied, our allies befuddled, and the global chaos he created still spreading. But at least they were discernably pro-American fuckups. Republican support for Bush 2.0 was a failure of judgment, but not outright betrayal to our country itself.

But Don Donald is so easily detected as a hypocrite, so open about his corruption--literally stealing from vets out in the open, literally plundering the Republican party's funds for his personal gain, actually dissing our intel community while handing over intel and geopolitical advantages to the Russians who all-but-openly pushed for his election--they'd have to be braindead not to see through it. And yet they keep on conflating him with Jesus, keep on buying his demonstrably false claims about the election (not just provable lies, but downright idiotic lies), keep on giving money to him no matter how many times his rip-offs have been exposed.

There's 250 Republicans in Congress. Only two have the integrity to say enough is enough. They're just pathetic. They make me worry for this country's future in ways George W Dumbass and the Neocons never did.

Deuxcents

(16,353 posts)
4. Not for Ms Cheny
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:13 PM
Dec 2021

She seems to be intent on holding feet to the fire. I have said this before so again..I am not of the Republican persuasion..at all. But.. Ms Cheny is and on this matter..she’s doing the county’s bidding.. demanding something be done as per our constitution. So far, so good w/ me. Imo

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
5. Agree. It feels weird cheering her along. She was super loyal to Trump's initiatives
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:22 PM
Dec 2021

She didn't bat an eyelash as Trump sabotaged our foreign alliances, undercut our intelligence agencies, and handed treasure troves of intelligence over to Putin.

Deuxcents

(16,353 posts)
6. Don't know about that..
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:38 PM
Dec 2021

I’ve got my eyes on her on this matter. She may be the wicked witch.. if she does right by the constitution.. if she is who she seems to be on this matter... ok. Other issues are for another day..

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,449 posts)
8. Who here would've ever thought that it would be a republican
Wed Dec 15, 2021, 10:42 PM
Dec 2021

who would take on the Mango Menace? And the republican would be none other that Dick Cheney's daughter?

Strange times we live in.

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