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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLiz Cheney is a hero. But she is doing what any decent human being should do in her position.
She is standing up for Americans who do not want to be ruled by an autocrat. You should expect any lawmaker to do that. People have died for the right to free and fair elections. They gave their lives for us. That she is treated like a pariah by Republican lawmakers and the Republican propaganda machine, Fox News, shows how fascist Republicans have become. How will Liz Cheney be remembered and how will Trump and the seditious Republicans be remembered? She will be a hero. They will be remembered as traitors who tried to steal America,
secondwind
(16,903 posts)She is bucking her own party. She deserves an extra mountain of respect for this. Just my 2 cents
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)Elessar Zappa
(14,083 posts)Maga hates her and you cant win a primary without maga support.
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)She's launching her POTUS bid with the blessings of all those who want a return to "a strong Republican party."
They know what they're doing.
leftieNanner
(15,173 posts)She has wanted to park in the Oval Office for a long time!
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)probably from both sides of the aisle
The media and DC establishment just didn't see Trump coming, and they want him and the MAGA base that turned out for him to disappear.
spooky3
(34,484 posts)Trump just fine, and believe he drives clicks to their sites.
walkingman
(7,671 posts)wrong to do so. Lesson learned.
Bev54
(10,074 posts)heroes? As you say they are doing what is right, which is what ALL the dems are doing. When you do the right thing on one issue but choose to continue to vote against the things that will make the country better, such as voting rights, funding to make the lives of millions of Americans better, you are no hero. Standing up for democracy and the constitution is the bare minimum.
Doodley
(9,142 posts)what is?
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)Say that no GOPers were serving on the committee, wouldn't the procedures for investigation be the same?
Doodley
(9,142 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)Pelosi formed the committee and the results were a stroke of genius. Kevin McCarthy got the shit kicked out of him on that one.
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)Meh I guess I'm the only one who sees Liz is getting free POTUS campaign time
Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)to clobber Trump for the nomination, I'm all for it.
Bev54
(10,074 posts)It does not make her a hero but one of two republicans doing the right thing (along with every democrat), which may be rare but not "hero". People seem obsessed with the "hero" status.
Doodley
(9,142 posts)Bev54
(10,074 posts)That is reserved for people who go beyond. If anybody should get full credit, it is Nancy Pelosi for putting the committee together and inviting the two republicans for joining.
Salviati
(6,009 posts)She's saying that the violent suppression of democracy is a line she's not willing to cross, but she's all for the legislative suppression of democracy. I'm glad that she's on our side on this issue, but make no mistake, she is not a friend of democracy in general.
Bev54
(10,074 posts)and yes I am happy that Nancy Pelosi appointed her to the committee, it has helped he dems and she is used to speak to those republicans that are not Trump cult. The fact that people want to call her a hero is just beyond my comprehension.
gab13by13
(21,418 posts)I was elected to borough council back in the 70's because I bucked the mafia-like family who wanted to strip coal on our pristine watershed. The townspeople showed up in record numbers at our council meeting. I didn't plan it but I ended up being the spokesperson. In a subsequent hearing which I wasn't a part of, one of my friends got in a heated argument with the Don of the family. After that hearing the Don went home had a heart attack and died. My friend got death threats, even had one of them recorded. The family had a group of people who showed up to every important council meeting we called them the goon squad, I sat with my back to them. I spent many sleepless nights wondering about my safety. We prevailed in the end but I got a taste of what kind of pressure there is in politics. I cannot imagine the pressure there is to do the right thing at the federal level.
Go get em Liz.
MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)with thousands of people that had "Profiles in Courage" - and yet we've never heard of them. YOU are one of those!
Regarding Liz: I'm not ready to call her a "hero" - but I certainly do admire her conviction and determination. So many have compared the January 6 Insurrection with the events surrounding Watergate and Nixon. A MAJOR difference is that a group of REPUBLICANS went to see Nixon and tell him that he had to go.
Today's RepubiQans are telling US where to go...... :
cloudbase
(5,525 posts)Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)a real ferocity and desire for winning. She's not letting any nicities stand in the way of her mission. She ain't compromising or being intimidated either.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)and i suspect that daddy Cheney is giving her some tips on how to do this, after all, he wrote the book on dirty tricks.
I applaud her for country over party and doing the right thing.
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)"taking names and kicking a$$" Love it.
doc03
(35,386 posts)Ohioboy
(3,248 posts)Seeking the truth should be the least we expect from our lawmakers and leaders. Instead of being commonplace, truth seeking has become something we celebrate as an unusual and rare thing.
It shows how much we have fallen as a nation. I hope someday the truth will be commonplace again.
dchill
(38,556 posts)...to keep my GOP "decent human being" count.
Not EVEN exaggerating. Not even.
Joinfortmill
(14,474 posts)She just might win. But that is a fight for another day.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)1) Its just damn sad that abiding by an oath you took is now seen as a courageous act.
2) She is fighting her own party, which is full of stark-raving lunatics and autocrats who want to destroy democracy. Not only is she taking a huge political risk, shes taking a huge personal one as well.
I admire her.
William Seger
(10,779 posts)... but he didn't have it in him.
Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)Doodley
(9,142 posts)dictator of America is a hero in my book. The stakes could not be bigger. America is over is the Trump coup works next time.
Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)Still not sure at this point if she is just grandstanding in her quest for power and a presidential run.