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At what point do enough unvaxxed Repubs die (Original Post) greenman3610 Dec 2021 OP
Never. BigmanPigman Dec 2021 #1
0.2%..... brooklynite Dec 2021 #6
0.2 pct, 1 pct of over 65, but agree. carpetbagger Dec 2021 #8
Do you have a link for that data? littlemissmartypants Dec 2021 #12
800,000 deaths; population of 329 million brooklynite Dec 2021 #24
You have to go by voting age population. AncientAndy Dec 2021 #25
Calculations scipan Dec 2021 #26
Just realized I accidentally used the 2000 Census. AncientAndy Dec 2021 #28
Thanks for clearing that up. 129k spread over the scipan Dec 2021 #30
More than a Wild Ass Guess scipan Dec 2021 #31
We'll know they've hit the tipping point ... NanceGreggs Dec 2021 #2
No point. They've tied this to freedumb, tyranny, etc. and think they're being noble. SMC22307 Dec 2021 #3
I think this often. Lunabell Dec 2021 #4
They will just keep redrawing districts DBoon Dec 2021 #5
DUZy NJCher Dec 2021 #14
yes Demovictory9 Dec 2021 #20
Never The Revolution Dec 2021 #7
Death rate as % of pop: 824520 deaths / 334 million total population equals 0.25% progree Dec 2021 #17
In a close statewide election none of that would matter. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #22
things we wonder... nt orleans Dec 2021 #9
Repubs are already dead to me. n/t TeamProg Dec 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #11
last time I checked , republican's don't have a platform ! - monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #13
As bad as Covid is, it is not killing that many people PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #15
0.25% as percent of population since beginning of pandemic, 1.6% of all cases ... progree Dec 2021 #18
Right. One quarter of once percent. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2021 #19
Not soon enough for me BigBearJohn Dec 2021 #16
In the next 6 months, I hope. arthritisR_US Dec 2021 #21
The way their rigging elections and gerrymandering Emile Dec 2021 #23
We don't know whether the ones who died would have voted R in the next election FakeNoose Dec 2021 #27
Of course there are new Republican voters. I have such a low opinion of humanity in general marie999 Dec 2021 #29

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
1. Never.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:34 AM
Dec 2021

They have proven that they care about corporations, not people, even their own supporters. They care about their big $$ supporters, not mom and pop.

brooklynite

(94,699 posts)
6. 0.2%.....
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:49 AM
Dec 2021

Last edited Fri Dec 17, 2021, 08:58 AM - Edit history (1)

.....is the percentage of the population that has died from COVID. It will never have a significant impact on voting.

 

AncientAndy

(73 posts)
25. You have to go by voting age population.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 09:27 AM
Dec 2021

Which is 209 million. Then subtract the roughly 40% of people who don’t vote. That makes the percentage is a little bit higher but still not enough to change anything.

scipan

(2,354 posts)
26. Calculations
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:52 PM
Dec 2021

209m x .60 = 125.4m ( but that’s less than 2020; that was about 74+81m=155m)

125.4m x .25% = 313,500 dead voters

Say 2/3 r and 1/3 d: about 100,000 extra r deaths

Guess not much of a difference unless in some hotspots

 

AncientAndy

(73 posts)
28. Just realized I accidentally used the 2000 Census.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:21 PM
Dec 2021

Oops! According to the 2020 Census there are 258.3 million Americans over the age of 18.



Adjusting the math:
258.3m x .6 = 154.98m(might as well round that up to 155m)
155m x .25% = 387,500 dead voters
If 2/3rd are Republican that’s 129,000 more dead R than D.

scipan

(2,354 posts)
30. Thanks for clearing that up. 129k spread over the
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:30 PM
Dec 2021

whole country is still less than the residents of my county. I think you can use this wild ass guess of 2/3 for any particular district and for some small ones that were hard hit (but not overwhelmingly republican) maybe it could make a difference.

scipan

(2,354 posts)
31. More than a Wild Ass Guess
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 07:53 PM
Dec 2021

I remember seeing it somewhere but can’t remember where. So unsourced.

NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
2. We'll know they've hit the tipping point ...
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:43 AM
Dec 2021

... when Republicans introduce legislation that allows dead people to vote.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
3. No point. They've tied this to freedumb, tyranny, etc. and think they're being noble.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:47 AM
Dec 2021

Families who watch loved ones die horrible deaths still refuse vaccines. I'm disgusted - once again - at how the RW has controlled the narrative. Climate change, Saddam and WMDs, guns, Obamacare, Hillary's emails, COVID... it never fucking ends.

Lunabell

(6,105 posts)
4. I think this often.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:47 AM
Dec 2021

I just high five myself every time one of the willingly unvaccinated kicks the bucket. Especially the high profile dumbasses who preach it from their pulpits.

DBoon

(22,395 posts)
5. They will just keep redrawing districts
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:48 AM
Dec 2021

until the last 3 surviving Republicans are the only voters who count

The Revolution

(766 posts)
7. Never
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:52 AM
Dec 2021

The overall death rate is still like 1 or 2% right? And a lot of those will likely still be older people that might have died soon anyway. And the deaths may be concentrated in areas where Republicans were already winning by large margins. And if we are being honest, there were plenty of left-leaning anti-vaxers proir to the pandemic, maybe enough of those will switch over to make up the difference.

Basically, I don't think it's something you can count on.

progree

(10,911 posts)
17. Death rate as % of pop: 824520 deaths / 334 million total population equals 0.25%
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:15 AM
Dec 2021
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

As for death rate as percent of cases, 824,520 / 51,435,652 = 1.6%

From the beginning of the pandemic to now. Death rate per case probably lower later on than early in the pandemic with better treatment options and techniques, vaccinations (I forget what percent of Repucks are vaxxed, 1/3?) and going forward, omicron will probably infect virtually everybody that doesn't take extreme isolation measures, but the death rate for omicron is probably a lot lower, but for awhile, hospitals will be hopelessly overwhelmed...

BannonsLiver

(16,439 posts)
22. In a close statewide election none of that would matter.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 05:49 AM
Dec 2021

Congressional races are a different story. But in a statewide election that’s close in somewhere like GA’s upcoming governors race, for example, an extra 5-10-15k dead republicans could have an impact.

Response to greenman3610 (Original post)

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
13. last time I checked , republican's don't have a platform ! -
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 02:44 AM
Dec 2021

just bad mouthing the dem's , just so high school !

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,879 posts)
15. As bad as Covid is, it is not killing that many people
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:10 AM
Dec 2021

as a percentage of the population. It's having close to zero impact on population. In this country, more than 10,000 babies are born every day. At the worst, only some 3,000 people died each day from Covid. And it was never more than the third largest cause of death.

Keep in mind that the 1918 flu epidemic, as genuinely terrible as that was, did not noticeably lower population. Honestly, the only disease that ever did that was the Black Death in the 14th century.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,879 posts)
19. Right. One quarter of once percent.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 03:36 AM
Dec 2021

Meanwhile, more than 10,000 babies are born each and every day in this country. And some 385,000 world wide each and every day.

The reason the climate is fucked, the reason refugees are such a huge problem is simple: Too many people. And more and more of them each and every day. The current world population is close to 8 billion. On a planet that can sustainably manage about 1 billion people. Either we will collectively, through the sheer weight of numbers, destroy this planet, or (if we are lucky) there will be a serious population crash that will allow the biosphere to recover. I'm not betting on that second possibility.

Maybe the real reason we have not been credibly visited by aliens, or credibly found any evidence of other civilizations out there, is that any technological civilization inevitably destroys itself by some means or another.

FakeNoose

(32,719 posts)
27. We don't know whether the ones who died would have voted R in the next election
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:06 PM
Dec 2021

Another thing we don't know is how many survivors (family members of the victims, I mean) were turned off by Repuke politics after they lost a loved one to Covid. I'm guessing at least some of them will refuse to vote R after losing a loved one unnecessarily.

The one thing I cannot fathom is how anyone could become a new R voter now, after all this, if they weren't already indoctrinated. I don't see how any new R voters could have joined the KKKlan in 2021. I mean, they'd have to be crazy, am I right?

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
29. Of course there are new Republican voters. I have such a low opinion of humanity in general
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 06:49 PM
Dec 2021

that I am surprised there aren't more of them.

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