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Desert_Leslie

(131 posts)
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:40 PM Dec 2021

Manchin & Sinema - Comment Sent

I am CRUSHED that Joe Manchin's "no" could doom Build Back Better. I just sent the following comment to Senator Manchin. I also forwarded it to Senator Sinema, asking her if she could use any kernel of influence she has to get Manchin to change his vote:

My middle-class parents worked like dogs and saved up $150,000 for their retirement and thought they were fortunate. After my mother's stroke, she was totally paralyzed on one side. My parents BLEW through every penny of that money paying for the in-home caregivers my mother needed to get my mom to the toilet and the shower -- to even turn over in bed. Then they were BROKE. I woke up at 3 a.m., worried sick, for FIVE YEARS. We had NO ALTERNATIVE but to put my terrified mother into an understaffed nursing home, crammed to the brink. You, Joe Manchin, could have changed this. This was your chance to help middle-class people in so many ways. You could end SO MUCH HUMAN SUFFERING. WHY WHY WHY did you not vote for Build Back Better?

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Manchin & Sinema - Comment Sent (Original Post) Desert_Leslie Dec 2021 OP
I hate that he's blaming it on his constituents. As if he's even tried to explain it to them Walleye Dec 2021 #1
Because his greed is more important then your parents. Tommymac Dec 2021 #2
The unregulated and undertaxed wealthy will ALWAYS Eyeball_Kid Dec 2021 #5
Real Democracy does a decent job of regulating Capital. Tommymac Dec 2021 #6
The GOP causing human suffering is a feature, not a bug. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #3
1 good thing , republican's - monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #10
I guess the GOP knows their propaganda machine will get more recruits. :( Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #15
thus the continued move to make voting irrelevant quakerboy Dec 2021 #18
While I applaud your effort, if you are not from West Virgina, I doubt it will have much influence JohnSJ Dec 2021 #4
True, but -- Desert_Leslie Dec 2021 #7
+++ JohnSJ Dec 2021 #9
Be prepared Her refusal to approve is next. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #19
And I am sick and f'ing tired..... paleotn Dec 2021 #25
I'll just add the rhetoric.. Septua Dec 2021 #8
Yes Desert_Leslie Dec 2021 #12
Yup, more important now than ever. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #17
Yeap. It should have been first priority, but it wasn't. So we're screwed. housecat Dec 2021 #24
I don't get it either.... YoshidaYui Dec 2021 #11
Great question Desert_Leslie Dec 2021 #14
Teeth not required on the ramen noodle diet. nt childfreebychoice Dec 2021 #20
They voted for the evil one, and they believe Fox. No teeth is not their biggest problem housecat Dec 2021 #23
Sad UCmeNdc Dec 2021 #13
Money. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #16
He is a DINO and only cares about money. Nothing else. housecat Dec 2021 #21
I wish someone would follow the money. Kablooie Dec 2021 #22
ZELL MANCHIN CARES!!! Dirty Socialist Dec 2021 #26

Walleye

(31,039 posts)
1. I hate that he's blaming it on his constituents. As if he's even tried to explain it to them
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:42 PM
Dec 2021

This is your fault senator, not your fellow West Virginians. They thought they were voting for a Democrat

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
2. Because his greed is more important then your parents.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:46 PM
Dec 2021

He gets $$$$$ from the Koch family and other Big Energy 1%'ers.

You can bet their families NEVER have to suffer...and they don't give a rat's ass about yours or mine or any middle class peon.

Been like this throughout history...progressives and Unionists are TRYING to relieve a bit of the suffering, but the monied control the message.

We lost so much when the M$M disinformation turned people away from Unions in the 1960's and 1970's.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
5. The unregulated and undertaxed wealthy will ALWAYS
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:03 PM
Dec 2021

shit on those less advantaged. ALWAYS. There is no time in history when this has NOT happened.

Most political scientists will define the issue as the consequences of an under-regulated capitalist society. When wealth dictates the operations of governing, dictatorships and/or fascism is always the result. Karl Marx convincingly made that point, but his answer to the problem did not, and could not, materialize. Marxism's failure started and ended with the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Once an elite group gains power, they fight to maintain it. Human nature is the part of the equation that Marx failed to consider.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
6. Real Democracy does a decent job of regulating Capital.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:13 PM
Dec 2021

But the emergence of China as a Capitalist Totalitarian State has shown the 1% the way to real permanent power.

And they are bending all the rules and taking out all the stops to turn the whole Globe Authoritarian so they can control 99.99999999% of the wealth.

The loss of Union power in the 1960's and 1970's due to a complicit M$M is now reaching it's full potential.

Effective Unions were the only thing standing between Democracy and Authoritarianism. A whole century of Progress has been dealt a blow that we may never recover from - Climate Change and Viruses could give a shit.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
10. 1 good thing , republican's -
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:00 PM
Dec 2021

are dying off like fleas in a pet's flea dip bath ! couldn't happen to a better taliban party !!!

JohnSJ

(92,366 posts)
4. While I applaud your effort, if you are not from West Virgina, I doubt it will have much influence
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:47 PM
Dec 2021

with him. Hell, even if you were from WV, I am not sure if it would matter.

Much of Manchin's donations are coming from the oil and gas lobby, etc.

Desert_Leslie

(131 posts)
7. True, but --
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:16 PM
Dec 2021

I agree that Manchin won't pay attention to my comment -- I'm not a constituent of his.

But I forwarded my comment to Senator Sinema with this preamble:

"Senator Sinema, I am a registered democrat and your constituent. I knocked on 500 doors in your 2018 campaign. I know that you work alongside Senator Manchin and know him well. I am asking you to use any kernel of influence you have with Senator Manchin to get him to change his 'no' vote on Build Back Better to 'yes.'"

Now, will this do anything at all to change this situation? No. But it beats doing absolutely nothing. Anything beats nothing.

I introduced Senator Sinema twice at local Democratic field offices during the GOTV push. I opened my introductions with the following words from Margaret Mead. It was true when Margaret Mead said it, and it's true today ... as I have to keep telling myself:

A famous woman once said: Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.

paleotn

(17,939 posts)
25. And I am sick and f'ing tired.....
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:41 PM
Dec 2021

of some coal baron, hick from a piss ant state having such impact on national policy. And this is from someone who lives in a piss ant state. Just not Machin's piss ant state.

Septua

(2,257 posts)
8. I'll just add the rhetoric..
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:26 PM
Dec 2021

..that without the voting rights bill getting passed one way or another, Biden's agenda is academic.

Desert_Leslie

(131 posts)
14. Great question
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:04 PM
Dec 2021

That's what I do not understand. WV is such a poor state. I saw that 25% of people in WV do not have their own teeth.

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