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AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:26 PM Dec 2021

How months of talks between Biden and Manchin over Build Back Better broke down

(CNN) President Joe Biden was at home in Delaware Sunday when Sen. Joe Manchin appeared on Fox News to abruptly declare he could not support his sweeping social and climate plan. "I've tried everything humanly possible," the West Virginia Democrat said, appearing remotely. "I can't get there. This is a no."

Biden, who learned of Manchin's plans only minutes before the TV appearance, tried quickly to get the senator on the phone. But his attempts were unsuccessful.

Manchin's move astonished and infuriated the President and his top advisers, people familiar with their reaction said, after having spent the past 12 months in talks with the senator — in Delaware, at the White House, on the phone and even aboard Manchin's houseboat. In an equally surprising step, the White House torched Manchin afterward in a statement bristling with resentment that shattered the amity Biden had sought to cultivate.


Biden personally signed off on the blistering statement issued by press secretary Jen Psaki after Manchin's announcement on Fox News, according to a source familiar with the matter. While staff drafted language addressing Manchin's specific concerns — on inflation, climate provisions and how the plan was paid for — Biden specifically instructed them to add that if Manchin stood by his comments, he had violated his word to the President.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/19/politics/joe-manchin-joe-biden-build-back-better-talks-break-down/index.html

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How months of talks between Biden and Manchin over Build Back Better broke down (Original Post) AZProgressive Dec 2021 OP
One, he never planned to vote for it. bottomofthehill Dec 2021 #1
Agree. MLAA Dec 2021 #2
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Dec 2021 #6
i'd be mad too if someone just torpedoed all the promises i made to get elected Takket Dec 2021 #3
He tried everything humanly possible except explain what he does and does not support in the bill. LonePirate Dec 2021 #4
Make. Him. Vote. CincyDem Dec 2021 #5
And the Republicans as well. Nt jaysunb Dec 2021 #7
Absolutely. CincyDem Dec 2021 #8
I think it is interesting there was a full page ad by the US Chamber of Commerce and doc03 Dec 2021 #9
+1 2naSalit Dec 2021 #10
1 word for Manchin ..... LIAR Trueblue1968 Dec 2021 #11
I don't know if I can forgive him for what he did to the President MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #12

The Magistrate

(95,257 posts)
6. Exactly, Sir
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:40 PM
Dec 2021

He said at at one point that he'd be fine with zero for a total expenditure, and it has become clear he meant it....

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
4. He tried everything humanly possible except explain what he does and does not support in the bill.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:31 PM
Dec 2021

Does anyone believe that line of crap from him?

CincyDem

(6,405 posts)
5. Make. Him. Vote.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:38 PM
Dec 2021

Put the best plan together and hit the floor. If it fails, it fails. Better to go sown swinging that to go down without trying a f’ck good thing.

Make. Him. F’cking. Vote.

CincyDem

(6,405 posts)
8. Absolutely.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:46 PM
Dec 2021

I’m sick and tired of this dance designed to avoid taking a stand…for real, for the record vs this bullchit of predicting what I will or won’t vote for.

doc03

(35,387 posts)
9. I think it is interesting there was a full page ad by the US Chamber of Commerce and
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 11:46 PM
Dec 2021

the WV Chamber of Commerce in the Wheeling Intelligencer Saturday thanking Joe Manchin for fighting
inflation and government spending. Then Sunday he announces he will not vote for the BBB bill. It's like they
knew ahead of time what he was going to do.

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