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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCould Manchin's planned betrayal be cover for an excuse to avoid changing the filibuster?
It just seems theres more to this story.
Irish_Dem
(47,518 posts)He is a saboteur. Doing deliberate damage.
And he tag-teams with that weirdo from Arizona.
Irish_Dem
(47,518 posts)She has the good sense to shut up as she commits her crimes.
2naSalit
(86,839 posts)I think Biden had a withering affect on her antics for attention. She needs to be voted out next election she's up for it.
Irish_Dem
(47,518 posts)Right she should be lining up a new job.
This one is going to go bye bye.
Celerity
(43,587 posts)hardcore (perhaps even more than Manchin) refusal to budge at ALL on the filibuster. She actually wants a 60 vote threshold for all Senate business, ffs.
Irish_Dem
(47,518 posts)And stops flouncing around in ridiculous costumes.
FBaggins
(26,775 posts)Unlike a handful of others, hes seen no reason to hide his position there
dlk
(11,580 posts)He doesnt come across as a straightforward person.
FBaggins
(26,775 posts)Because he sure isnt hiding wanting to leave it as it is. He has been incredibly straightforward about that.
dlk
(11,580 posts)He has said he supports it but isnt interested in changing the filibuster. Thats contradictory.
FBaggins
(26,775 posts)People have supported legislation that doesnt have enough support to pass for centuries. They dont suddenly not support something just because theyre unwilling to change the rules in order to pass it.
How much does Manchin actually support voting rights, if he has the ability to do something to get voting rights passed, yet refuses? This is one important reason why plutocracy and democracy cant coexist.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)It seems strange he'd be trying to cover for a position he's already publicly taken.
dlk
(11,580 posts)It doesnt have to be all or nothing. Manchin recently agreed to a filibuster change for the budget. Apparently, hell negotiate in bad faith over voting rights, too.
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)When someone has no conscience, they can do anything.