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Silent3

(15,293 posts)
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:44 PM Dec 2021

So, we've got about a year left in which we can only get small things done in Congress...

...followed by a likely loss of the House and Senate, followed by two years of chaos and brinkmanship and Republicans using impeachment and investigations against Biden at the federal level, while Republicans further shore up election rigging at the state level, followed by the end of democracy in the US in 2024, perhaps with a civil war resulting if more democratic states want to secede from this upcoming mess.

And then China and Russia taking advantage of crumbling democracy here and elsewhere in the world.

I'd like to think further uncovering of Republican corruption and treason might help save us, but with Republicans playing out the clock, a voting public that either doesn't give a damn or always takes out their frustrations on the incumbent party, and the unchecked current level of Republican election rigging because Manchin and Sinema won't help with voting rights, that doesn't seem like much to hang your hopes on.

Anyone have a realistic hope for better than this?

(Yes, yes, GOTV, and I will vote myself, but that doesn't mean I think GOTV and positive thinking are anywhere CLOSE to being up to the threats we face.)

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So, we've got about a year left in which we can only get small things done in Congress... (Original Post) Silent3 Dec 2021 OP
Voting Rights is a big thing JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #1
I got to your first sentence then you lost me. pwb Dec 2021 #2
Thank you. NurseJackie Dec 2021 #3
From whence will this strong Blue Wave arise? Silent3 Dec 2021 #6
We are the silent majority now. pwb Dec 2021 #8
Hurts me to say it but Colgate 64 Dec 2021 #4
Do you really think Manchin won't fight the Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #5
It's too early luv2fly Dec 2021 #7
The GQP has many more Senate seats to defend than the Dems maxsolomon Dec 2021 #9
Love the "everything is awful" posts CrackityJones75 Dec 2021 #10

JustAnotherGen

(31,926 posts)
1. Voting Rights is a big thing
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:53 PM
Dec 2021

And it's the key to everything else. With solid voting rights - Warnock, Ryan, the PA nominee, Mark Kelly - all win.

Not sure about the House - but I know getting voting rights done is a big effing deal.

And if it doesn't get done by MLK Day (January 17) Biden should cancel it. The GOP doesn't deserve the day off.

pwb

(11,292 posts)
2. I got to your first sentence then you lost me.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:53 PM
Dec 2021

Nothing is likely. Far from it the Blue wave is strong.

Silent3

(15,293 posts)
6. From whence will this strong Blue Wave arise?
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 05:01 PM
Dec 2021

If voters were smart, there would be an overwhelmingly strong wave.

They aren't, however. If they were, Biden's current approval numbers would be much higher. A vast swath of the public has no idea what Biden and the Democrats (quite temporarily, I fear) saved them from if Trump won again, and are not in the least bit grateful or motivated to get out and vote Democratic again because of it.

pwb

(11,292 posts)
8. We are the silent majority now.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 05:24 PM
Dec 2021

Just my opinion. We need to vote is all. The Media has been against Joe from day one so if you are going by their talk yeah. I watch a half hour of news a night now they are so against us. The cost of living raise 5.9% takes effect in ten days. That will help retires quite a bit and calm things down approval wise. It is the Media that is not smart. IMO.

Colgate 64

(14,732 posts)
4. Hurts me to say it but
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:55 PM
Dec 2021

I'm pretty much in agreement with everything you posit. My only hope (and it's probably a forlorn one is that the Senate somehow gets its shit together to pass the voting and election reforms which have been languishing ever since our fellow "Democrats" Joe (Two-face) Manchin and Krystin (I never meet with my constituents) Sinema decided it would be ever so much fun to play "I can fuck up President Biden's whole first term without half trying." So, so much for any action on that front. I believe we're not only screwed as a party - much worse, our entire democracy will slip slide into a full blown autocracy, realizing a Rethuglican control of government for years to come that Karl Rove could only have had wet dreams about.

Mr.Bill

(24,334 posts)
5. Do you really think Manchin won't fight the
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 04:57 PM
Dec 2021

small things, too? Same thing with Sinema. I think they are both on a mission to see we get absolutely nothing done.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
7. It's too early
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 05:17 PM
Dec 2021

Next November is a long way away politically with too many unknowns for anyone to express either gloom and doom or on the other side extreme optimism.

maxsolomon

(33,419 posts)
9. The GQP has many more Senate seats to defend than the Dems
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 06:26 PM
Dec 2021

2020 was much tougher and we took the Senate.

The House I'm less optimistic about.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
10. Love the "everything is awful" posts
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 06:34 PM
Dec 2021

Love the “everything is awful” posts.

It helps me keep my interest and energy up for the upcoming elections. I might even actually cote. If I’m not too downtrodden.

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