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babylonsister

(171,092 posts)
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 01:37 PM Dec 2021

"I Joined A Far-Right Group Of Moms. What I Witnessed Was Frightening."


I Joined A Far-Right Group Of Moms. What I Witnessed Was Frightening.
"I caught a gleam in the woman’s eye I didn’t like. Was there some flirtation with insurrection being suggested here?"
By Phoebe Cohen, Guest Writer
12/21/2021 07:30am EST


“Look out for the trigger words,” the woman says. She’s perched on a chair in front of the room. She’s well-dressed yet funky with elegant boots, a demure sweater and some colorful jewelry. “‘Equality,’ ‘diversity,’ ‘inclusion,’ ‘marginalization,’... These words are CRT. If you see these words in your kids’ homework, you need to speak out.”

I am in a meeting held by a local right-wing mom’s group. It’s an organization catering to mothers who are bent on protesting at school board meetings to stop the supposedly evil critical race theory agenda from being taught in public schools and address other typically conservative concerns.

snip//

For several years now I have been worried about the increasing right-wing views that I have noticed in my demographic (white suburban women). Before 2016, I always thought of Nazis as mainly historical villains that belonged in Indiana Jones movies or old news reels or the sad stories my grandfather told me. Now, however, as the last Holocaust survivors are dying, I am aware that fascism is creeping back into the world at large in terrifying ways.

I wanted to know how I could fight against the appallingly stupid yet dangerously widespread disinformation that is entrancing many of my friends and neighbors. Basic facts about COVID-19 are being dismissed by whole states as part of the “liberal mainstream corporate media.” Bodies from COVID victims were stacking up in ICUs and filling the morgues back in 2020, yet I was still called a “child abuser” by people on the street because I made my son wear a mask. Why are people going nuts? Why are people dismissing science and history in favor of conspiracy theories? And, most importantly, how could we nudge the nation in a saner direction?


snip//

“Some of these people literally do not believe white privilege exists because, according to them, the Union soldiers who fought in the Civil War were overwhelmingly white. (No, I don’t understand that argument either.)”


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"I Joined A Far-Right Group Of Moms. What I Witnessed Was Frightening." (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2021 OP
Perhaps more of us should do this, infiltrate the Klans and see what they are up to MagickMuffin Dec 2021 #1
Terrifying to bigots. milestogo Dec 2021 #2
It's a good idea... IrishAfricanAmerican Dec 2021 #5
These words are CRT... dchill Dec 2021 #19
Im sure MFM008 Dec 2021 #23
To your run of the mill MAGGAT, "equality" is a fighting word. PTWB Dec 2021 #29
The explanation, since Union soldiers were White, you can't claim all Whites are racist and since ShazamIam Dec 2021 #3
Regarding the last paragraph where the author asks questions Boomerproud Dec 2021 #4
Triggered doesn't necessarily mean "emotionally aroused". Caliman73 Dec 2021 #11
Yes! eom LittleGirl Dec 2021 #27
"a local right-wing mom's group"? I very much doubt that. Midnight Writer Dec 2021 #6
Exactly. Caliman73 Dec 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #7
Schools should just tell such parents PatSeg Dec 2021 #9
That would be great. Unfortunately the Boards cannot do that. Caliman73 Dec 2021 #13
I know PatSeg Dec 2021 #14
Totally agree. Caliman73 Dec 2021 #16
Most of the people I've known PatSeg Dec 2021 #22
Not told. Suggested as an option. paleotn Dec 2021 #26
So, okay then. BE pigheaded. Get sick and die. calimary Dec 2021 #24
Yes CNN interviewing these people mountain grammy Dec 2021 #32
... Solly Mack Dec 2021 #8
They feel ashamed crud Dec 2021 #10
They are shameless. I doubt they feel anything like shame. nt live love laugh Dec 2021 #35
The most alarming part of this article is that the New York Times and the BBC are Wingus Dingus Dec 2021 #15
Normal sanity don't attract eyeballs & ad bucks the way zealotry does. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #18
Equality is a fearsome concept to whiteys defending their privilege. Make them quake more. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #17
School Board meeting should be conducted on ZOOM Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #20
You can blame Rupert Murdoch and his children along with the late Roger Ailes. Ford_Prefect Dec 2021 #21
Don't forget Rush Limbaugh...torched America with their propaganda. eom LittleGirl Dec 2021 #30
Rush was a significant player in America. Murdoch spread it all over the planet and still does. Ford_Prefect Dec 2021 #34
Brainwashed morons. spanone Dec 2021 #25
And they've all got Orwellian names like "Moms for Liberty" paleotn Dec 2021 #28
Right wing women will overlook Trump's sexism and rapiness because they love his racism RAB910 Dec 2021 #31
My wife was invited to one misanthrope Dec 2021 #33
They're basically using CRT to advance racism. live love laugh Dec 2021 #36

MagickMuffin

(15,953 posts)
1. Perhaps more of us should do this, infiltrate the Klans and see what they are up to
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 01:45 PM
Dec 2021


Record the meetings and wage a "war" within their Klans.


“‘Equality,’ ‘diversity,’ ‘inclusion,’ ‘marginalization,’


TERRIFYING, I know!


ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
3. The explanation, since Union soldiers were White, you can't claim all Whites are racist and since
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 01:55 PM
Dec 2021

all Whites are not racist and since some Whites fought for freeing the slaves, it is evidence Whites don't have privilege because no one would fight to surrender privilege. It doesn't have to make sense if it can be shaped into something that sounds similar to a sentence.

Boomerproud

(7,964 posts)
4. Regarding the last paragraph where the author asks questions
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 01:57 PM
Dec 2021

about how we can counter this...were any answers given?if people are triggered by the word "equality " we are in deeper trouble than we know.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
11. Triggered doesn't necessarily mean "emotionally aroused".
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 02:50 PM
Dec 2021

It looks like, from context, that the right wing mom was saying that if any of the words on the list appear in their children's homework, should trigger the other moms to believe that CRT is being taught in their school and activate them to protest.

The reality is that all of those words are basic anti-racism and anti-discrimination language, not CRT. CRT is a methodology, a framework for examining the impact that racialized views has affected the legal system and other aspects of American life. It is complex, it is dense, and is only taught in law schools and some Master's level sociology and Social Work classes.

We are in trouble if we allow these small but very loud groups, who are not even grass roots (they are funded by right wing groups who want to perpetuate a culture war), to intimidate school boards. We have to also go to the board meetings and refute their nonsense.

Midnight Writer

(21,802 posts)
6. "a local right-wing mom's group"? I very much doubt that.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 02:01 PM
Dec 2021

More like a chapter of an astro-turfed disinformation campaign paid for by very rich agitators.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
12. Exactly.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 02:52 PM
Dec 2021

They may be setting up locally, but they are NOT organic at all. They are being funded by right wing groups and many of them, by evidence, are paid to go in and disrupt School Board meetings.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
9. Schools should just tell such parents
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 02:12 PM
Dec 2021

if they are so unhappy with the curriculum or the rules, they should pull their kids out of school and send them to a private school. No public school should have to put up with this crap. The ignorance and crass entitlement is stunning.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
13. That would be great. Unfortunately the Boards cannot do that.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 02:55 PM
Dec 2021

They can certainly refute the lies that these groups are telling, but during the Public Comment period, as long as the speaker is not threatening member directly or creating an imminently harmful environment, they have to be allowed to speak. Because everyone's taxes pay for the schools, they cannot be told to take their kid out of school.

What we, as parents with children in the same school, can do is say that for the Board or simply call out the crazy parents.

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
14. I know
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 03:03 PM
Dec 2021

I just get so frustrated with these people who think they can dictate how other parents' children should be educated. But seriously, if they disagree so strongly with school policies and programs, they should put their money where their mouth is and pull their kids out of public school. Of course, they won't do that, because they want to make a lot of noise and undoubtedly enjoy the attention. I really feel badly for their poor children.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
16. Totally agree.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 03:15 PM
Dec 2021

My parents wanted me to get a religious education so they put me in Catholic School after the first grade. I went through 11 years (through high school). I got a good secular education and a religious one. The secular education stuck but the religious one actually gave me the tools I needed to step away (much to my parents chagrin) but such is life.

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
22. Most of the people I've known
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 04:36 PM
Dec 2021

who attended Catholic schools, usually got a better education than public school kids. I was lucky as the schools I attended were among the best public schools in the country. We moved in the middle of junior year to Mississippi and that is when I realized what an incredible education I had gotten until then. What a stunning contrast.

I'd like to see these crazy Q-parents try their crap with a Catholic school. They'd be shown the door pretty quickly.

paleotn

(17,970 posts)
26. Not told. Suggested as an option.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 04:50 PM
Dec 2021

It's like deseg. in the 1970s all over again in my major city, mid-south hometown. Parents screamed and moaned, rolled around and eventually pulled their kids out and sent them to one of the quasi-religious, all white privates that were popping up like wheat in a Kansas field. The local school board had no choice, due to federal court order, and in their best Curly Bill imitation from the movie Tombstone said...."well........bye."

calimary

(81,500 posts)
24. So, okay then. BE pigheaded. Get sick and die.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 04:41 PM
Dec 2021

But don't expect any sympathy from me. If you won't take the wise and credibly-recommended advice about precautions, then I guess you reap the whirlwind.

I keep wondering - Seriously, WHAT is it that they don't understand about "YOU CAN DIE FROM THIS," and "COVID IS A DISEASE THAT KILLS!"???? I guess they're all still too busy paying attention to the reality SHOW, and not the real, actual, critical, and uncomfortably harsh REALITY.



I don't often quote from Scripture but 14 years of Catholic school pounded it into me. And I find myself inevitably wandering back to the part where Jesus advised his apostles that if they go out and preach and share the Good News, and people sneer and aren't receptive and reject the message and refuse to embrace it or listen or otherwise find salvation, then just shake the dirt off your sandals and head on down the road. Perhaps that may have been His way of recommending against wasting time throwing pearls before swine.

mountain grammy

(26,655 posts)
32. Yes CNN interviewing these people
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 05:47 PM
Dec 2021

like the article says women were interviewed by the NYT and the BBC.. Maybe. just maybe, they might try interviewing those who disagree with the wingnuts. Seems they'll stick a mic in front of any and all extremists, but your average Biden voting American is invisible to them. 81+ million Americans just don't exist.

Solly Mack

(90,787 posts)
8. ...
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 02:08 PM
Dec 2021

I always laugh when some right-winger says this or something along the same lines...

(Children) Given Freedom to Learn Without Coercion.”


Because that's exactly the opposite of what they want for all children and opposite of what they already do with their own children.









crud

(624 posts)
10. They feel ashamed
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 02:36 PM
Dec 2021

They hate democrats for making them feel ashamed. They hate Dems so much they are willing to die rather than get a vaccine, and maybe hate so much they are willing to kill also.

Wingus Dingus

(8,059 posts)
15. The most alarming part of this article is that the New York Times and the BBC are
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 03:13 PM
Dec 2021

interviewing, and thus elevating, these turds.

Ford_Prefect

(7,921 posts)
21. You can blame Rupert Murdoch and his children along with the late Roger Ailes.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 04:24 PM
Dec 2021

They have abused the American psyche towards just such madness. They have spread racist filth and autocratic memes all over the globe at great personal profit.

paleotn

(17,970 posts)
28. And they've all got Orwellian names like "Moms for Liberty"
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 04:52 PM
Dec 2021

which really means...let me shove my bullshit down your throat. Liberty my ass.

misanthrope

(7,428 posts)
33. My wife was invited to one
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 06:09 PM
Dec 2021

It was her sister's Bunco group. She said all they did was gossip, or spout socially and politically conservative palaver. Whenever they referred to Black people, they used the term "Democrats," especially for the few Blacks who attended their kids' Catholic school. Public school "just isn't done" in their groups.

When my wife mentioned the limitations on my income due to my means-tested access to Medicare, she was told that I "just have to know how to work the system" to get around that. When asked, none of them could explain how those work-arounds operate or any other details about it. In fact, none of them had first-hand experience with disability status whatsoever.

My wife never went back.

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