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JustAnotherGen

(31,834 posts)
1. Them or Me
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 02:32 PM
Dec 2021
A substantial portion of the American population feels an anger and despair that has made them susceptible to Trump’s swagger and lies.

It is too simplistic to attribute this solely to racism or xenophobia. America has harbored white supremacist and anti-immigrant sentiments since its founding. The despair Trump has channeled is more closely connected to a profound loss of identity, dignity and purpose, especially among Americans who have been left behind – without college degrees, without good jobs, in places that have been economically abandoned and disdained by much of the rest of the country.



It's called being black in America.

All of a sudden a black man became President, and Trump rose because he denigrated the man who highlighted the abject failures that the average Trump Voter is.

They were absolutely fine in the 50's, 60's, 70's - they loved them some racist Ray Gun. They happily went along with the Contract on America (black American Women - even Pat Buchanan admitted it)

As a matter of fact - Trump's 'welfare reform' doesn't require 'workfare' for rural white Americans.

I have tremendous respect for Robert Reich - but I'm not giving up an inch for those people. After they lift my SALT cap, implement voting rights, and address reparations for Jim Crow -

They can address how those 60% of Republicans he mentioned failed up. I'd like to know WHY they just expected everything to be handed to them? Because when you address that - you see at its root . . .

It IS white supremacy - not racism or xenophobia.

PS - my husband - a new American as of November 16 - didn't take their job. The blacksmith unesco certified restoration specialist and juried artist - started several businesses when he came here and sold them. White Male from Italy.

They could have TRIED. They didn't. They just 'expected'. If Giovanni could be successful - so could they. But he never 'expected' anything.

paleotn

(17,937 posts)
10. Agreed. The majority of the insurrectionists......
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:34 PM
Dec 2021

weren't poor people from the "hollers" of east Kentucky. Many were and some still are business owners of various sorts or skilled in some discipline or another. The overriding connection nearly every one of them share is they're white. It wasn't a collection of the "left behinds." It was a collection of "our people don't run everything anymore." And they do not want to share. No they do not. It's a perceived loss of economic and political power by those who stupidly believe that life is all a zero sum game. They're people who chaff at the idea that it's not hunky dory to be an asshole to women and minorities like their parents or grandparents got away with. They're people who think the world owes them ascendancy simply due to the color of their skin.

So no, saying it's driven by race, gender and national origin issues isn't being simplistic at all. It's the truth even Robert Reich apparently doesn't want to face.

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
2. Everybody's pretty bored with it now
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 02:38 PM
Dec 2021

They needed to hold media charged investigations right away

Everyone's moved on

doc03

(35,358 posts)
9. That's what I see too, the USA has a very short
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:27 PM
Dec 2021

memory. Except for real staunch Democrats it is a non issue. The DOJ should have taken this up on Jan 7th.

LakeArenal

(28,829 posts)
11. I don't think we are that bored. It's just nothing much has come from the investigations.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:43 PM
Dec 2021

Wait till they start handing out charges and indictments. We will all be glued.

Justice matters.

(6,937 posts)
13. Nothing much? Except "text messages" Meadows GAVE to the committee and THEN ran away SCARED.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:59 PM
Dec 2021
Except over 300 testimonies held behind closed doors that will come handy in order to air PUBLIC hearings sooner than later, hearings that will lead to criminal referrals with evidence the DOJ will just have to present to the Grand Jury for indictments.

LakeArenal

(28,829 posts)
18. Exactly what I said. Once the behind closed doors are open...
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:36 PM
Dec 2021

Things will gain much more interest.

I’m more interested in the moment you need to speak with bold and many capital letters. I’m not blind and I can obviously read. So try yelling your opinion somewhere else.

ancianita

(36,126 posts)
12. Irrelevant if they are. In a democracy they get to be as irrelevant as they wanna be. Democracy
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:58 PM
Dec 2021

isn't NCIS justicetainment. Rule of law proceeds apace and, while I don't know whether you agree or not, but I don't care who has "moved on."

Response to leftstreet (Reply #2)

Mad_Machine76

(24,422 posts)
17. I believe
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:05 PM
Dec 2021

the 1/6 committee is going to start holding more visible hearings in the coming months, showing more of what they've uncovered. Already, we are learning more and more about the shape of exactly what happened and the major players despite the obstruction being presented by many of participants, accomplices, sympathizers, et. al.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
6. A belligerent and narcissistic authoritarian has gained a powerful hold over a large 'minority'
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 03:55 PM
Dec 2021

of America.

Fixed!

"A belligerent and narcissistic authoritarian has gained a powerful hold over a large portion of America" - Robert Reich

Let's not give the minority equal footing to the vast majority who do not support the TFG or the GOP. WE ARE THE MAJORITY while THEY ARE THE MINORITY. Loud, belligerent or not, they are still in the minority, which is the whole point of republicanism supporting the abolishment of Democracy.

KS Toronado

(17,283 posts)
8. The "underlying problem" is the reQublicOn party
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:22 PM
Dec 2021

They tell "The BIG LIE" and continue telling small lies which prove the big lie is true,
but only covidiots believe them and they're killing them off.

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