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turbinetree

(24,709 posts)
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:02 PM Dec 2021

Watergate's John Dean perplexed DOJ hasn't arrested Peter Navarro: 'I don't get it'

By Bob Brigham
Published December 29, 2021

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Former Nixon White House counsel John Dean — who was disbarred for his role in the Watergate scandal — voiced his bewilderment that the Department of Justice has not yet criminally charged Peter Navarro.

"While the violence unfolded, Trump and Rudy pressed at least one GOP senator to try to delay the electoral count," Greg Sargent of The Washington Post reported. "It's clear the committee is looking at whether the attack became key to securing that delay. Recall Pence refused to be evacuated."

"Former Trump adviser Peter Navarro tells Daily Beast getting Republicans to object to Biden electors was designed to delay count to kick things back to states," he explained.

https://www.rawstory.com/peter-navarro-crimes/

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Watergate's John Dean perplexed DOJ hasn't arrested Peter Navarro: 'I don't get it' (Original Post) turbinetree Dec 2021 OP
Good question. jalan48 Dec 2021 #1
Like Rosenberg I don't believe for a second the lawless GQP would be staying mum about being brought uponit7771 Dec 2021 #2
I expect a lot of that JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #3
My question is why hasn't the alphabet crew questioned these assholes already ?! If they had I uponit7771 Dec 2021 #12
Dean's goal is too narrow, too short sighted. The Jan 6 SC has a dragnet in mind. ancianita Dec 2021 #4
Yes I agree. Trump and his cohorts have committed so many crimes Bev54 Dec 2021 #6
And dodging Trump appointees in the process......... Trump put a lot of folks in the DOJ. secondwind Dec 2021 #9
Really? how long did it take for Watergate, when they actually had Bev54 Dec 2021 #5
Excellent point. We all want the moment to be now. Not in good time, but now. erronis Dec 2021 #8
Less than a year for a special prosecutor (Cox) to be assigned to WG once the "Plumbers" were uponit7771 Dec 2021 #10
Aren't we all? AllyCat Dec 2021 #7
In the nearly 50 years since then gratuitous Dec 2021 #11
Garland really, really, really wants to avoid being labelled "partisan" NullTuples Dec 2021 #13
Republicans couldn't care less if they are called partisan world wide wally Dec 2021 #21
Not bringing any charges is just as partisan as bringing them Poiuyt Dec 2021 #25
But gosh, guys, there's a *process* that *has* to be followed! Silent3 Dec 2021 #14
Maybe the DOJ is waiting for a signed copy of the Navarro book to arrive on his doorstep? Jetheels Dec 2021 #15
Waiting for a select committee referral is my guess. gab13by13 Dec 2021 #17
The DOJ has its own investigators and prosecutors Poiuyt Dec 2021 #26
C'mon now, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author pecosbob Dec 2021 #22
Everyone knows our DoJ is world-renowned for putting rich, white, politically-connected men in jail pecosbob Dec 2021 #23
Because we just don't know... onecaliberal Dec 2021 #18
The comet heading for earth is fascism Mr. Ected Dec 2021 #19
They planned to overthrow the elected US government and install their own government. Coup! UCmeNdc Dec 2021 #20
Not sure how one can go after Navarro for seditious conspiracy onenote Dec 2021 #24

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
2. Like Rosenberg I don't believe for a second the lawless GQP would be staying mum about being brought
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:39 PM
Dec 2021

... in by the alphabet crew for questioning right now.

My understanding is its against the law to lie to the FBI, that's where the most of these assholes would have to go to jail if they break the law.

Plead the 5th all day long, opens them up to lawsuits IINM

There should be at least an arrest or questioning by now no?

tia

JustAnotherGen

(31,834 posts)
3. I expect a lot of that
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:02 PM
Dec 2021

To start in January

But - I want it to be folks seated in Congress and who are running again.

Navarro wouldn't be as sweet as say - Ron Johnson, Ted Cruz, Madison Cawthorne, Jim Jordan, Paul Gosar . . .

Like - shit is going to be really fun this winter!

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
12. My question is why hasn't the alphabet crew questioned these assholes already ?! If they had I
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:44 PM
Dec 2021

... don't believe for a second that many GQP minions would keep the alphabet crew questioning quiet ... there'd be too many of them.

Bev54

(10,060 posts)
6. Yes I agree. Trump and his cohorts have committed so many crimes
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:11 PM
Dec 2021

that takes time to investigate them all and then decide which ones they can prosecute successfully and if they wrap it all up in a Rico charge. The states are taking quite long to investigate their crimes, longer than the Garland has been there and I don't hear everyone screaming about them. Do people realize how bloody complex this is and how Garland has been dealing with shortages of highly qualified lawyers being held up in the senate confirmation hearings?

Bev54

(10,060 posts)
5. Really? how long did it take for Watergate, when they actually had
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:07 PM
Dec 2021

co-operating witnesses like John Dean and a full complement of specialized lawyers at the DOJ?

erronis

(15,313 posts)
8. Excellent point. We all want the moment to be now. Not in good time, but now.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:17 PM
Dec 2021

It's really hard to give the yearning public daily progress reports without giving the scoundrels warning about their fates.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
10. Less than a year for a special prosecutor (Cox) to be assigned to WG once the "Plumbers" were
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:28 PM
Dec 2021

... arrested at WG.

On the other hand

It took that senate 9 months to start hearings on WG while this congress has been investigating J6 for a while now.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. In the nearly 50 years since then
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:37 PM
Dec 2021

The Republicans have learned that denial, distraction, and delay are effective tools to stop investigations into their criminal activities. As little regard as I have for Nixon and his band of crooks, they at least had some vestigial conscience when it came to law-breaking, and enough residual respect for the system to play by the written and unwritten rules. Since that time, Republicans have found that doing the crime doesn't necessarily lead to doing the time for it.

One of the biggest crimes was the Iran/contra arms-for-hostages imbroglio. But just before the special counsel could try Caspar Weinberger, Elliott Abrams, and the rest of the gang at the beginning of 1993, George HW Bush pardoned the lot of them in the dead of night on Christmas Eve 1992 (seven weeks after he'd lost his bid for re-election). According to Walsh's final report, the trial would have put the lie to Bush's contention that he was "out of the loop" during Iran/contra. But they all got away with it. Why wouldn't you keep running the same play, as successful as Republicans have been to avoid culpability for their crimes against the country and humanity?

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
13. Garland really, really, really wants to avoid being labelled "partisan"
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:45 PM
Dec 2021

Even if it means letting Democracy get burned to the ground.

Poiuyt

(18,129 posts)
25. Not bringing any charges is just as partisan as bringing them
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 07:31 PM
Dec 2021

Claire McCaskill said the other day that Garland is in danger of going down as the worst AG in our country's history.

Silent3

(15,243 posts)
14. But gosh, guys, there's a *process* that *has* to be followed!
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:49 PM
Dec 2021

And unless that process is really, really slow the consequences would be WORSE than the end of democracy.

Poiuyt

(18,129 posts)
26. The DOJ has its own investigators and prosecutors
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 07:34 PM
Dec 2021

It doesn't need to wait for anything to get started. And maybe they have started. But a lot of people in Washington are asking the same question.

gab13by13

(21,375 posts)
16. C'mon now,
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:05 PM
Dec 2021

look how quickly they indicted Steve Bannon, took him right down, wait; what's that you say? Bannon is still doing his pod cast continuing the insurrection every damn day, pushing the Big Lie. Well he is going to have to pause his pod casts the end of July for a while when he goes on trial.

I see no evidence that the organizers of the coup have stopped planning their coup and the next coup they are planning won't need a mob.

We have 3 or 4 "blueprint for a coup" documents, in writing, out there for all to see, documents are pretty good evidence.

I hope that DOJ is paying attention when these coup traitors plan on pleading the 5th, as Trump said, only guilty people plead the 5th.

Response to gab13by13 (Reply #16)

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
23. Everyone knows our DoJ is world-renowned for putting rich, white, politically-connected men in jail
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 07:14 PM
Dec 2021

onenote

(42,723 posts)
24. Not sure how one can go after Navarro for seditious conspiracy
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 07:22 PM
Dec 2021

Unless one can show he sought the use of force to stop the certification. And Navarro's book doesn't show that.


"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

It is unlikely the courts would concur in a prosecution based only on an attempt to get members of Congress to object to the certification of various states' electors.



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