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tblue37

(65,457 posts)
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:20 PM Dec 2021

Doomsday update just dropped:



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@politicalplayer
Doomsday update just dropped:

"If Thwaites Glacier collapses, it opens the door for the rest of the West Antarctic ice sheet to slide into the sea. ... It’s not only goodbye Miami, but goodbye to virtually every low-lying coastal city in the world."

Holy shit.

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@RexChapman

“New data suggests a massive collapse of the ice shelf in as little as five years. “We are de
aling with an event that no human has ever witnessed,” says one scientist. “We have no analog for this.” Omg. twitter.com/ghostpanther/s…
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Doomsday update just dropped: (Original Post) tblue37 Dec 2021 OP
"Don't Look Up..." markie Dec 2021 #1
POTUSA - LOOK OUT! JanMichael Dec 2021 #11
+1000 nt Binkie The Clown Dec 2021 #17
My first thought. And it will play out exactly as it did in the movie. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #26
Just now finished Traildogbob Dec 2021 #40
the movie was a hoot markie Dec 2021 #44
Wow!!! Traildogbob Dec 2021 #59
Methinks it may take something of this magnitude cilla4progress Dec 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Jim__ Dec 2021 #6
And republicans will be against it. Count on that. brush Dec 2021 #10
In fact, they will weaponize it for profit and power. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #21
The wealthy refused to do anything about a global pandemic. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #19
And it will only happen after the fact,once Miami is gone. Kablooie Dec 2021 #72
Maybe I'll move from southern Kansas to northern Kansas, just to play it safe...nt wcmagumba Dec 2021 #3
Kansas may have beachfront property. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #23
That wouldn't be the case even if every bit of ice on earth were to melt. Dial H For Hero Dec 2021 #29
At least Kansas is safe. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #31
At least from sea levels! nt Gore1FL Dec 2021 #58
Right what the sea doesn't get, the GOP will. :( Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #65
More like what the drought will (get). myccrider Dec 2021 #75
All the flip side of the same coin. Drought, floods. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #77
Ayup! Agree 100% n/t myccrider Dec 2021 #78
"1. There's nothing we can do to stop this now. 2. Even if we could stop it, we wouldn't." tblue37 Dec 2021 #4
Don't Look Up !!! uponit7771 Dec 2021 #5
The Villages will become beach front property doc03 Dec 2021 #7
Well... I have done my own research.... LakeArenal Dec 2021 #8
Earth to Humans: Can you hear me now? OneBro Dec 2021 #9
"Nothingburger. This is just another lib conspiracy. Snorf." - Republicans, Inc. Achilleaze Dec 2021 #12
Whenever Someone Tells Me They're thinking of Moving to FL, I Tell Them Beetwasher. Dec 2021 #13
Definitely do not buy property in FL. roamer65 Dec 2021 #38
I wonder if the Mississippi River will back up and we'll have an ocean view? Frustratedlady Dec 2021 #14
DeSantis will blame it on Obama and Biden. Chainfire Dec 2021 #35
Venice, Amsterdam, Lower Manhattan, Ocean City NJ, NOLA ... bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #15
Will NYC and Long Island suffer the same fate as Florida? Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #16
It's really hard to find sites that describe this. I found this one: Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #27
How low are they? Retrograde Dec 2021 #30
Some of the water's edge around the Bronx... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #51
I'm thinking about my beloved Plum Island NY light house off the tip of L.I. Grasswire2 Dec 2021 #61
That's pretty cool, a touch of History... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #74
Meh. milestogo Dec 2021 #18
But you live quite near the Great Lakes. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #25
The Great Lakes aren't tidal Retrograde Dec 2021 #33
St L seaway connects to the Atlantic Ocean. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #36
Not likely. There are locks on the Saint Lawrence River that will stop upflow. roamer65 Dec 2021 #37
I think a full melt DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 2021 #54
If it gets warm enough to melt all the ice in the world, I feel we have alot more fwvinson Dec 2021 #69
Me too newdayneeded Dec 2021 #64
And with Republicans like ours, we're used to catastrophe. milestogo Dec 2021 #66
"I have a certain...affinity...for beachfront property" roamer65 Dec 2021 #20
Start dumping your ocean beachfront properties. roamer65 Dec 2021 #22
I'm sure Donald can save us! RKP5637 Dec 2021 #24
He'll be at Mar-a-Lago, underwater! SharonAnn Dec 2021 #28
God willing. Scrivener7 Dec 2021 #32
That, would be wonderful! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2021 #42
... markie Dec 2021 #46
no, he'll be re evaluating his properties onethatcares Dec 2021 #55
It is not all bad.... Chainfire Dec 2021 #34
I think it's important to read the article teach1st Dec 2021 #39
The people who call the shots are interested in short term profits Chainfire Dec 2021 #43
I have to admit teach1st Dec 2021 #47
tricky RussBLib Dec 2021 #41
Miami floods in a heavy rain, I have lived it; there is just no place for the water to go. Chainfire Dec 2021 #49
The Ministry for the Future (Kim Stanley Robinson) had the solution for this very problem. ancianita Dec 2021 #45
To put this into perspective - here is the worst case scenario Metaphorical Dec 2021 #48
Yikes! nt LAS14 Dec 2021 #76
... markie Dec 2021 #50
Also in the article: "But predicting the breakup of ice sheets and the Native Dec 2021 #52
Dr. Jason Box said we have 69 feet baked in Maggiemayhem Dec 2021 #53
Now this is a BFD! -- the most important issue of our time right now! ananda Dec 2021 #56
I have been hearing for years that roughly 50% of the world's population lives niyad Dec 2021 #57
This (ice shelf) is part of the worst case scenario of a 8 feet rise. That would be catastrophic. JanMichael Dec 2021 #60
But it's the first thing that could be prevented. It requires that all fossil drilling move down to ancianita Dec 2021 #68
It's way more than just a few waves rising in coastal areas FakeNoose Dec 2021 #62
day after tomrrow. AllaN01Bear Dec 2021 #63
Earth Emergency on PBS tonight. Check your tv schedule alfredo Dec 2021 #67
So long, it's been good to know ya' pecosbob Dec 2021 #70
Don't look up Meowmee Dec 2021 #71
A 65 cm rise in sea level possible Klaralven Dec 2021 #73

Traildogbob

(8,771 posts)
40. Just now finished
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:25 PM
Dec 2021

The movie. I loved it. The coastal MAGA’s will shoot their assault rifles at the ocean like Ron did at the Comet. Time share coastal owners are fucked. Ya can’t unload those properties.

markie

(22,756 posts)
44. the movie was a hoot
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:29 PM
Dec 2021

and a terror

the critics only saw a mirror

watched it Xmas eve with a houseguest who worked on the set... fun times

Traildogbob

(8,771 posts)
59. Wow!!!
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:32 PM
Dec 2021

On the set with all those stars. If I ever saw JLaw in person, I would pass out, bust my head on the floor and go in bliss. I really did enjoy it, I saw too much reality within the story. J Hill was such a good prick. Imagine if Jr was White House COS.

cilla4progress

(24,756 posts)
2. Methinks it may take something of this magnitude
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:26 PM
Dec 2021

for there to be any action.

Of course, I expect it will only be localized and short-lived.

SMDH

Response to cilla4progress (Reply #2)

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
19. The wealthy refused to do anything about a global pandemic.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:47 PM
Dec 2021

I don't think the flooding of cities will be any different.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
72. And it will only happen after the fact,once Miami is gone.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 08:25 PM
Dec 2021

And they will blame Democrats for not working harder to convince others to do something about it.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
29. That wouldn't be the case even if every bit of ice on earth were to melt.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:57 PM
Dec 2021

Such an event would raise sea levels approximately 230 feet. It would be the greatest disaster in human history bar none…but Kansas won’t be underwater.

myccrider

(484 posts)
75. More like what the drought will (get).
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 02:18 PM
Dec 2021

IIRC, the Great Plains are scheduled to get drier and drier as climate change proceeds, eventually becoming more desert-like. It’ll take decades, but it looks like the powers that be are going to drive us off that cliff, if it isn’t already too late due to feed-back loops being triggered by the already baked-in CO2 load.

All that’s also largely on the GOP’s head, too. (Resolving the crisis is the responsibility of every country, if primarily the industrialized ones, and most are not doing a lot better than the US. So actually not all the GOP’s fault. /pedantry)

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
77. All the flip side of the same coin. Drought, floods.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 02:26 PM
Dec 2021

Our corporate overlords do not want to pay for climate change prevention.

They will let it all go and make the people suffer and pay for any damage.
They believe themselves insulated.

tblue37

(65,457 posts)
4. "1. There's nothing we can do to stop this now. 2. Even if we could stop it, we wouldn't."
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:29 PM
Dec 2021


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1. There’s nothing we can do to stop this now.

2. Even if we could stop it, we wouldn’t. Covid was a much more urgent and immediate crisis, and you saw how the US responded to that.

LakeArenal

(28,829 posts)
8. Well... I have done my own research....
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:36 PM
Dec 2021

Found the melting of the glacier is fake news. And in fact, it will end the drought problem in the west.

Do not trust science!!!!!!

PS.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
9. Earth to Humans: Can you hear me now?
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:36 PM
Dec 2021

Of course, MAGAvangelicals will preach that the resulting floods are Gawd's wrath due to the "gay agenda" and declining tithes.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
12. "Nothingburger. This is just another lib conspiracy. Snorf." - Republicans, Inc.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:38 PM
Dec 2021

"We don't have to do shit. Skip the vax. Skip the mask. Skip the truth. Embrace The Big Lie. And for sure lie lie lie about climate change. Make money DRILL BABY DRILL and laugh at the worrywort libs. Tee hee." - Republicans, inc.

Beetwasher.

(2,981 posts)
13. Whenever Someone Tells Me They're thinking of Moving to FL, I Tell Them
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:41 PM
Dec 2021

That they should expect to be underwater in 15 years. Most of them think I'm joking. I'm not. Now I see I was wrong though. More like 5 years. Go figure.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
38. Definitely do not buy property in FL.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:18 PM
Dec 2021

Time to consider selling if it is beachfront property.

Rent or buy cheap mobile homes if you want to live down there.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
14. I wonder if the Mississippi River will back up and we'll have an ocean view?
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:44 PM
Dec 2021

Suppose DeSantis will wake up? Ivanka and Jared still building their mansion on that island or whatever it is?

Chainfire

(17,576 posts)
35. DeSantis will blame it on Obama and Biden.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:06 PM
Dec 2021

He would stand knee deep on Chrome Avenue and swear the flooding was fake. The worst part is his Fascist supporters would back him with a resounding, "What he said!"

bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
15. Venice, Amsterdam, Lower Manhattan, Ocean City NJ, NOLA ...
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:44 PM
Dec 2021

The insurance claims! Mass migration. Salt water inland.

Retrograde

(10,142 posts)
30. How low are they?
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 04:58 PM
Dec 2021

It depends on the local elevation. If the sea level world wide rises by about 3 m as projected, the low-lying parts will be flooded at high tide. For NYC, that's lower Manhattan - including the subways - parts of Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island (don't know about the Bronx).

Other places that will be impacted: San Francisco Bay will expand, flooding all that new development in San Mateo as well as parts of San Francisco and Oakland. Tokyo, Sydney, Hong Kong - all port cities will be affected.

electric_blue68

(14,923 posts)
51. Some of the water's edge around the Bronx...
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:53 PM
Dec 2021

Some of upper eastern, lowest eastern, possibly some of the lowest western area along the Harlem River north of the Washington Bridge (connects eastern Manhattan (Washington Hgts) with Western Bronx (Morris Hgts area).
Along the Bronx River.

A lot of the Bronx is higher.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
61. I'm thinking about my beloved Plum Island NY light house off the tip of L.I.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:46 PM
Dec 2021

My ancestors were keepers of that light for 43 years ending in 1903. I have never seen it in person. Access is restricted, still.

But I hoped to, one day.

[link:https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/plum-island-lighthouse-picture-id1032590986?k=6&m=1032590986&s=612x612&w=0&h=V_uLYhy_7dCcQumyAISdbcPhK5tySACHg-4iVVMf22M=|

electric_blue68

(14,923 posts)
74. That's pretty cool, a touch of History...
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 09:18 PM
Dec 2021

I put in Plum Island L.I. Topological Map (Topo Map) on Google and found it. 😁
(I'd been checking to see what topological areas where some friends live in the 5 Burroughs anyway earlier)
.What was neat was you had a choice of different maps. So if you want to see an areal view you can.

They said the Island averages around 33 ft.
The stock photo you posted it looks like it's above the 10 ft they possibly project in sea rise.

Yeah, I see it's still restricted because of the dangerous animal diseases facility north east of the light house (not too close).

Hopefully, depending on your travelability, and finances (and covid being seriousy reduced) you might consider gathering up documentation of your family's service, and contact what ever appropriate officials to see if you can get a permit to visit at some future point.
.
As my dad used to say "If you don't ask..." 👍

Retrograde

(10,142 posts)
33. The Great Lakes aren't tidal
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:02 PM
Dec 2021

for one thing, and the lowest of them is several hundred feet above sea level. I suppose heavy rainfall or snowfall could raise the water levels, or the sea level could rise so much that the St. Lawrence backs up into Lake Ontario and then up Niagara Falls into Erie, Huron, etc., but I don't think that's likely.

Irish_Dem

(47,184 posts)
36. St L seaway connects to the Atlantic Ocean.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:08 PM
Dec 2021

I think we don't yet know the full ramifications of the glacier collapse.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
37. Not likely. There are locks on the Saint Lawrence River that will stop upflow.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:10 PM
Dec 2021

They were built for shipping and water control.

The Great Lakes will become one of last bastions of plentiful fresh water, along with Lake Baikal in Siberia.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,925 posts)
54. I think a full melt
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:09 PM
Dec 2021

That is every bit of ice on the planet melted, it could swell Lake Ontario. I think Lake Ontario is only a 250-300ft above sea level and if I remember right, a total melt would raise water levels about that high. But that's as far as it would get(as far as the Great Lakes are concerned) since Lake Erie is 550-600ft above sea level and I think Huron, Michigan, and Superior are higher than that.

 

fwvinson

(488 posts)
69. If it gets warm enough to melt all the ice in the world, I feel we have alot more
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 07:16 PM
Dec 2021

problems to worry about than sea levels.

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
64. Me too
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:53 PM
Dec 2021

The bright side is, it'll be a good 4-5 hours less of a drive to the ocean! lol /Sarcasm, of course/

onethatcares

(16,177 posts)
55. no, he'll be re evaluating his properties
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:13 PM
Dec 2021

for tax purposes and applying to the Federal government for the big bucks.

Chainfire

(17,576 posts)
34. It is not all bad....
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:02 PM
Dec 2021

My property, currently inland, would suddenly become beachfront... The only thing in Miami that would survive is Mount Trashmore. The Keys would be know as Reef West. I put the glacier on my list of things to worry about right below the Fascists.

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
39. I think it's important to read the article
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:19 PM
Dec 2021

From what I can see, most of the tweets center around this Rolling Stone article:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/doomsday-glacier-thwaites-antarctica-climate-crisis-1273841/

Here you see the problem. Even predicting how the crackup of the ice shelf will impact the flow of the glacier is difficult to estimate.

And this is only one of the uncertainties that scientists face when trying to predict whether or not Miami will be underwater by 2100. There is further uncertainty in exactly where and when the ice will fracture, how much warm water will be pushed up beneath the glacier by changing winds and ocean currents, how the character of the bed the glacier rests on will speed up or slow down the glacier’s slide into the sea. Whether the bed is hard rock or muddy till can have a big impact on the velocity of the glacier, just as the texture of snow affects how fast you ski down a mountain. “Ice is alive,” says Pettit. “It moves and flows and breaks in ways that are difficult to anticipate.”

Paradoxically, the more scientists learn about what’s going on at Thwaites, the more divergent the latest climate models have become about its future. Consider the results of two models by highly respected scientists published side by side in Nature earlier this year. One model suggests that Thwaites stays fairly stable until temperatures rise above 2 C of warming. Then all hell breaks loose. Thwaites begins to fall into the sea like a line of dominoes pushed off a table and soon takes the rest of the West Antarctic ice sheet with it. And once the collapse begins, according to this model, it will be impossible to stop — at least on any human time scale. In a century or so, global sea levels could rise 10 feet, which would swamp South Florida and Bangladesh and many other low-lying regions of the world.

In the other model, global sea level rise only differs by 4½ inches between a 1.5 C global temperature rise and a 3 C temperature rise (which is a little above where we are headed with under current emissions scenarios). And much of that comes from increased melt in Greenland and mountain glaciers. As for Antarctica, the paper says explicitly: “No clear dependence on emissions scenario emerges for Antarctica.”


If Thwaites breaks up in five years (which seems like a worse-case scenario), it doesn't look like a sudden sea rise follows immediately. Still, we need to be working hard on reducing warming. Our children's and grandchildren's lives depend on it.

Chainfire

(17,576 posts)
43. The people who call the shots are interested in short term profits
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:28 PM
Dec 2021

not long term survival. People like Trump will find a way to profit from a one meter sea level rise. We can gnash our teeth and pull our hair about it until the cows come home and nothing meaningful will happen. Nature is going to take its course and the people who suffer the most will be the poor. The wealthy will always have their Berghof to retreat to and private armies to keep the trash out. The only thing that can save us is to strip the power from the Fascist before it is too damn late.

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
47. I have to admit
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:37 PM
Dec 2021

I'm not optimistic about a concentrated global effort to work this out. Maybe it's because I recently watched "Don't Look Up," but so far, humans, particularly the MAGA wing, is determined to gum up mitigation efforts in the name of profit and plain old wrong-headed stubbornness.

RussBLib

(9,027 posts)
41. tricky
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:26 PM
Dec 2021

People have been predicting catastrophe forever. That does not mean it will never happen.

I am torn. We own a home on South Padre Island, TX, which is about 7' above sea level. Miami is about 6' above sea level, officially. If a ton of sea ice melts or the sea level rises dramatically, we would obviously be fucked.

My family has a home inland about 80 miles west of us, but it is only about 100' above sea level. That might not even be enough.

This level of catastrophe is very difficult to imagine.

Chainfire

(17,576 posts)
49. Miami floods in a heavy rain, I have lived it; there is just no place for the water to go.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:38 PM
Dec 2021

The effects are not simply surveying off where the water will be if the sea rises two feet, or building a three foot seawall. The consequences are far wider than that. A two foot sea level rise would make it's mark during high tide events like hurricanes. Of course, what will happen is that the rest of the people of Florida (folks like me) will end up paying out the ass building sea walls to protect the Dons of the state.

ancianita

(36,126 posts)
45. The Ministry for the Future (Kim Stanley Robinson) had the solution for this very problem.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:30 PM
Dec 2021

Had fossil fuel companies coordinated and DONE IT, we'd get a few more years to stay below 2 degrees Centigrade.

Metaphorical

(1,604 posts)
48. To put this into perspective - here is the worst case scenario
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 05:37 PM
Dec 2021
https://vividmaps.com/the-world-with-a-70-meters-sea-level-rise/



Much of the Deep South disappears under the waves, New York, Chicago, Montreal, Vancouver, Washington DC, Boston, Los Angeles are partially submerged. Seattle turns into an archipelago. London, Paris, Venice, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Edinburgh, are partially submerged. Tokyo survives by dint of some very interesting engineering, but it too becomes a bunch of interconnected islands. Most of Western China, the most populated part, is gone. Sydney, a significant chunk of Brazil, most of Coastal India.

When Thwaites goes, the floodgates open. Part of the reason that sea rise has been so minimal thus far has been due to the fact that the glaciers that have melted have been over water. The worst effect of that is slowing the Gulf Stream, but we're already beginning to sea land-based glacial melting in Greenland, and there is significant evidence of melted ice creating water sheets underneath the glaciers in Antarctica, meaning that once a path opens, up, land-based glaciers will start sliding into the Antarctic Ocean very quickly.

Now, this is THE worst case. A ten-meter rise (which would be disastrous, and is at the very upper end of what I've heard for 2100). What I expect is that we'll see periods of stability with random disruptive events that will cause water levels to rise by several meters in a single decade over the course of the next millennium. This is nearly as bad, because there's no real way to tell how long those periods of stability are likely to be, but I suspect that the intervening collapses will be dramatic.




Native

(5,942 posts)
52. Also in the article: "But predicting the breakup of ice sheets and the
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:05 PM
Dec 2021

Implications for future sea level rise is fraught with uncertainty. Depending on various emissions scenarios... we could have as little as one foot of sea level rise by the end of the century."

niyad

(113,490 posts)
57. I have been hearing for years that roughly 50% of the world's population lives
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:27 PM
Dec 2021

within ten miles of a coast. Despite loving the ocean, I think that I will stay here at 6100 ft (even though this used to be an inland sea).

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
60. This (ice shelf) is part of the worst case scenario of a 8 feet rise. That would be catastrophic.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:43 PM
Dec 2021

"Several avenues of research, including emerging science on physical feedbacks in the Antarctic ice sheet (e.g., DeConto and Pollard 2016, Kopp et al. 201780,81) suggest that global average sea level rise exceeding 8 feet (2.5 m) by 2100 is physically plausible, although its probability cannot currently be assessed (see Sweet et al. 2017, Kopp et al. 201757,25)."

From the US National Climate Assessment.

https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/chapter/2/

This shows what 8 feet might do:

https://www.fastcompany.com/3067846/see-how-the-coming-8-feet-of-sea-level-rise-will-drown-your-city

ancianita

(36,126 posts)
68. But it's the first thing that could be prevented. It requires that all fossil drilling move down to
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 07:05 PM
Dec 2021

move operations down to the Antarctic and drill there -- far, far easier than where they drill right now, 24/7/365 -- set up the drills to run during all seasons. Which they could do. They would succeed in drilling down into the rock and re-anchoring the slipping major glaciers on Antarctica, which would take a few years. So what if it's in a novel. It's an untried solution that can buy us at least a decade and save us from wet light bulb temperatures that will kill millions upon millions.



FakeNoose

(32,680 posts)
62. It's way more than just a few waves rising in coastal areas
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:48 PM
Dec 2021

The additional rise of ocean levels everywhere would affect the North Atlantic current and probably stall it or possibly even reverse it. The North Atlantic current is what keeps Europe as a warm and moderate climate, but that would all change immediately. Europe will freeze overnight if that happens.

I'm not sure if this is enough to flood all of Manhattan and other eastern cities, but it would certainly cause major trouble in the subways and tunnels, probably bridges and other avenues of transportation. How will people even get off the island of Manhattan to save themselves if everything is flooded? Consider Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Wilmington, Charleston, Savannah, and there are many more cities but you get the idea. Large-scale rescue plans need to be devised for when this collapse occurs.

AllaN01Bear

(18,307 posts)
63. day after tomrrow.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:51 PM
Dec 2021

include the bay area. the sacramento valley will become swamp again. then we will have lake fresNO at the end of the valley.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
73. A 65 cm rise in sea level possible
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 08:57 PM
Dec 2021
Thwaites Glacier is “one of the largest, highest glaciers in Antarctica — it’s huge,” Ted Scambos, a glaciologist at the Boulder, Colo.–based Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, told reporters. Spanning 120 kilometers across, the glacier is roughly the size of Florida, and were the whole thing to fall into the ocean, it would raise sea levels by 65 centimeters, or more than two feet. Right now, its melting is responsible for about 4 percent of global sea level rise.


https://www.sciencenews.org/article/antarctica-thwaites-glacier-ice-shelf-collapse-climate-5-years
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