I see that the Jan 6 committee is "deferring" its request

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

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for documents connected to the date named insurrection. The excuse being given is "national security" and "executive privilege." I call bullshit on both of them, but once again stand by my conviction that we will be fortunate if any of these documents are turned over by the end of this decade.

Here's one link: https://kstp.com/politics/white-house-january-6-house-committee-agree-to-shield-some-documents/6344189/

Yeah, I know that the article seems to be giving a nuanced explanation of what's going on, but nowhere in it do I see that any documents have actually been turned over.

[Irish_Dem]

1. So how is 1/6 related to classified national security issues?

All we can do is speculate.

[JustAnotherGen]

5. Yeah -

If it was Trump - he would have tweeted it word for word because he's an idiot.

Biden is intelligent - he's not going to throw us under the bus by giving away the whole enchilada.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. It isn't. That's the point. The documents are related to security, but not necessarily to Jan 6

The committee feels that some are not necessary and others can be deferred (request held back) until further developments (other evidence obviates the need for them or a way is found to release enough of what is needed).

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. Biden made the call. . . . . nt

[JustAnotherGen]

3. I don't think its nuanced

I don't need to know who was steaming Trump's pants while he was wearing them the morning of the insurrection.

Or - if he made stinky in his pampers.

Or - if he gave the nuclear codes to Putin.

The agreement to keep some Trump-era records away from the committee is memorialized in a Dec. 16 letter from the White House counsel's office. It mostly shields records that do not involve the events of Jan. 6 but were covered by the committee's sweeping request for documents from the Trump White House about the events of that day.

Dozen of pages created Jan. 6 don't pertain to the assault on the Capitol. Other documents involve sensitive preparations and deliberations by the National Security Council. Biden's officials were worried that if those pages were turned over to Congress, that would set a troublesome precedent for the executive branch, no matter who is president.

Still other documents are highly classified and the White House asked Congress to work with the federal agencies that created them to discuss their release.

[gab13by13]

4. It's going to the Supreme Court,

all of the lower courts have denied Trump's executive privilege. The best case scenario is the SC doesn't take the case and it shouldn't, you know the old Republican meme, one president at a time. If the court takes the case then Democrats are going to have to request the SC to expedite its decision or the clock most likely will run out.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. This part is not

... not going to the Supreme Court.

tRump has nothing to do with this part; no court challenge, not in a position to decide to release or not release, not even in possession of these documents.

[gab13by13]

7. Time is of the essence,

and I think this move is the best way to move things along, don't give Trump any options to challenge.

[Takket]

8. article i read yesterday said the documents to be "shielded" had nothing to do with Jan 6

and the white house and committee were in agreement they were not needed. So no worries about anything incriminating being hidden. Biden wouldn't do that.

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. Nothing was deferred, the request was narrowed to ensure Trump's court challenge would fail. Nt

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

11. There's still no clear-cut date for turning documents over.

And the shielding still strikes me as bullshit.

Honestly, people in power would claim "National Security" over locating the public toilets if they could. Meanwhile, how long will it take for the archives to go through all the documents, decide which ones are okay to release, and then do so?

But more to the point, all I see here is yet another in the endless delay for turning over those documents.

[onenote]

12. Not so endless after all.

Apparently "endless" is three weeks.