There's Something About The Maxwell Verdict That Just Doesn't Set Well With Me.....

[global1]

Maxwell should go down - but what about all those pedophile men that took advantage of those young girls Epstein & Maxwell supplied to them.

They shouldn't be able to breathe easy today. They should go down as well and be held accountable.

[lapfog_1]

1. I'd be willing to give her a 10 year sentence

in exchange of a list of at least 100 names along with whatever proof she has...

A few we know about... but many more have been hinted at, it would be good if the beans were spilled.

[leftstreet]

2. They'll never face any consequences

Even if victims sue, they'll just settle quietly

[BlackSkimmer]

27. Yep. nt

[Me.]

3. What About Alex Acosta

who let Epstein off

[thucythucy]

20. My question as well.

What was behind that sweetheart deal, that enabled Epstein to continue his abuse?

And are there other instances of well connected predators who cut deals with that same office?

[Raine]

5. That's the way I feel, those pedophiles no matter how powerful or rich they are should be

exposed. Justice has not been served otherwise!

[dchill]

14. When was the last time justice mattered?

Provably, that is.

[Hoyt]

6. I'm sure authorities have made offers for cooperation, maybe she will listen now

that sentencing is next.

It appears no attempt was made on her life, even before she was arrested. Therefore, think it’s less likely Epstein was murdered for his knowledge. But I’m sure most think otherwise.

[NQAS]

7. That's what I was thinking earlier

Surely that information is known to prosecutors.

Statute of limitations? If not, then roll out the indictments.

I won’t hold my breath, though.

[bringthePaine]

8. can she do herself any good by rolling now?

[monkeyman1]

9. oh ya' - she would be very smart too run her gum's !

[Straw Man]

17. Yes, she could.

A deal before sentencing could mean that she doesn't have to die in prison. The thing is that they will probably need corroborating testimony from some of the victims, who may not be so keen to help her.

[Solly Mack]

10. I think the rapists should be named and charged with sex trafficking as well.

Raping those coerced and/or sold into sex trafficking is a form of aiding and abetting.

I know some people like to manufacture ambiguity when it comes to culpability, especially when it involves the rich, the powerful and the famous, or someone they like, but fact is if your money or fame or even your name is supporting sex trafficking (or protecting a sex trafficker), then you're just as guilty.

Some people equate the victims of sex trafficking with adult women who freely work in the sex trade. They overlook that one is rape, and the other is an agreed upon exchange between consenting adults.

I've read press articles which use the two interchangeably, treating them both as the same by claiming those who rape victims of sex trafficking are "buying a sex service". No - they are raping the victims of a sex trafficking operation. Just because they paid for it or it was part of a sex party gathering doesn't make it any less rape as long as the women and girls involved are being forced or coerced in any way.

Mind you, sex workers can be raped. No ambiguity about that either.

I also think a pimp is nothing more than a sex trafficker and should be treated as such. Offering protection at the threat of violence in exchange for taking your money and forcing you to prostitute yourself to earn money for the pimp (or face violence at the hands of the pimp) is also sex trafficking, as well as extortion. (Give me your money and sell your body for my benefit or I'll beat/kill you is extortion)

Those creeps who hang out at bus stops hoping to entice runways - the same. Sex traffickers.

Those who go after street kids for sex. They're kids. It's rape.

If you force them into having sex for your monetary benefit? You're a sex trafficker.

Parents who sell their children for sex should be charged with sex trafficking and the "buyer" should be charged with rape and aiding and abetting sex trafficking. It's not like they don't know sex with a minor is illegal. They know and do it anyway. Charge them to the fullest.

A John involved in an agreed upon exchange with a consenting adult who isn't being coerced/forced in any way and who has chosen to be a sex worker?

That's between you and the laws in your state.

I do consider anyone who takes advantage of someone in desperate need of money/food/a job/a promotion/or rent - whatever - by offering to fill the need in exchange for sex to be a sexual predator. Your creepy boss, co-worker, neighbor, landlord, etc., who offers to "help" if you would just play along.

Just because a predator doesn't see themselves that way doesn't mean they aren't a predator.

A predator is a predator is a predator no matter who they are, what they've accomplished, or who their family is or isn't.

[AlexSFCA]

11. her conviction automatically means those men are guilty

One would hope that those criminal cases are now being pursued. Isn’t maxwell’s conviction based on victims testimony? The victims identified the rapists without whom maxwell wouldn’t be convicted in the first place.

[not fooled]

12. Yeah, and not only

can the victims provide evidence, but didn't the FBI raid Epstein's NY townhouse and cart away loads of material? They seized photos etc. from his safes. And, apparently he didn't know he was going to be arrested (otherwise he would have stayed out of the U.S.), so it's unlikely he destroyed his blackmail material. What happened to all of that?

[W_HAMILTON]

19. Wrong.

Furthermore, if I remember correctly, the victims that testified in this case never testified that anyone other than Epstein (and Maxwell, to a lesser extent) sexually assaulted them.

[BigmanPigman]

13. The prosecutors know who the men are and

likely are getting together evidence for indictments. A few people on the cable news shows have said this. I hope they are right.

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

15. I agree 10000%. They should ALL go down irregardless of class, money, connections, etc. If they

paid for R.A.P.I.N.G. young girls, they should pay with their freedom, money & as far as I'm concerned, (I was raped EVERYDAY for a year by an uncle beginning when I was 5 years old), their LIVES!

[vlyons]

16. She has amother perjury trial ahead

maybe she will name names for consideration

[Emile]

18. I would imagine there are some very rich powerful men worried over her

conviction. But, in this predatory capitalistic country people with money can buy their way out of anything!

[Retired Engineer Bob]

21. Don't be silly 😜

Epstein is dead, Maxwell is going to jail. Nothing more to see here, move along.

[mcar]

22. She had the opportunity to work with prosecutors

She obviously thought she would get off. Perhaps she now will for a reduced sentence.

[FakeNoose]

23. When Epstein was arrested, the feds raided his house in the Virgin Islands

I believe that's where he stored a lot of his blackmail data - recordings, photos etc. Ghislaine Maxwell didn't have access to Epstein's datafiles and they parted company almost 10 years ago. I don't think we can assume that she was holding any kompromat-type evidence (such as photos or videos) like Epstein had. Surely she knew some of the names and possibly the dates, she knew how the girls were located and groomed because she participated in that. But I doubt that Maxwell did all this with the idea that she would blackmail people. Epstein had his own reasons, and she just went along with it to stay on his good side. She really thought he was going to marry her, I guess.

I believe it was 2004 when Epstein got his sweetheart deal from Alex Acosta, am I right? That's when Epstein was convicted on lesser charges and served jailtime. He went out of his way to shield her from any criminal charges. They had no contact with each other since that time, and Maxwell has stayed on the down-low. It's likely that Maxwell and Epstein made a private deal that neither would testify against or incriminate the other. At least that's the way it seems to me, and I haven't seen anything that disputes that notion.

Now that Ghislaine is convicted and on her way to prison for the rest of her life, maybe she will give evidence against Epstein and the other men who participated in the raping. Maybe ... but it doesn't seem so ... because she could have done it already.

If we ever learn anything, it will be from the evidence that was confiscated from Epstein's house in the Virgin Islands.

[leftstreet]

24. ...and none of that will ever see the light of day

If we every learn anything, it will be from the evidence that was confiscated from Epstein's house in the Virgin Islands.

Excellent summary

[FakeNoose]

25. You know who was the AG when the raid happened

Bill Barr

So what are the chances that it's all destroyed or buried?
- chances are damn good

[Lars39]

26. iirc, it was quite awhile before that house was secured.