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(15,144 posts)Stunning!
"On Wednesday, Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene advocated that people moving from Democratic-leaning states to Republican-leaning states should be temporarily barred from voting."
She's also talking about splitting up the country into Red vs. Blue states. Gee what could go wrong?
llashram
(6,265 posts)just are not smart enough to understand the consequence of their stupidity. Give them a 'white homeland' and forget about them. MEN, WOMEN AND THE CHILDREN THEY ARE MAKING JUST LIKE THEM. All willing to disavow their parents-caregivers racism and ignorance get a pass and free relocation to a place of their choosing. All others can be watched 24/7, easily in these times. Make sure these types are there also, leading their constituency of racists.
erronis
(15,328 posts)Let's see - who would control the military, the missile shields, the nuclear deterrent flying close to the USSR?
Imagine having a 2022 civil war with China, Russia and many others internal and external licking their lips at the eventual spoils.
DBoon
(22,396 posts)I wonder how they would have dealt with Hitler and WWII? Would fascism have defeated with the Confederacy ruling over large parts of North America? Would Hitler's Luftwaffe been able to park their planes in Virginia?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)I'm sure the Luftwaffe would have had bases there. The VA state motto, Sic Semper Tyrannis," has taken on a number of new meanings since it was adopted in 1776.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I love the stuff I read on here.
Celerity
(43,491 posts)the ties that bound the CSA and the British would have been very strong. Hitler would have been the enemy of both, IF he had even happened.
Czarist Russia was the only major European power that truly sided with the Union (they were in serious conflict with the Brits then in the Great Game in Asia) during the Civil War. They sent a sizable part of their navy to both US coasts and were greeted as heroes in NYC and San Francisco. The British tried to get the Mormons to set up a Western war front against the Union as well, but overall failed with that.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Do you know much about aviation?
DBoon
(22,396 posts)No I did not. So why the cheap shot?
A country official neutral in WWI (perhaps a surviving Confederacy) may have been willing to accommodate a German presence, similar to how an officially neutral Falangist Spain did - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_during_World_War_II
Any accommodation with the Nazis by a Confederate nation would have severely weakened the Allies.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,352 posts)even with slavery, they never had an economy or civil system that wasn't bolstered up by the north; and for the most part, that continues today - the confederate states receive more federal money than they send. The northern and blue states pay for it.
If the Confederacy had won the war - or even stalemated enough that they got to be a separate country - their economy would have failed within a generation. Or possibly England would have seen an easy opportunity to get some of their land back; or some other country would have seen a good opportunity to take some land.
Imagine all those southern racists being conquered by Mexico.
former9thward
(32,069 posts)They occur everyday.
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)ShazzieB
(16,497 posts)And yes, dangerous.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)That one person is totally disconnected from reality is not terribly troubling. The fact that she has thousands who support her is really a serious concern. That they have elected her to represent them in one of the most important jobs in the Republic is something that cannot be ignored. People who cherish their country and its freedoms should not be sleeping too well. Those good solid law-abiding Germans who failed to consider Hitler and his gang of crude thugs as a serious threat awaken from their slumber to find their nation destroyed by that madman.
leftieNanner
(15,144 posts)Voted to put TFG back in the White House!
If she is reelected next November, that will be very scary.
hadEnuf
(2,211 posts)Then issue an ultimatum to the red states, grant refuge to those who want to leave, then invade them and remove the fascists.
They are enemies of America. The Civil War was settled in 1865. They are now just fascist terrorists.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)Emile
(22,892 posts)Egads now days he would be a RINO!
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)What Gingrich lacked at the time was a full time, completely coordinated media ecosystem. They had Fox and some internet, but not what they have today. Not anything that infiltrated the mainstream media as frequently. Gingrich is just as despicable as the GOP today, he just didn't have as hospitable an environment to operate in as today.
KPN
(15,649 posts)of outside the norm is always tolerated and he pushed those limits to the max in his time. I have no doubt hed be right there with the rest of the gestapo if he were in office today and hed be vying for leadership to boot.
calimary
(81,443 posts)Loudest and most antagonistic and bullying and in-yer-face.
He set the new parameters. The new low. The new ruthless and bloodthirsty and combative.
And yeah, ol Newt-y almost looks tame and well-mannered compared with the depths to which some of these folks have sunk by now.
Nobody (or at least not many) talked openly of doing actual harm to people. Actual bodily harm and even death. That was evidently where the line was drawn.
Not anymore.
Polybius
(15,472 posts)Helen Chenoweth, Bob Dornan, and Bob Barr were far to the right of Newt.
jaxexpat
(6,847 posts)His game was to shame anybody who saw through him. The first to major player to lie on camera and double down in righteous outrage when called to account, he publicly accused his opposition of bad conduct which he, himself, did regularly and, as regularly, denied. He would often simply invent a historical "fact" to prove his point and none in the GOP were any wiser and the rest thought he would eventually burn down like McCarthy. The GOP began their inevitable devolution to their present low place when they refused to take action to remove him and his kind from their midst.
Is it really surprising that Trump actually believed Georgia's officials would just jump right in with his treason requests? After all Georgia spawned Gingritch.
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)but you did the perfect job on him. He is lower than the lowest and is probably pizzed that HE didn't get to be the "Leader-of-the-Pack" for this latest round of traitors.
keep_left
(1,790 posts)He was constantly denouncing his Democratic opponents as "communists", "un-American", etc. These were the days of Iran-Contra and the like. Gingrich pretty much invented the MTG style.
Polybius
(15,472 posts)Many on the right-wing have resented him since then.
llashram
(6,265 posts)above ANY consequence because she's .....in devolving amerika
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)I don't know why this is so hard.
Joinfortmill
(14,453 posts)Why she seems to think she's untouchable is a mystery.
Initech
(100,100 posts)As were a lot of the shithead squadron.
ancianita
(36,132 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)Republican party should be kicked out of government and be ineligible to run for any office anywhere.
Conservatism and capitalism leads to fascism eventually
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)on their asses. Now.
brooklynite
(94,719 posts)He knows what the result will be.
Meanwhile, a pithy tweet to his supporters doesnt accomplish anything.
GoodRaisin
(8,928 posts)Raising money from the dumbest of the dumb.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,760 posts)Response to 634-5789 (Original post)
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icankeepthisupallday
(1 post)Exactly what people like MTG want. She's a zany bit actor just like everyone else on the right that has jumped into the circus that is the Republican party. She has no pull, no respect and no future. Reacting to her and her ridiculious thoughts are probably the only thing that keeps her in Congress. Eventually people from Georgia are going to get tired enough of her to do something. Everyone keeps pointing their fingers at the extreme side of the right as an example of Fascism but failed to acknowledge they they are so far removed from reality that they are nothing more than free entertainment.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...folks from GA seem to have certain fondness for Congresspersons that engage in some public silliness.
SouthBayDem
(32,047 posts)to the shit spewed from Traitor Queen's Twitter
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)IMO she's a shining bad example of a human. I just wanted to add that Georgia folk seem to enjoy some antics from their reps. Ds from GA are a nice happy bunch. Rs not so much. Worked there for 2 years.
Scrivener7
(50,993 posts)the republiQans sit up and take note of her because she is getting under the skin of a liberal. That is the only thing they want, and this gives it to them.
PS: welcome to DU!
JustAnotherGen
(31,874 posts)Even with redistricting - it took Iowa 18 years to get rid of Steve King.
That said - I agree with you. But she's not going away for a long time.
She's a true believer who behaved horribly prior to being in the House.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)if you know what I mean.
Not talking about you. They said the same about trump while he went on to kill almost a million of us.
gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,874 posts)Just remember that. Its not for attention, or fund raising or to raise her profile.
She means it.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)they say...never mind.