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Ghislaine Maxwell Guilty VerdictGhislaine Maxwell is guilty. Is Prince Andrew next? On Wednesday, a jury convicted Maxwell the British socialite and longtime associate of disgraced billionaire Jeffrey Epstein of five of six charges related to sex trafficking. She is facing up to 65 years in prison. Lisa Bloom, an attorney who has represented several Epstein accusers, thinks that decision should be a warning for another famous associate of the late sex offender: I think Prince Andrew should be quaking in his royal boots, Bloom tells Rolling Stone. I think he should be concerned. Reckoning is coming for everyone who enabled Jeffrey Epstein and participated in his scheme.
A jury of four men and four women, who had started deliberating on Dec. 20, convicted Maxwell sex trafficking of a minor and transporting a minor with the intent of engaging in sexual activity, as well as three counts of conspiracy; she was acquitted of one count of enticing a minor to travel across state lines. Throughout the trial, four women testified that they had been sexually abused by Epstein and that Maxwell had facilitated the abuse, as Rolling Stone has previously reported.
In the wake of the guilty verdict, many across social media who had been following the high-profile case celebrated Maxwells downfall, viewing it as the uber-wealthy socialite receiving her comeuppance for decades of procuring young women for Epstein to abuse. I represent eight victims of Jeffrey Epstein, one of whom also has allegations against Ghislaine Maxwell. We are moved to tears, Bloom says. We just really cant believe it after all of these years. Shes had 60 years of freedom, and may she never walk free again.
That leaves the question as to what might happen with the case of Prince Andrew, who has been accused by alleged Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre of assaulting her when she was a young woman. Giuffre has claimed that Epstein trafficked her to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was just 17. Prince Andrew has denied these allegations, saying in an interview from earlier this year that he has no recollection of ever meeting Giuffre despite the existence of a now-famous photograph of the two of them together, telling the BBC, you cant prove whether or not that photograph is faked or not.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prince-andrew-quaking-royal-boots-003604643.html
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Even if you've done nothing wrong, just associating with him will likely make people wonder about your judgment.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)before anyone in the Royal family would be brought up on charges.
I'm as certain as I can be without saying the "100%" taboo.
Joinfortmill
(14,428 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
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I know plenty of Americans get giddy over them for some reason but c'mon.
Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Chellee
(2,097 posts)You cant expect to wield supreme executive power just cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, theyd put me away!
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)Their Royal bloodlines date back at least to William the Conqueror (1028-1087) and possibly back to Charlemagne (742) or further into antiquity.
Would someone die to protect that lineage from scandal? They'd be fighting each other to be first in line to protect a Queen with one foot in the grave and her family.
We may not understand royalty, but many in the British Isles
On edit: Comparing Arthurian legend and recorded royal history are two completely different, and ludicrous, things.
niyad
(113,329 posts)woman, at the time of the alleged assault. We need to keep in mind that, legally, all the alleged and proven victims were CHILDREN when these crimes were committed against them.
bahboo
(16,340 posts)prince fuckface may be in a world of hurt....good...
mopinko
(70,120 posts)assuming it's digital photo, it's all right there in the metadata.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)remember. It is very interesting he did not just say that. (I admit I don't remember the photo, so I take this comment back if the picture itself is troubling.)
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)the rest of Epstein's/Maxwell's list of perverted traffickers. I don't know who has the list
now but I sure hope everyone on it gets what they deserve.
Joinfortmill
(14,428 posts)Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Distraction.
FakeNoose
(32,641 posts)If we were talking about Charles, then yes I would agree that it could bring down the monarchy.
There may be a trial but Andrew would be tried in absentia. He'll never be remanded to US custody, are you kidding me? He'll stay hidden in one of Mum's castles and never show his face. For the record, Virginia Roberts Giuffre did NOT show for Maxwell's trial. Was that her choice? Or maybe the prosecutors didn't want to bring her in, I don't know. If Ms. Giuffre is unwilling to testify against Andrew, maybe they won't have a chance of convicting him anyway.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)and she's very vocal about what happened to her. I think she would show for a trial against Andrew. Don't think it was necessary in Maxwell's case to secure a conviction.
FakeNoose
(32,641 posts)New York Magazine has done some nice reporting and analysis on the Maxwell trial just in the last couple of days.
(link) https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-it-doesnt-matter-why-she-did-it.html
(link) https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/prince-andrew-epstein-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-latest-updates.html
(link) https://www.thecut.com/2021/12/virginia-giuffre-interview.html
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)what happens after she dies, who knows? I doubt he'll see any come-uppance for his past deeds, though: the British elite is more likely to close ranks to protect him, whatever they may personally think.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)A king Charles may not be kind to his brother, if only for the optics of it. Charles could financially cut him off. Especially if the queen passes away in the not so distant future and the Andrew scandal threatens to take attention from either the remembrance of the queen or the new King Charles.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)It might be somewhat less on "our" side, but I think most Democrats accept Bill Clinton's comment that he did not know anything of "that" side of Epstein or at least accept that Clinton did not take part in any debauchery. Meanwhile, we believe that Trump likely did rape the young girl who claimed he did. On the other side, from their comments on the Maxwell story - they immediately see Bill Clinton as guilty. Many appear to turn logic on its head with Trump even claiming his access Hollywood comments were all talk.
Like the me too stuff, where AFTER the first successful charges, many spoke of how that kind of behavior was common knowledge among people within the industry, the same is true for some top businessmen and some politicians. How many accounts of life working for Congress have mentioned that staffers shared information on which legislators to "not get in the elevator with". Even though there have been no charges against Gaetz or Cawthorn there are credible charges that they are predators - just as with Trump, accused by 28 women.
Raine
(30,540 posts)he'll draw all the fire since he's expendable. Andrew's a lesser royal and can easily be "punished" by disappearing from public life. People will get a feeling of satisfaction that one wealthy public person goes down. I have no sympathy for Andrew, he's scum but I'd like to see more then him be shamed and drug out from their hiding spots.
malaise
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Take that to the bank.
These people have perfected centuries of criminality.