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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,012 posts)
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:25 PM Dec 2021

'Prince Andrew Should Be Quaking in His Royal Boots': What's Next for the Rich and Famous After the

Ghislaine Maxwell Guilty Verdict

Ghislaine Maxwell is guilty. Is Prince Andrew next? On Wednesday, a jury convicted Maxwell — the British socialite and longtime associate of disgraced billionaire Jeffrey Epstein — of five of six charges related to sex trafficking. She is facing up to 65 years in prison. Lisa Bloom, an attorney who has represented several Epstein accusers, thinks that decision should be a warning for another famous associate of the late sex offender: “I think Prince Andrew should be quaking in his royal boots,” Bloom tells Rolling Stone. “I think he should be concerned. Reckoning is coming for everyone who enabled Jeffrey Epstein and participated in his scheme.”

A jury of four men and four women, who had started deliberating on Dec. 20, convicted Maxwell sex trafficking of a minor and transporting a minor with the intent of engaging in sexual activity, as well as three counts of conspiracy; she was acquitted of one count of enticing a minor to travel across state lines. Throughout the trial, four women testified that they had been sexually abused by Epstein and that Maxwell had facilitated the abuse, as Rolling Stone has previously reported.

In the wake of the guilty verdict, many across social media who had been following the high-profile case celebrated Maxwell’s downfall, viewing it as the uber-wealthy socialite receiving her comeuppance for decades of procuring young women for Epstein to abuse. “I represent eight victims of Jeffrey Epstein, one of whom also has allegations against Ghislaine Maxwell. We are moved to tears,” Bloom says. “We just really can’t believe it after all of these years. She’s had 60 years of freedom, and may she never walk free again.”

That leaves the question as to what might happen with the case of Prince Andrew, who has been accused by alleged Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre of assaulting her when she was a young woman. Giuffre has claimed that Epstein trafficked her to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was just 17. Prince Andrew has denied these allegations, saying in an interview from earlier this year that he has “no recollection of ever meeting” Giuffre — despite the existence of a now-famous photograph of the two of them together, telling the BBC, “you can’t prove whether or not that photograph is faked or not.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prince-andrew-quaking-royal-boots-003604643.html
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'Prince Andrew Should Be Quaking in His Royal Boots': What's Next for the Rich and Famous After the (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 OP
Anyone who has spent time around him should be nervous rpannier Dec 2021 #1
Maxwell would be "Epsteined"... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #2
Yup, cause the Crown is at risk. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #7
I'm probably naive but I have a hard time believing "the royal family" has that much pull. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2021 #9
Exactly. Chellee Dec 2021 #12
😱 ornotna Dec 2021 #15
Our history dates back about 250 years. SergeStorms Dec 2021 #13
And here is the framing again. Legally, Ms. Guiffre was a MINOR CHILD, not a young niyad Dec 2021 #3
I would imagine you can prove whether the photo is faked or not.... bahboo Dec 2021 #4
yeah, not even hard. admit it in evidence. mopinko Dec 2021 #16
Not to mention as a celerity, there are likely many people photographed with him he doesn't karynnj Dec 2021 #20
I've been focusing on Andrew lately too but let's not forget the long list of all of abqtommy Dec 2021 #5
Yup, he could single handedly bring down the Crown. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #6
I think this is why the British press goes after Harry and Meghan. Texaswitchy Dec 2021 #8
Prince Andrew would never be king or ruler, in any case FakeNoose Dec 2021 #10
She lives in Australia Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #18
I believe you're right - Roberts Giuffre was willing to testify but they didn't call her FakeNoose Dec 2021 #21
As long as his mother's alive he's fine Retrograde Dec 2021 #11
I wonder what his relationship is with Charles? Buckeyeblue Dec 2021 #19
As to the British "closing ranks", there is a lot of that in the US concerning top politicians karynnj Dec 2021 #22
IMO Prince Andrew is going to be the sacrifice while the politicians skate Raine Dec 2021 #14
Andrew will have a sudden accident or some rare disease and disappear from sight malaise Dec 2021 #17
This nt XanaDUer2 Dec 2021 #23

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
1. Anyone who has spent time around him should be nervous
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:33 PM
Dec 2021

Even if you've done nothing wrong, just associating with him will likely make people wonder about your judgment.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
2. Maxwell would be "Epsteined"...
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 10:44 PM
Dec 2021

before anyone in the Royal family would be brought up on charges.

I'm as certain as I can be without saying the "100%" taboo.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,840 posts)
9. I'm probably naive but I have a hard time believing "the royal family" has that much pull.
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:57 PM
Dec 2021

Last edited Fri Dec 31, 2021, 03:24 AM - Edit history (1)

I know plenty of Americans get giddy over them for some reason but c'mon.

“Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.”

Chellee

(2,097 posts)
12. Exactly.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 12:37 AM
Dec 2021

You can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
13. Our history dates back about 250 years.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 01:23 AM
Dec 2021

Their Royal bloodlines date back at least to William the Conqueror (1028-1087) and possibly back to Charlemagne (742) or further into antiquity.

Would someone die to protect that lineage from scandal? They'd be fighting each other to be first in line to protect a Queen with one foot in the grave and her family.

We may not understand royalty, but many in the British Isles

On edit: Comparing Arthurian legend and recorded royal history are two completely different, and ludicrous, things.

niyad

(113,329 posts)
3. And here is the framing again. Legally, Ms. Guiffre was a MINOR CHILD, not a young
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:35 PM
Dec 2021

woman, at the time of the alleged assault. We need to keep in mind that, legally, all the alleged and proven victims were CHILDREN when these crimes were committed against them.

bahboo

(16,340 posts)
4. I would imagine you can prove whether the photo is faked or not....
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:37 PM
Dec 2021

prince fuckface may be in a world of hurt....good...

mopinko

(70,120 posts)
16. yeah, not even hard. admit it in evidence.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 06:31 AM
Dec 2021

assuming it's digital photo, it's all right there in the metadata.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
20. Not to mention as a celerity, there are likely many people photographed with him he doesn't
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 11:53 AM
Dec 2021

remember. It is very interesting he did not just say that. (I admit I don't remember the photo, so I take this comment back if the picture itself is troubling.)

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. I've been focusing on Andrew lately too but let's not forget the long list of all of
Thu Dec 30, 2021, 11:39 PM
Dec 2021

the rest of Epstein's/Maxwell's list of perverted traffickers. I don't know who has the list
now but I sure hope everyone on it gets what they deserve.

FakeNoose

(32,641 posts)
10. Prince Andrew would never be king or ruler, in any case
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 12:19 AM
Dec 2021

If we were talking about Charles, then yes I would agree that it could bring down the monarchy.

There may be a trial but Andrew would be tried in absentia. He'll never be remanded to US custody, are you kidding me? He'll stay hidden in one of Mum's castles and never show his face. For the record, Virginia Roberts Giuffre did NOT show for Maxwell's trial. Was that her choice? Or maybe the prosecutors didn't want to bring her in, I don't know. If Ms. Giuffre is unwilling to testify against Andrew, maybe they won't have a chance of convicting him anyway.

Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
18. She lives in Australia
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 09:04 AM
Dec 2021

and she's very vocal about what happened to her. I think she would show for a trial against Andrew. Don't think it was necessary in Maxwell's case to secure a conviction.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
11. As long as his mother's alive he's fine
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 12:29 AM
Dec 2021

what happens after she dies, who knows? I doubt he'll see any come-uppance for his past deeds, though: the British elite is more likely to close ranks to protect him, whatever they may personally think.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
19. I wonder what his relationship is with Charles?
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 11:30 AM
Dec 2021

A king Charles may not be kind to his brother, if only for the optics of it. Charles could financially cut him off. Especially if the queen passes away in the not so distant future and the Andrew scandal threatens to take attention from either the remembrance of the queen or the new King Charles.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
22. As to the British "closing ranks", there is a lot of that in the US concerning top politicians
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 12:09 PM
Dec 2021

It might be somewhat less on "our" side, but I think most Democrats accept Bill Clinton's comment that he did not know anything of "that" side of Epstein or at least accept that Clinton did not take part in any debauchery. Meanwhile, we believe that Trump likely did rape the young girl who claimed he did. On the other side, from their comments on the Maxwell story - they immediately see Bill Clinton as guilty. Many appear to turn logic on its head with Trump even claiming his access Hollywood comments were all talk.

Like the me too stuff, where AFTER the first successful charges, many spoke of how that kind of behavior was common knowledge among people within the industry, the same is true for some top businessmen and some politicians. How many accounts of life working for Congress have mentioned that staffers shared information on which legislators to "not get in the elevator with". Even though there have been no charges against Gaetz or Cawthorn there are credible charges that they are predators - just as with Trump, accused by 28 women.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
14. IMO Prince Andrew is going to be the sacrifice while the politicians skate
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:27 AM
Dec 2021

he'll draw all the fire since he's expendable. Andrew's a lesser royal and can easily be "punished" by disappearing from public life. People will get a feeling of satisfaction that one wealthy public person goes down. I have no sympathy for Andrew, he's scum but I'd like to see more then him be shamed and drug out from their hiding spots.

malaise

(269,038 posts)
17. Andrew will have a sudden accident or some rare disease and disappear from sight
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 08:18 AM
Dec 2021

Last edited Fri Dec 31, 2021, 09:09 AM - Edit history (1)

Take that to the bank.
These people have perfected centuries of criminality.

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