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634-5789

(4,175 posts)
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 06:04 AM Dec 2021

13 months later: 71% of GQP STILL Believe Trump's Big Lie, Doubt Legitimacy of Biden's Election Win

Only six percent of GQP respondents acknowledged Biden as the rightful winner of the 2020 general election, while 15 percent said he “probably” is.

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/12/30/poll-nearly-75-of-republicans-believe-trumps-big-lie-doubt-legitimacy-of-bidens-election-win.html

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One Year Later, New UMass Amherst Poll Finds Continued National Political Division Over the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.

With 71% of Republicans viewing Joe Biden’s victory as illegitimate, they largely defend those who stormed the Capitol to disrupt his electoral certification.

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/12/30/poll-nearly-75-of-republicans-believe-trumps-big-lie-doubt-legitimacy-of-bidens-election-win.html

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13 months later: 71% of GQP STILL Believe Trump's Big Lie, Doubt Legitimacy of Biden's Election Win (Original Post) 634-5789 Dec 2021 OP
Here's some info from Wikipedia: U.S. voters are 31%Dem, 25%QOP, 41% Indie... abqtommy Dec 2021 #1
71% SAY that. They say lots of things they don't really believe. But, still, it's alarming Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #2
It's helpful to ask "Why?" kentuck Dec 2021 #3
I Don't Believe That Number ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #4
I reckon it is like going into a church and asking how many truly believe. Midnight Writer Dec 2021 #5
Which Way? ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #8
Not at all, Professor. The outsider I am referring to is the pollster. Midnight Writer Dec 2021 #9
Got Ya! ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #10
Many Trump voters function with their brain stems only. fightforfreedom Dec 2021 #6
Republicans lie to pollsters gulliver Dec 2021 #7

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
1. Here's some info from Wikipedia: U.S. voters are 31%Dem, 25%QOP, 41% Indie...
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 07:16 AM
Dec 2021

On December 17, 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 41% as Independent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_U.S._states

So 73% of the already-minority QOP is actually around 20% of U.S. voters. Excuse me if I'm not worried about this other than to think that we better get to work on getting out the
vote amongst the Majority of U.S. voters, the 41% of The Independents. And protecting
voting rights from the ratfucking QOP.

NOTE: When I searched for this info there were a lot of hits and I chose what works for
me. You're welcome to do the same.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
2. 71% SAY that. They say lots of things they don't really believe. But, still, it's alarming
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 07:16 AM
Dec 2021

Like they say Feed The Poor, because Jesus said it, not because they believe it.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
3. It's helpful to ask "Why?"
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 11:52 AM
Dec 2021

Is it because if they do not believe the Big Lie, they cannot rationalize the criminal act of January 6th? Therefore they rationalize the Big Lie.

ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
4. I Don't Believe That Number
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 11:57 AM
Dec 2021

The more than couple dozen R voters i know pretty well all believe Biden won.
One nutjob in town makes it clear he believes the lie.
That means that I'm so lucky that over 96% of those i know are in the sane 21%?
Hard to believe.
I'm going with "the poll is flawed".

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
5. I reckon it is like going into a church and asking how many truly believe.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 01:14 PM
Dec 2021

Not many would express their doubt, particularly to an outsider.

ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
8. Which Way?
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 02:08 PM
Dec 2021

Are you saying I don't know these people well enough?
We have very different politics, but I'm NOT an outsider in that group.
If these people thought the election was stolen, I don't see why they'd deny it to me.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
9. Not at all, Professor. The outsider I am referring to is the pollster.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 02:31 PM
Dec 2021

I see the conservative movement as a whole as a tribal phenomena, with its members desperate to fit in, to remain members in good standing.

To admit the doctrine is nonsense is a heresy that even the leaders dare not express.

ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
10. Got Ya!
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 02:57 PM
Dec 2021

Then we agree completely.
That is likely an inherent flaw in the poll which I already expected to exist.
Also, down thread someone mentioned people lying to pollsters to "own the libs". I guess I can see that as possible.

gulliver

(13,181 posts)
7. Republicans lie to pollsters
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 01:19 PM
Dec 2021

They don't "believe" Trump won. They know he lost. They say he won to own the libs through poll defiance.

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