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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow deep does the corruption go?
We already know that it reaches deep into the Congress, with the Republican traitors that attempted to overthrow an election. Almost the entire Republican Party has shown itself to be corrupt, in both the House and Senate.
Does it reach into the military? We know that the Pentagon was being used by the White House during the attack upon our Capitol. The Pentagon was corrupted. Some Generals are worried that there will be a military coup in 2024. The Defense Dept was corrupted.
But, nearly every Department of government was corrupted in the last 4 years, including the State Dept and Homeland Security. The CIA and FBI were politicized for the benefit of a wannabe dictator.
It also appears that the Supreme Court, the law of the land, has been corrupted.
Big Business has been corrupt forever. They have created laws to benefit themselves and broken laws for the same purpose.
The people need a big broom to clean up the mess.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)Of course, the military was corrupted as well.
The extent is not yet known.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)say the best thugs and criminals for his gang.
2naSalit
(86,636 posts)Only he called them Mexicans, kind like calling them coffee boys I guess.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)One pointed example: Alex Acosta. US Attorney given cabinet post by TFG.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-attorney-alex-acosta-showed-poor-judgment-giving/story?id=74178029
With the omicron flurry expected in Jan-Feb, and these upcoming disclosures, America is going to go through some things.
Rip the bandaid - let's go!
RICO anyone?
dchill
(38,501 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)😆
2naSalit
(86,636 posts)For years now. A sound RICO case will get most of them and their money too.
H2O Man
(73,558 posts)We need to use 2022 tosweep some of that corruption away.
KS Toronado
(17,247 posts)with their televised hearings exposing the R party as un American/traitors in attempting to overthrow our form of
Government, then we begin using this information against them going into the midterms which should give us
a big sweep.
fingers crossed
MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)but it would be a significant event if those hearings FINALLY got some action against these traitors.
CrispyQ
(36,470 posts)But how do you get the very people who benefit from the current system to change the current system? We're going to see more Kristin Sinema's. Win a senate seat & then flip off your constituents, take money from the opposing side, & catapult yourself into the millionaire category, all in six short years, who cares if you win a second term or not.
We have the best government money can buy. ~bumper sticker
usaf-vet
(6,186 posts)... to the young kids. SOUND good?
Never mind we will lose some good people. The hen houses are full of weasels.
And you won't see more Kristin Siema's if Congress isn't is the shortcut road to becoming millionaires.
Let the term-limited folk re-run in after five cycles in the house and three in the senate.
They will have to get out and find new jobs in the meantime.
drmeow
(5,018 posts)that term limits actually increase corruption rather than reducing it. The reality is that governing effectively has a learning curve and, the more turnover, the more likely the new elected officials will rely on lobbyists to "help" them make decisions. As they gain more experience and build relationships with other leaders groups like Alec lose their advantage.
Term limits don't stop them from becoming millionaires - in fact, term limits actually might push them to speed up the process as much as they can.
Term limits don't make them any more beholden to voters than the current situation, if anything it makes them less.
We need extreme laws about finances (i.e., ALL financial holdings for the candidate and all close relatives must be put in a blind trust on the date candidacy is declared and managed by someone they can't touch - anonymously?) and extermely draconian and swift penalties for violations (stripped of office and banned from ever holding office again?). A constitutional amendment (so the Nazi's on the court can't claim some bullshit about it being unconstitutional) putting limits on campaigning (length, money, flat out lying in ads, that sort of thing).
usaf-vet
(6,186 posts)Then read the daily news each day until the day he no longer has one ounce of political power left.
drmeow
(5,018 posts)My point is that the evidence is that term limits will make the current system worse.
I've been looking at history since Bush stole the election for Ronald Reagan - I don't need to limit myself to when Trump declared his intent to run and its aftermath.
usaf-vet
(6,186 posts)But I'm tired of hearing that we are going to dig ourselves out of those holes. The one current system has dug. All the while telling us to be patient, it will work out.
Bush V Gore 2000 was the first step to computerizing our voting system. A must if you want to confuse the poll workers that were not equipped to deal with a touchtone phone. All of a sudden it was bits and bytes of data. That was now the language of the day.
TeamProg
(6,135 posts)= Voter suppression.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)With the exception of the nearly extinct print media, the salaries of those feeding us the news is astronomical for a reason.
Escurumbele
(3,395 posts)Mike Flynn should have been recalled and the reason it has not happened is because there are other brass who may be on his side, of course his brother is one of those, he should also be investigated for the January 6, 2021 failed coup.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)A couple of years ago I found (on Facebook) the son of my lost cousin Roger. Roger had been adopted out of the family as a child, and I never knew what had happened to him, but found his son and learned the story.
Roger was career AF. And so is the son, retired now after a full career.
His FB comments were disturbing to me. He is lost to the side of those who want to tear it all down.
He lives in Texas, which might explain it all further.
Scary, and sad.