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Did not know she was a veteran. (Original Post) DURHAM D Dec 2021 OP
What an Amazing Life Cha Dec 2021 #1
Amen. DURHAM D Dec 2021 #4
Such an inspiration.. what a Cha Dec 2021 #5
Thought you might like this - DURHAM D Dec 2021 #6
Could have been one of her favorite lines... Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #7
That's a wonderful photo Cha Dec 2021 #13
She was genuinely anti-racism and supported Obama big time. She also stood up for black actors malaise Dec 2021 #17
Two awesome folks. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #28
My favorite quote - NSFW Fritz Walter Dec 2021 #11
it's a great quote Skittles Dec 2021 #48
Bea Arthur Was A Marine ItsjustMe Dec 2021 #2
Yip UTUSN Dec 2021 #33
Thanks, this is now my new thing of the day. StClone Jan 2022 #50
A real girl. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #3
"girl"? whathehell Dec 2021 #21
Ah, well, y'know... calimary Dec 2021 #24
I think I know what you mean, Calimary whathehell Jan 2022 #54
I had the privilege of interviewing her when I was still working. calimary Jan 2022 #57
That must have been a great experience.. whathehell Jan 2022 #59
Not too many, really. Every day was pretty doggone cool. calimary Jan 2022 #63
Wow..Sounds like a great job! whathehell Jan 2022 #64
Nope. My college didn't have a journalism department - at least back then. calimary Jan 2022 #65
Like Pinocchio. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #34
It's not the "real" or "genuine" whathehell Dec 2021 #35
I'm 62. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #36
As has been pointed out about the use of "girl" when talking about women: A girl niyad Dec 2021 #37
Okay. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #39
You're just fine in my books. Please keep on being yourself. erronis Jan 2022 #53
Uh, if you say so.. whathehell Dec 2021 #40
I apologize for using a word that caused offense. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2021 #45
I don't blame you. Abolishinist Dec 2021 #46
Happy New Year Cracklin Charlie Jan 2022 #49
Ha ha ha ha ha. LisaM Jan 2022 #52
Thank you, and a very Happy New Year to you as well! Abolishinist Jan 2022 #55
It would involve dimples and a sexual innuendo, I'm sure. LisaM Jan 2022 #58
She was EVERYthing. Multitalented, witty, funny, open-hearted, animal lover.... albacore Dec 2021 #8
And Darth Cheney Piasladic Jan 2022 #60
The best people most often are modest about their accomplishments and service. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #9
She was rocking that uniform! senseandsensibility Dec 2021 #10
Glad you said it first. She managed to be pretty regardless of her age. JanMichael Dec 2021 #29
RIP Betty, and thanks for the memories Hekate Dec 2021 #12
And all around great human being! burrowowl Dec 2021 #14
Betty was the Queen of America Mysterian Dec 2021 #15
Now the crown passes to TxGuitar Dec 2021 #18
I'll give that a thumbs up. KS Toronado Dec 2021 #25
Long Live Queen Dolly! Mysterian Jan 2022 #51
Amazing woman. yardwork Dec 2021 #16
Many hearts have another reason ChazII Dec 2021 #19
Still missing Bea Arthur, but damn, this hurts. DinahMoeHum Dec 2021 #20
2021's final 'F-U' to the world. SeattleVet Dec 2021 #22
A life well-lived. RIP, Ms Betty White. nt Ilsa Dec 2021 #23
It was the animals for me that made her so special Cozmo Dec 2021 #26
+1 MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #41
Oddly enough, she and Bob Barker were arch enemies TexasBushwhacker Dec 2021 #43
Sounds lee like a "they" thing and more of a "Bob" thing. JHB Jan 2022 #61
I agree TexasBushwhacker Jan 2022 #62
Me too! BigmanPigman Dec 2021 #44
Absolutely, I'm an animal lover too and her love and concern Raine Jan 2022 #56
Love this woman! Rest in peace, dear Betty. Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #27
Amazing woman. LoisB Dec 2021 #30
A real American legend. Salute and RIP. Evolve Dammit Dec 2021 #31
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Dec 2021 #32
She wasn't a military veteran sarge43 Dec 2021 #38
thank you Skittles Dec 2021 #47
Amazing MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #42

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
4. Amen.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 04:36 PM
Dec 2021

The amount of press coverage she is getting is amazing.

I think the flags should be lowered to half-mast.

Cha

(297,260 posts)
13. That's a wonderful photo
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:01 PM
Dec 2021

of Betty White & Pres Obama in the White House!

Rt TY!

Have you seen this sweet compilation of her over the years?💙

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16199603

malaise

(269,020 posts)
17. She was genuinely anti-racism and supported Obama big time. She also stood up for black actors
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:09 PM
Dec 2021

Loved her - genuinely authentic.

ItsjustMe

(11,230 posts)
2. Bea Arthur Was A Marine
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 04:35 PM
Dec 2021
https://reservenationalguard.com/entertainment/bea-arthur-marine-corps-service-evidence-of-badassery/

Despite public denial, service records show ‘The Golden Girls’ actress rose to the rank of staff sergeant in the Marine Corps Women's Reserve during World War II.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
50. Thanks, this is now my new thing of the day.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 10:59 AM
Jan 2022

White was well-known, to me, as a vet. Bea, I did not.

calimary

(81,295 posts)
24. Ah, well, y'know...
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:44 PM
Dec 2021

One might say she was "everybody's 'girl'." A genuine "America's Sweetheart."

I worked in entertainment coverage for years. Never heard a single word about her that wasn't complimentary at the least, and almost literally adoring at the most.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
54. I think I know what you mean, Calimary
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:53 PM
Jan 2022

She seems to have been a VERY nice person, and living to the age she did with her humor and "joi de vivre" intact is truly remarkable..Sure as hell hope I can do it he same!

calimary

(81,295 posts)
57. I had the privilege of interviewing her when I was still working.
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 01:41 AM
Jan 2022

Just charming! She loved gummy bears and pointed out a big glass container of them in her dressing room. “FRESH gummy bears!” She brought the container over and offered me some, and took a handful for herself. Then we did the interview.

How could you not love that woman? With or without gummy bears? Every time I eat some, I’ll think of her.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
59. That must have been a great experience..
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 12:38 PM
Jan 2022

She sounds very natural, very down to earth..Correct me if I'm wrong, but, in that field, I'm guessing you had many opposite experiences?

calimary

(81,295 posts)
63. Not too many, really. Every day was pretty doggone cool.
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 02:19 PM
Jan 2022

Had a few shitty bosses. Worked with a few backstabbed. That was treacherous going.

But the WORK - it was always the WORK. You had to go out and witness it, report on it (sometimes live on the spot) and then write about it.

In that job I was hired as an entertainment reporter. However, if I was the only reporter-type in the bureau late at night or on a weekend and there was an airplane crash at LAX or a highrise fire downtown, they’d send me to that, too.

But ordinarily my beat was all-things-entertainment, the studios, the films, the TV series and specials, the strikes, any breaking news - from casting to firings, from new babies to obits, arrests and trials and personal appearances and premieres and interview junkets and everything else, and every event and ceremony from the Oscars to some celeb getting their star on the “Walk of Fame.”

It was fun, but it was also hard work. I had three TV networks and a set group of studios to cover. But now? Shit - there are so many outlets to keep track of, I’m not sure who’s coming and going anymore.

When I was hired at the AP, they had one guy at the base of ops in Washington covering it all, and quickly realized they had to have somebody in L.A. That turned out to be me. But soon enough, they also realized it was such a big mouthful to try to chew through that it needed to be further. subdivided. So they kept me on the TV/prime time/feature film beat and added three more people to cover music: rock, R&B, and what they called “urban”. So I didn’t cover music-anything anymore. There were “specialists” too cover that end of things. Actually did me a favor, workload-wise.

I kept that gig til I retired because there were two new little people at home that I thought should get all my attention.

It was a wild ride while it happened, and a genuinely fun job! It was secure employment for the first time in my career. And it left me with a lot of cool stories to share - but only if/when somebody asks. I don’t like arbitrary name-dropping.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
64. Wow..Sounds like a great job!
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 06:53 AM
Jan 2022

I'm jealous!..The closest I ever got to entertainment, professionally, was a job at a record producer/distribution company in the 70's, and then later, a script reading internship (I was a college film major) at Tri- Star Productions in New York.

Neither, of course, was anything like yours..Were you a journalism major in college and/ or grad school?

I admit, Calimary, to being a bit 'starstruck', so if you'd like to share some of your stories, either here or by pm, I am all ears.

calimary

(81,295 posts)
65. Nope. My college didn't have a journalism department - at least back then.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 06:15 PM
Jan 2022

NOTHING really. There was one magazine-writing class that I took, but that was IT.

My "education" was of the hands-on alternative kind. Four years at the college radio station - a real honest-to-goodness FM station (okay, 10 watts, but it was FM, NOT carrier current or some other not-ready-for-airtime platform. It was a real live FM station, and until KCRW got an increase in power, and suddenly, we didn't reach all the way into Santa Ana anymore.

I had all four years of my college experience right there. Sometimes it was literally EVERY day. I hung out there and helped out there when I wasn't actually on the air. I helmed a ragtag "news department," mainly because none of the guys in leadership positions wanted it - they all wanted to be station manager and program director and music director because of all the free albums the record companies were giving out by the shovelful. I got experience in on-air broadcasting, engineering, production, and promotion. Streaking was a suddenly-big fad on campus. And - uh - well, er - somebody had to cover it, 'eh? And that was usually me!

During the summer between sophomore and junior year, it occurred to me that maybe - could I maybe, just maybe, do this for a living? After all, there weren't many women as actual on-air practitioners at the time. Let's just say a woman in the newsroom always had the ladies' room all to herself. My dad had a friend who was an account executive (translation: salesman) at one of the big AM stations in L.A., and told him about me. He suggested I look into the news department. That hadn't really occurred to me because initially, I wanted to be an FM rock deejay. But the openings started coming in news, and who was I to "fight city hall," 'eh?" And the openings all came because they had guys on staff already and recognized that they needed to add a woman to the ranks. After all, the women's movement nationally was starting to get noisier about the lack of equal opportunities for women in MANY different professions, not just broadcasting.

So basically, I went looking when they were looking. And I had "credentials," such as they were, including the summer internship they gave me in that first newsroom. And I got TONS of experience just in those six weeks - writing/re-writing the news for the anchors, spending a week with the City Hall reporter, spending a week with the nightside reporter ("...a body found in Echo Park..." ), they even put me on the air while out in the field - when the on-air deejay had some regularly-scheduled chit-chat with the nightside guy and the nightside guy thought it'd be fun to do a brief interview with ME. (Evidently absolutely NOTHING was going on that night and they had to fill the time SOME way!)

After that summer, they heard about it at the college station and as soon as fall arrived, they handed me the news directorship, with the 20-or-20 new freshmen who'd crowded into the first staff meeting with stars in their eyes (and ears!) and wanting to be the next B. Mitchell Reed. And from there I realized that maybe I could do this as a real job someday.

And Every Single Thing I did - became a line in my fledgeling resume. And it actually mattered - especially back then. All of my first actual on-air jobs (for which I got paid) came my way SPECIFICALLY because they were looking for a woman for that job. For example - they had a guy in the morning, doing the morning news, a guy in the afternoon, doing the afternoon news - and on weekends/fill-ins/vacation relief - ? Or they had the news guy in the morning but that was it, and they realized they needed somebody ready to fill in (or take on an afternoon-news shift they'd just opened up) who wasn't just one of the jocks. And that kind of vacancy-filler turned out to be me.

TIMING WAS EVERYTHING. And for me the timing was perfect. Mid-to-late 70s - news shops all over the dial started opening up to women. And I just happened to be right there, experienced, available, and ready to get rolling.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
34. Like Pinocchio.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 07:51 PM
Dec 2021

She’s a real girl, not a fake phony girl.

I call my girlfriends “girls”. I know their age. I wish Betty had been my girlfriend.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
35. It's not the "real" or "genuine"
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 08:23 PM
Dec 2021

that I"m questioning, but, if you're a Democrat, you must know that most women beyond a certain age (90 Somethings for sure ) object to being
regarded as "girls".

niyad

(113,318 posts)
37. As has been pointed out about the use of "girl" when talking about women: A girl
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 08:57 PM
Dec 2021

is a female child. To accept being called a girl is to accept being treated as a child.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
39. Okay.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 09:27 PM
Dec 2021

I will make sure I determine everyone’s age category before referring to their gender. I will call all my girlfriends womenfriends. No more “Hey, Girl” as a greeting. No more trips to the “little girls room”. Canasta night will not be “boys against the girls”.

I have been properly scorned for using a common word. Thanks, and Happy New Year.

erronis

(15,286 posts)
53. You're just fine in my books. Please keep on being yourself.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 03:56 PM
Jan 2022

I'm just a mid-70s boy, but I love the girls in my life (many older than me.)

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
45. I apologize for using a word that caused offense.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 10:37 PM
Dec 2021

But, I’m not spending any more time answering questions or defending myself.

Happy New Year

Abolishinist

(1,298 posts)
55. Thank you, and a very Happy New Year to you as well!
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 09:54 PM
Jan 2022

I wonder what 'Golden Girl' Betty White would have to say about this discussion... I imagine it would be QUITE entertaining!

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
58. It would involve dimples and a sexual innuendo, I'm sure.
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 08:09 AM
Jan 2022

I always loved her healthy attitude towards sex. Rock on, Betty.

albacore

(2,399 posts)
8. She was EVERYthing. Multitalented, witty, funny, open-hearted, animal lover....
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 04:49 PM
Dec 2021

When deaths like hers happen, I hate myself for thinking: "And yet trump still draws breath? There is no god/justice."

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
29. Glad you said it first. She managed to be pretty regardless of her age.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 06:35 PM
Dec 2021

Kind of weird in a way. She was a knock out in WWII and Sue Ann Nivens was one too in 70's. Go figure...

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
43. Oddly enough, she and Bob Barker were arch enemies
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 09:43 PM
Dec 2021

They are both animal lovers and animal rights activists. When they were going to expand and improve the elephant habitat at the LA Zoo for their 25 year old elephant, Billy, she supported it. Bob was adamant that zoos absolutely should not have elephants and tried to block the project. The project was approved and Bob considered her his "enemy" ever since. She offered an olive branch a few years ago, but he refused to talk to her.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
62. I agree
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jan 2022

I understand his point, but short of moving the elephant to a sanctuary (and that is stressful), I think enlarging and improving his habitat was the next best thing. It's not like he could be released into the wild.

BigmanPigman

(51,599 posts)
44. Me too!
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 10:22 PM
Dec 2021

Now she will be reunited with 99 years of pets who have already passed on as well as her husband Allen.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
56. Absolutely, I'm an animal lover too and her love and concern
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 10:51 PM
Jan 2022

for them really touched my heart.💓 A loss for the animals too with her leaving all of us. 💔

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
38. She wasn't a military veteran
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 09:22 PM
Dec 2021

The AWVS was a civilian organization of women volunteers who provided support services, such couriers, canteen workers, truck drivers, fire fighters and much more. They don't have the recognition they earned and deserved.

There are many ways to serve and she did.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
47. thank you
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 11:48 PM
Dec 2021

from what I understand, she was not enlisted, but certainly she supported the military during wartime

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