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Takket

(21,573 posts)
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:18 PM Dec 2021

Poll: Is this tweet racist?

This really rubbed me the wrong way.......... maybe I'm overreacting..... I leave it to the brilliance of DU to ponder.


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25 votes, 2 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, it is racist
2 (8%)
No, it is not racist
23 (92%)
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Poll: Is this tweet racist? (Original Post) Takket Dec 2021 OP
Simply mentioning someone's race isn't racist. Going negative with it would be. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2021 #1
The race reference is in REALLY poor taste IMHO, but not "racist". hlthe2b Dec 2021 #2
She's an African American comedian. Yoyoyo77 Dec 2021 #15
I think it's funny (she's a comedian). Also, if someone insists on taking her comment literally, ecstatic Dec 2021 #3
Well... Mike Nelson Dec 2021 #4
I read it as just the opposite. Bleacher Creature Dec 2021 #5
Are they? Ocelot II Dec 2021 #7
It is sad. I am sorry she feels that way. To state a black can be racist in words LizBeth Dec 2021 #6
I suspect it would be with all the races reversed Ron Obvious Dec 2021 #8
Races are not always seen as equal in this culture, so the "same standard" doesn't apply. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #11
I think it should Ron Obvious Dec 2021 #21
"Should" has very little to do with it. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #22
Racism is a power dynamic ismnotwasm Dec 2021 #9
Please....really? walkingman Dec 2021 #10
There's been a growing awareness of the rifts between women of different races within WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #12
So memorial tributes are the place to express such resentments? Really? No longer a tribute when hlthe2b Dec 2021 #16
Many people feel like there's never a good time to express such resentments. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #17
If someone professes to respect the person who died exploiting that death to do so is certainly not. hlthe2b Dec 2021 #18
Okay. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #19
It's annoying that "white" has become a default punchline in American humor when it's not a factor Bucky Dec 2021 #13
Why even mention race? Not necessary. brush Dec 2021 #14
Context is missing a bit. haele Dec 2021 #20
She's black Polybius Jan 2022 #24
Thanks. haele Jan 2022 #25
Whenever anyone asks if something is racist, I just say this: Polybius Jan 2022 #23
Would it be racist if "white" was replaced with any other race? Renew Deal Jan 2022 #26

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
2. The race reference is in REALLY poor taste IMHO, but not "racist".
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:23 PM
Dec 2021

Are we memorializing these wonderful women or only pointing out that they are the few ever-dwindling "acceptable white" ones as the tweet and its writer would suggest. It is a pretty ugly thing to accentuate, but...

Yoyoyo77

(268 posts)
15. She's an African American comedian.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 07:41 PM
Dec 2021

The implication is that she's upset that these particular white women have recently passed, since she felt some kind of connection to them in particular. It's seems to be a tribute to me.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
3. I think it's funny (she's a comedian). Also, if someone insists on taking her comment literally,
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:27 PM
Dec 2021

you still can't jump to conclusions because you don't know how long the "list of living white ladies" she supports is. There could be thousands of names on it for all we know.

Mike Nelson

(9,958 posts)
4. Well...
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:32 PM
Dec 2021

... I clicked "Pass" but it's probably not... not yet, anyway. I'm not sure Betty would be in complete approval of the term "ladies" either...

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
5. I read it as just the opposite.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:35 PM
Dec 2021

Isn't the point that most older white women are becoming increasingly conservative in contrast with their younger peers and women of color?

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
7. Are they?
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:56 PM
Dec 2021

Assuming facts not in evidence. One thing I noticed about the various protest marches was that there were a lot of old white women.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
6. It is sad. I am sorry she feels that way. To state a black can be racist in words
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 05:36 PM
Dec 2021

is to suggest she has power in a systematically white empowered world. Kinda like crying ... Oh the word for women picking on men. I forget it. Doesn't work when blacks or women are not the ones with the power.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
21. I think it should
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 09:39 PM
Dec 2021

Racism (or tribalism) is in all our DNA. Cramming on the "power dynamic" aspect to the simple definition of racism assures that only white people can be considered racist and I think that's profoundly unhelpful. I'm with MLK on this one.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
22. "Should" has very little to do with it.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 10:18 PM
Dec 2021
I'm with MLK on this one.


His was not a colorblind philosophy, as much as white people wish it had been.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
12. There's been a growing awareness of the rifts between women of different races within
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 06:51 PM
Dec 2021

feminism, with many Black women becoming more outspoken in their criticism of their white counterparts. It's fair criticism and I read this humorous comment in that context.

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
16. So memorial tributes are the place to express such resentments? Really? No longer a tribute when
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 07:48 PM
Dec 2021

that occurs IMO.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
17. Many people feel like there's never a good time to express such resentments.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 07:49 PM
Dec 2021

And to be clear: I don't know if that's Ray's perspective. There's been a lot of writing -- academic and on twitter -- about the issue, though.

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
18. If someone professes to respect the person who died exploiting that death to do so is certainly not.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 07:51 PM
Dec 2021

Bucky

(54,014 posts)
13. It's annoying that "white" has become a default punchline in American humor when it's not a factor
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 06:54 PM
Dec 2021

but it's not truly racist. It's just trite.

haele

(12,659 posts)
20. Context is missing a bit.
Fri Dec 31, 2021, 08:41 PM
Dec 2021

Is this poster white or black? Are they a comedian? Atre they talking about white actresses who used their power to promote racial equality - black and minority actors or other workers in Hollywood?

If the poster is racist, the ghost of Betty White will visit them tonight and slap the shit out of them.

Haele

haele

(12,659 posts)
25. Thanks.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:39 AM
Jan 2022

I'm not up.as much on pop culture as others are.
No, don't think her comment was racist.

Haele

Polybius

(15,423 posts)
23. Whenever anyone asks if something is racist, I just say this:
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 12:34 AM
Jan 2022

If you reversed white for black, would it be racist? If the answer is yes, then yes, it's racist. If the answer is no, then it isn't.

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