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https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-ELECTION/THREATS/mopanwmlkva/Trump supporters have waged a campaign of intimidation against the state and local officials who administer U.S. elections. This visual analysis explores hundreds of menacing messages - and explains why theyre difficult to counter.
gab13by13
(21,349 posts)He was there to explain how DOJ was going to work with local law enforcement to stop this horrid behavior against election and school board officials. Did you watch the hearing? Garland has this under control. Do I need the sarcasm thingy?
It's just Magat's expressing their freedom of speech, that's what every Republican Senator told Garland. They accused Garland of violating the 1st Amendment to which Garland responded, "DOJ is just going to make suggestions to local law enforcement."
Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death. Adolf Hitler
gab13by13
(21,349 posts)Just a paraphrase though; The only thing worse than the pure evil and death that Hitler brought upon the world was good people standing back and allowing it to happen.
Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)The idea goes back millennia
From Proverbs 24:
10 If you falter in a time of trouble,
how small is your strength!
11 Rescue those being led away to death;
hold back those staggering toward slaughter.
12 If you say, But we knew nothing about this,
does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who guards your life know it?
Will he not repay everyone according to what they have done?
gab13by13
(21,349 posts)mahina
(17,660 posts)Very clearly inciting people to violence. Thats the first time Ive ever heard him so I dont know if thats his daily product but if he is telling them to go do this. How is that legal?
gab13by13
(21,349 posts)Steve Bannon is doing the same thing on his pod cast yet I am told that Bannon has been held accountable.
Irish_Dem
(47,108 posts)educators, health care workers, etc.
It is a concerted effort to break down American institutions for the purpose of the GOP obtaining permanent power.
Also foreign interests very much want a greatly weakened American democracy.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)the heads in the sand on purpose corporate media in America will print it over and over as the article richly deserves.
Jetheels
(991 posts)during the weekly rallies and hourly toilet textings. And the only repercussions were free media press.
Lonestarblue
(9,998 posts)And while Republican leaders have been stoking violence and racial hatred for decades, it was Trump who put the culmination of that hatred on steroids. Threats of violence an death are not completely new, but the volume of them is. Trumps behaviorconstant lying, calling people nasty names, encouraging violence by police and white supremacists, shoving foreign leaders out of his way, openly stealing from taxpayers through his and his familys travel, telling people to break the law and he would pardon themopened the door to malicious behavior by his followers. Their hate and anger are eating then alive, but their refusal to learn any facts will keep that hate and anger alive. Like Jim Jones, Trump was able to mesmerize followers into believing in a myth that he was their savior. And now we have people who think no laws or social norms apply to them and they can do and say anything they want.
modrepub
(3,495 posts)Trolling seems to be the number 1 past time in this country. Social media has only amplified and encouraged this trend.
That said, all of the legions of RW masters of Troll are really only tapping into a large segment of the US population who are boxed into dead end jobs with long hours and no benefits and can't seem to help themselves to find a way out. Instead they are encouraged to blame their plight on immigrants, liberal elites, young professionals or any other imaginary scape goat (except themselves).
I ran across an article on Johny Cash (in the Atlantic I think) that pointed out this huge contradiction. Cash was a direct product of FDR New Deal programs but seemed to despise people who took government handouts. A large fraction of the current US Trolls are directly supported by government programs at some point in their lives (but don't seem to see the connection). It's like a self-loathing syndrome that they project onto others with reckless abandon.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #10)
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The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)I do believe that puke caused the hate to grow like no one else ever had.
He was a horrible American.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,433 posts)the spearhead.
Roger Ailes was equally responsible for the conditions of hate being incited in this country. It's hard to say who did the most damage.
Martin Eden
(12,869 posts)the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)The Sedition Day Insurrection would have to qualify under any criminal definition.
stopdiggin
(11,312 posts)Crimes or protected speech? A challenge for U.S. law
- snip - Building a criminal case for threatening messages is notoriously difficult.
The U.S. Constitutions First Amendment provides sweeping freedom-of-speech protections, even for statements that advocate violence. The Constitution does not, however, protect direct threats to a persons life or safety, legal scholars say.
The problem: the U.S. Supreme Court has not clearly defined a true threat, scholars say. That makes it difficult for police and prosecutors to know where to draw the line. Law enforcement officials often look for language or context that reflects a clear intent to act or instill fear, rather than simply suggesting a frightening outcome. For instance, many prosecutors would consider I will kill you as a clear threat, but you should die as legally protected speech.
- snip - Threats that instill fear dont necessarily merit prosecution under U.S. law. Of the 200 messages collected by Reuters that called for the death of an election staffer - often by hanging, or firing squad - only 66 could potentially be prosecuted under federal law, legal scholars said.
- snip - The review found four cases since November 2020 of people charged with threatening an election official or worker. In the same period, at least 14 people were prosecuted for threatening members of the U.S. Congress often with language strikingly similar to threats documented against election workers.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)causes fear in the target
why is that protected free speech?
And judges actually know how to objectively judge such things, thats why called Judges.
stopdiggin
(11,312 posts)(and perhaps occasional song and dance and side stepping - which courts have also been know to do on thorny issues) "Why is that protected speech?" Ask them! (although I agree with a fairly large umbrella of protection for the most part)
And -
Was that actually intended as a serious comment?
panfluteman
(2,065 posts)And it just might be the Orange Goon's most enduring (not endearing) contribution to American politics - we shall see.
Wake up, Merrick Garland, wake up!
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Reuters has documented more than 850 threatening and hostile messages aimed at election officials and staff related to the 2020 election. Virtually all expressed support for former President Donald Trump or echoed his debunked contention that the election was stolen. The messages spanned 30 jurisdictions in 16 states. They came via emails, voicemails, texts, letters and Internet posts.