John Dean: '1/6 investigations are moving faster than Watergate... 1/6 is FAR FROM OVER'

[bigtree]

John W. Dean @JohnWDean 10h
The 1/6 investigations are moving faster than Watergate. Mid-term 2022 elections will not change the focus of DOJ. The 2024 election will not change DOJ’s actions. 1/6 is FAR FROM OVER — of that I am certain. To think otherwise is to misunderstand the career lawyers at DOJ!

John W. Dean @JohnWDean 10h
It took 928 days to hold ALL the KEY players responsible for Watergate with the convictions of Nixon’s former attorney general, chief-of-staff, and top assistant on 01.01.1975. The 1/6 investigation is early. DOJ will give NO PASSES for the democracy harming crimes of 1/6.

John W. Dean @JohnWDean 10h
Criminal accountability for 1/6 is a BFD at DOJ. How do we know? It is America’s first former POTUS insurrection! It is the biggest investigation in DOJ’s history. If they don’t get it right the USA is finished. Criminal investigations aren’t televised. THEY’LL GET IT RIGHT.

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[secondwind]

1. Heck YES!!!!!!!

[olegramps]

57. There was a major-major difference. Republicans joined the condemnation and forced resignation.

Today only a handful have dared to oppose Trump and have been met with condemnation by their fellow member and are being driven from the Party. Nixon's impeachment was assured by his own Party members and he wisely resigned.

[Hortensis]

63. Yes! Though noting that Repub voters rallied to Nixon and reelected him

in the middle of the Watergate investigation and scandal in a 49-state sweep.

You're entirely right of course about the ultimate role of Republicans in congress, a critical difference. But then also large portions of the right were demanding the criminal-in-chief and the probable socio/psychopaths (Dean's Conservatives without Conscience) he surrounded himself with be maintained in power.

[olegramps]

64. I will stick my neck out. I think very little of consequence with take place due to obstruction.

I sincerely hope and pray that his is not what will transpire. However, if Biden is left sitting in the White House with no viable congressional backing, he will not only be left solely alone; he will be seeing the end of his presidency.

Something catastrophic must come out of the hearings that cannot be marginalized by the powerful right-wing propaganda machine. What I am seeing today is an alarming increase in the major networks' attacks on Biden. The latest is his handling of the Omicron Covid. His actions far outstrip anything that Trump had done to halt the spread. I am not saying that he should not be questioned or criticized. But just what was the reaction of the press during Trump's disastrous leadership?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

2. But far far slower than the pace of the social media courtroom warriors...that's what really matters!

[SoCalDavidS]

3. This Is Not The 1970's.

And THIS repub party wouldn’t confront TFG like that one did to Nixon. THIS repub party embraces the criminal, and wants him back in office.

I’ll wait for accountability, but certainly not holding my breath until I see some. ANYTHING!

[brooklynite]

5. THIS Republicans party is not running the Government...

[BlueTsunami2018]

8. Not yet they're not.

A year from now they most likely will be. That’s how dumb this country is.

[onenote]

10. Even if they control Congress after the 2022 elections

They won't "control" the executive branch and won't be able to block DOJ from moving forward.

[LiberalFighter]

13. Thank you!

And with any luck go after some members of Congress for their participation.

[SoCalDavidS]

27. Again, I Very Much Hope To Be Wrong

I just don't see this DOJ going after TFG, nor members of Congress.

Merrick Garland is not Bill Barr. The latter probably would have done so had it been something done by the Obama administration.

[Eyeball_Kid]

35. Once the televised hearings begin,

the negative PR regarding Trump and his GOP enablers will be heavy and constant. I'm confident that the hearings AND the coming prosecutions against the organizers of the insurrection will have a devastating impact on the GOP and Trump. This ain't no foolin' around. The Dems will hold both Houses. The lid will be coming off the GOP Stench Bucket.

[Joinfortmill]

37. 👍

[2Gingersnaps]

55. Agreed. Once the information is given to the public, that will be the tell.

If the presently indifferent start paying attention. If those on the edge wake up and come back from the edge. TFG is planning to make a pre-emptive prouncement on Jan. 6 to try and water down what is coming his way. Nixon had a formidable election victory right before the ax fell. Dear God I hope this nation has enough senses left to come to when they are given the facts.

[Evolve Dammit]

32. I agree with your post. They are heavily armed, morally bankrupt, extremely angry and lockstep. n/t

[True Blue American]

58. It took a long time

For Republicans to confront Nixon. Did not happen over night!

[malaise]

4. Consequences are coming

Happy New Year big tree - and it will be happy- the slobfather is going down.

[bigtree]

9. love ya, malaise!

...this year will be pellucidly clear!

[malaise]

11. Bwaaaaah

[Evolve Dammit]

33. I could not hope more that you are right. I guess I have just lost faith in the "Rule of Law" which

is being subverted like I have never seen before. When I see decisions like Rittenhouse, the Slobfather escaping all consequences to date, Bannon, Flynn, etc. continuing to blatantly encourage the overthrow of our country, I wonder what will rise to the level of indictments and arrests? May it come as swiftly as possible.

[True Blue American]

60. Agree!

[malaise]

65. Back atyah

;hug:

[Leghorn21]

6. When Mr. Dean speaks, I'M LISTENING

Here is a rundown of all the criminals who have been arrested/charged, and there’s plenty more coming, I have no doubt:

https://seditiontracker.com/suspects/by_name

[erronis]

20. A great and growing list. I'll enjoy seeing some congress-critters on it soon.

And Bannon, Stone, ex-executive branch folks including some like Jarvanka.

[Pantagruel]

7. Our impatient brethren at DU

are not going to want to read this but Dean is a very credible source. DOJ pace appears slow to us but putting SO MANY cases together is a real challenge. Courts demand all charges be thoroughly documented, it takes a lot of time. So many seditionists, so little time.

[hlthe2b]

12. I wonder if there is very informal, subtle, non-specific, yet targeted communication going

out via "friend" channels to former DOJ or other trusted figures to try to calm the waters right now.

If so, Dean surely has past relationships, so, I find some comfort in his surety.

[Lucky Luciano]

14. I'll agree with that and I sincerely hope to eat crow for being impatient!

[Skittles]

39. after Fitmas and Mueller, Dems have an absolute right to feel impatient

seriously

[bucolic_frolic]

15. The bipartisan Jan 6 Committee ought to tell you something

(R) and (D) cooperating.

[Qutzupalotl]

16. Proud 45th rec.

[gab13by13]

17. Richard Nixon would not have resigned,

under today's climate. Republicans went to Nixon to demand his resignation. The spider web of Republican traitors, today, is much deeper than it was years ago. Today's Republican party has abandoned our democratic Constitutional Republic. Today's Supreme court is one of the worst courts in our nation's history. This court will side with autocracy.

[fescuerescue]

19. But also Nixon was to liberal to be a Republican under todays standards

Probably not a viable candidate for either party.

[peppertree]

25. +1

Today's GOP embodies the worst of Nixon - the paranoid need for control and and despotic tactics - without any of the best of Nixon.

[Poiuyt]

40. Mussolini would be too liberal to be a Republican under today's standards

[msfiddlestix]

43. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️

ain't that the effin truth!!!

[uponit7771]

68. I think this is technically true !!!

[fescuerescue]

18. With any luck, this will be all wrapped up by the end of the 2020's

should really help us in the 2032 election.

[lastlib]

21. Oh, I think we can be optimistic about 2029.....

...with Pres.-elect Harris about to be sworn in. And a bunch of the repugs in the Senate/House being sworn out....

[Sherman A1]

22. Believe it when I see it

not before.

[mcar]

23. Kick!

[BootinUp]

24. some days Im optimistic. nt

[Hekate]

26. These are great words of hope for a New Year's Day. John Dean, I salute you.

[modrepub]

28. Yawn...

I'm almost positive nothing but a sternly worded report will be generated. In the end it will only tell us what we already knew anyway.

Guess what? Less than a third of the country probably cares. I was going to say more but to be honest there's probably only about half of the eligible voters in this country that are even registered to vote. And of those, you'd be lucky if half of them show up for any election other than Presidential contests.

[calimary]

29. From your keyboard to God's screen, Mr. Dean!

Hoping for BIGTIME consequences for these fiends to be forced to face.

This needs to become a BIGTIME cautionary tale for future possible nogoodniks to have gnawing on the back of their minds.

[brooklynite]

30. I don't care...

Everyone seems to leap to the side of some analysis of pundits who’s opinion agrees with them. John Dean (Garland is acting!) knows nothing more that Lawrence Tribe (Garland isn’t acting!) does. I’ll wait for actual facts.

[bigtree]

34. he makes good points here

...about how long it took for prosecutions in Watergate.

His admonition that 'criminal investigations aren’t televised' is prescient and doesn't seem to be universally known. And his reminder that mid-term '2022 elections will not change the focus of DOJ' is a good tip for those who forget the Justice Dept. is still in charge of the investigations.

I don't really care that you already know these things. Far too many clamoring for the Justice Dept. to 'act' don't look to be taking these excellent points into account.

That's why I posted it here. Actual facts, Brooklynite.

Now, after graduating from law school, Tribe clerked for Justice Mathew Tobriner of the Supreme Court of California from 1966 to 1967, then for Justice Potter Stewart of the U.S. Supreme Court from 1967 to 1968. He then joined the Harvard Law School faculty as an assistant professor, receiving tenure in 1972. Among his law students and research assistants while on the faculty at Harvard have been President Barack Obama (a research assistant for over two years), Chief Justice John Roberts, Former D.C. Circuit Chief Judge and Attorney General Merrick Garland, and Associate Justice Elena Kagan. Other notable students of Tribe were U.S. Representative Adam Schiff, Chair of the House Intelligence Committee and lead manager for the first Impeachment of Donald Trump, and Jamie Raskin, lead manager for the second Donald Trump impeachment.

Dean (and most of us) could do worse than know as much as Tribe.

[Joinfortmill]

36. The voice of experience.

[LiberalFighter]

38. I agree. I posted a timeline a few days ago for Watergate.

And some were negative about it and stated it was not comparable.

Considering the number of people involved in the insurrection it takes time to gather the evidence. They would had not been able to gather it as fast as it is now compared to 1974. There is more evidence being gathered as well. And more witnesses or accomplices. They didn't have the technology during Watergate as they do now. Not just to locate it but to organize in a computerized filing system that allows more rapid searching.
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[Poiuyt]

41. I thought John Dean had been critical of the DOJ in the past?

Or am I thinking of someone else?

[SergeStorms]

45. That's what I thought too.

It seems to me he was questioning Garland and the DoJ not too long ago? I'll have to comb through a few months press releases to be sure.

[SergeStorms]

46. John Dean in October....

"Attorney John Dean encourages Merrick Garland to appoint a Special Counsel to investigate January 6 saying the Congressional Committee is NOT ENOUGH."

So there's that. I'll keep looking.

[Poiuyt]

47. Also, I believe Watergate prosecutors, Jill Wine-Banks and Nick Akerman, have called for the DOJ

to get it in gear.

[SergeStorms]

49. Perhaps a "little birdie"......

whispered something in his ear? It sure would be nice if that were the truth.

[ShazzieB]

42. Thanks for posting this, bigtree.

Unfortunately, some here are always going to react negatively to any suggestion that Garland/the DOJ might just possibly be doing something they don't personally know about. Me, I'm in the camp of "How about we wait and see what happens instead of making premature pronouncements that nothing will, based on no actual personal knowledge about what might be going on." But a lot of people seem to think that's a dumb idea for some reason. I've decided to give myself a break and stop trying to argue with them, but if I'm honest with myself, that kind of negativity really bugs me.

I am therefore very appreciative when a post like this pops up to remind me that I really am not the only one who hasn't completely given up. And when thoughts like this emanate from someone as knowledgeable as John Dean, I feel very encouraged indeed.

So, yeah, like I said, thanks!

[Mike Nelson]

44. Hmm...

... I know the DoJ is very secretive, but I think there would be some sign, by now, that they are on the case. I suspect they are waiting to see what happens with the Commission. If the House goes, the Commission will be ended. Then, Biden and/or the DoJ will take over the investigation. Meanwhile, the House will begin investigating Hunter, Afghanistan, and Kamala.

[OverBurn]

48. I'm very pessimistic about these things. We'll see. I sure hope Mr. Dean is right.

I do agree that if they don’t get it right the USA is finished. I hope it's not to late. The clowns are still basically running the circus. The right wing messages (crazy rants) still seem to pull more weight.

[Cosmocat]

61. Since then the consequences for R insanity has increasingly diminished

Iran Contra ... For what it was not much.
"Fitzmas."
Absolutely no accountability for lying the country into Iraq.
Mueller report and all the ties to Russia.

As noted, Hills emails, BHO not wearing a flagpin, all kinds of trifling nonsense Rs scream about gets more play.

[malthaussen]

52. He's right, of course. But that's not what has people worried.

The burning question in many minds is: will there be tangible results before the GOP takes control of Congress and ends the investigation? "Oh, that won't affect the DoJ" sounds nice, but it's an assertion the truth of which can only be known in the act.

-- Mal

[The Jungle 1]

53. Remember history

Lincoln was shot. Lee and Davis lived long lives.

[2Gingersnaps]

59. True, but Lincoln was martyred and Lee and Davis disgraced.

Thank God there was no electronic social media then. There has always been yellow journalism, how different the 20th century might have been without William Randolph Hearst? Rupert Murdoch, our young centuries bottom feeder equivalent.

[The Jungle 1]

67. Well maybe not

The south built statues and celebrated Lee and Davis. They still do!
I do not think that is a disgrace.

[2Gingersnaps]

54. LEGIT DOJ criminal investigations are not leaked like sieve.

Tells you everything you need to know about the "Whitewater investigations" "Benghazi" and all the other political witch hunts for the past thirty years. To James Comey's everlasting shame and regret, that is what made the "her emails" announcement so egregious. Bet he wishes he could take that one back.

[Lettuce Be]

56. This absolutely. Takes time to get it right

Everyone yelling that it isn't happening fast enough has never been in a lawsuit. My father's easy estate still took two years. You can be sure they are working to make sure this is done correctly, and I love there are NO LEAKS from this administration (at least to-date, or does that need to be qualified to "no serious leaks?", alas, I stand by no leaks).

[True Blue American]

62. Jonah Goldberg was on MTP this morning

Said Republicans had been feeding pieces of themselves to the alligator for a long time. Destroying their lives, their reputations.

Cheney’s daughter and now Lucianne’s Son!

What is the world coming to?

[burrowowl]

66. Thanks for the John Dean post!