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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDerek Chauvin leading lonely 'dismal' life behind bars after George Floyd murder conviction: report
Raw StoryChauvin, whose trial and conviction became the focus of the country after years of white police officers walking away after killing innocent Black suspects, is currently being held inside the Minnesota Correctional Facility-Oak Park Heights while awaiting trial on federal charges.
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The former police officer has been locked up for eight months since his conviction, with TMZ now reporting, "He's got surveillance cameras on his every move, and the prison staff checks on him every 30 mins."
According to the report, a contact within the facility explained that "Chauvin remains isolated, without job opportunities, educational programs or contact with other inmates. Not only that ... he showers, eats, goes to the bathroom and sleeps all in the same cell. We're told he gets about an hour each day outside his cell for exercise."
Sneederbunk
(14,291 posts)are quite upbeat and enjoying the stay.
PCIntern
(25,553 posts)Oh right
hes DEAD.
On Mr Lonelys whim. I guess the smirk is gone from shitheads face while he hopelessly counts the days
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)malaise
(269,023 posts)Happy New Year!
PCIntern
(25,553 posts)ColinC
(8,300 posts)Are likely similar to the circumstances that made him a sociopathic bully and killer.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)His condition cannot be cured, with kindness or otherwise. All society can do is stop him, remove him, away from his ability to harm others.
I will never forget the look on his face while he killed.
MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)THAT is the picture everybody should see anytime they talk about pity, leniency, parole, pardon, or any other idea that the murderer deserves anything less than what he got!
ColinC
(8,300 posts)But if we want these kinds of things to change in the long term (ie needless murders by law enforcement), we need to start looking at law enforcement and corrections in a compassionate way. Believing that law breakers deserve to be treated with cruelty is what lost the life of a good man in the first place.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)There is nothing you can do to stop me.
Taunting.
And he stayed on Mr Floyd until he was not only dead but dead past the point where he could be medically revived.
Brain dead.
John Ludi
(589 posts)is kneeling on his neck until he dies. There is that.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)mucifer
(23,547 posts)niyad
(113,323 posts)brooklynite
(94,585 posts)Plenty of folks here complain about the unfairness of prison isolation and its psychological impacts on inmates. They should apply the same principles to every prisoner, regardless of the crime.
niyad
(113,323 posts)made it seem that he was somehow unique in this.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)However, it may be that these conditions (or ones close to them) are required for someone like Chauvin ... basically this situation is applied to keep a white ex-cop who's in jail for killing a black person ... safe, not to punish him directly.
I would bet if you asked him if he wanted to go to Gen Pop, he'd be like 'yah, no thanks'.
Sucky as it probably is, he probably considers it something of a privilege.
So there's that.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)Ocelot II
(115,719 posts)as a result of which he will be moved to a federal prison, which will suck somewhat less even though he'll have a longer sentence.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)Ocelot II
(115,719 posts)brooklynite
(94,585 posts)Once hes in prison, theres no logical reason to move him until his State sentence is over.
Ocelot II
(115,719 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Ocelot II
(115,719 posts)though either one would do.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Blue Owl
(50,393 posts)Serves that fucker right.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Beakybird
(3,333 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(3,817 posts)You spent kneeling on George Floyds neck, this was the life choice you were making, Derek.
Aristus
(66,380 posts)Was he expecting a cheese platter and a nice dry Chardonnay?
ColinC
(8,300 posts)It should be about repairing the psyches that got people there in the first place. Not reinforcing it.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)The ranks of CEOs and politicians are filled with an inordinate number of sociopaths, from what Ive read. If they break the rules theyre not sorry at all. Its all just a game.
You may, if you choose, work to improve the prison system overall. Get rid of for-profit prisons, which are unaccountable to anyone but their shareholders, afaict. Public prisons, otoh, are ultimately accountable to us.
Engage in prison ministry or education, if you choose, but be aware that it is dangerous work.
Or you can just pray for his tiny shriveled soul.
Just dont kid yourself that his psyche can be repaired.
ColinC
(8,300 posts)Not improves it. This person is likely going to be out of prison eventually. Putting him in a more traumatic situation for decades isn't going to help society in any way when he gets out.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)
and entertainment. Paper and pencil. Books were traditionally available to prisoners.
As for his isolation, thats for his own safety. Theres two ways to go in the general prison population: one is for him to get killed pretty fast by fellow prisoners who hate cops like him, and the other is for him to join a gang of like-minded white nationalists some of whom will leave prison someday.
ColinC
(8,300 posts)Which is essentially what solitary confinement is. Being cruel to cruel people really doesn't make us any better than those people. It makes us a sick society addicted to cruelty.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/solitary-confinement-by-any-other-name-is-still-torture-149670
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)an ex-cop? I know that some States have laws that give ex-law enforcement extra protection in prison.
Personally, I believe that they belong in the general population, like the rest of the prisoners.
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,492 posts)It wont be a bother for long.
marie999
(3,334 posts)I am sure there are plenty of White supremacists who would protect him. It's not like he was a pedophile.
bedazzled
(1,761 posts)So what's for dinner? Stouffers lasagna. Garlic bread. Asparagus.
Life's good! Full of gratitude.
Walleye
(31,027 posts)bedazzled
(1,761 posts)We only have such fine fare on holidays!
Enjoy!
Wonder what old george is having? SOS maybe. My husband's least favorite from the military
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Love that stuff.
In particular the 'Meat Lovers' version, which adds Italian Sausage, and has a slightly richer sauce (or at least it seems so). But the regular one is damn good too.
Not a ton of frozen food I really like, but that stuff is legit!
You know, I bet Chauvin would KILL for a Stouffers Lasagna right now ...
bedazzled
(1,761 posts)As for chauvin, i hope he never enjoys another day in his life.
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Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)Do we get this kind of reporting on the other inmates in custody?
Since it is TMZ reporting, I guess Chauvin has entered celebrity status. Are people actually wanting news about this guy?
bedazzled
(1,761 posts)But glad to hear he is not happy. Wish i was a better person.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)Just one hour out of his cell each day...
If he was having problems before, this makes it much worse.
Hate to be a bleeding heart for a killer cop, but there has to be a better way.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Can only have so many different levels of supervision/isolation without it getting really costly to build and staff ... is my guess.
Goonch
(3,608 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Takket
(21,573 posts)Chainfire
(17,542 posts)liberaltrucker
(9,129 posts)NQAS
(10,749 posts)No one is putting their knee on his neck until he dies.
Vinca
(50,273 posts)Ocelot II
(115,719 posts)That was part of his recent plea deal on the federal civil rights charge. Floyd's family was ok with it because he gets more time, even if in a marginally less miserable place.
Demobrat
(8,980 posts)Put him in the general population and let him take his chances?
Chuuku Davis
(565 posts)Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,697 posts)patphil
(6,180 posts)Also plenty of time to reflect on the consequence of his actions.
He destroyed several lives with his callous disregard for human life, including his own.
Silent3
(15,219 posts)Chauvin might be dismal and lonely, but as far as I'm concerned, this is special treatment he's getting, not hardship.
One of the most egregious things about the US prison system is the wind-and-a-nod cruel and unusual punishment that is permitted (even encouraged, I think sometimes) of making prison not just about serving time and losing freedom, but random brutalization, wherein the most brutal inmates suffer the least brutality.