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tblue37

(65,357 posts)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 10:04 PM Jan 2022

"In one of the wealthiest countries in the world people are forced to steal to feed babies."



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Bought baby formula this morning and the theft alarm went off on my way out. As the cashier deactivated it she said ‘formula is one of the most stolen items’

In one of the wealthiest countries in the world people are forced to steal to feed babies.

I cried in the car.
7:33 AM · Dec 30, 2021
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area51

(11,909 posts)
1. In one of the wealthiest countries,
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 10:18 PM
Jan 2022

people are forced by circumstances to plead for money on GoFundMe to afford their healthcare. So this is par for the course for a barbaric country.


Bev54

(10,052 posts)
5. Formula would not be required as much if you had a paid family leave
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 10:34 PM
Jan 2022

that allowed the mothers time to breast feed their babies past the time needed for formula.

jimfields33

(15,802 posts)
11. They even steal in Beverly Hills
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 11:39 PM
Jan 2022

Not everyone is rich in that town obviously. We need to help everybody.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
2. Most shoplifters of baby formula don't have kids.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 10:25 PM
Jan 2022

They sell the baby formula, making a lot of money that quite often goes straight to the local dope dealers.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,166 posts)
4. So what you're saying is, people are so poor that they need to buy baby formula on the black market
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 10:32 PM
Jan 2022

because they can't afford to buy it at a retail store.

There. Fixed that for ya.

If there were no market for it, the mythical "druggie shoplifters" wouldn't be stealing it to resell.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
6. We just had a "gang" of shoplifters here in my town...
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 10:43 PM
Jan 2022

And what I mentioned is exactly what they were doing.

Shoplifting baby formula, selling it cheaper than the stores did, and using the profits to buy dope.

No, these are not each and every one of them.

But I am also thinking of that guy with a bicycle in San Francisco Walgreens, he filled up his bag with easily re-sold beauty stuff, and he'll sell it, so he'll have money for dope.

So druggie shoplifters are NOT "mythical," but they can be in some areas many of the actual shoplifters.

On the news I saw a family piling jugs of laundry detergent into the back of a van from 3 shopping carts.

When the cops caught them later they had meth and fentanyl in their van.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
9. Shoplifters are far more brazen than you might even think.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 11:19 PM
Jan 2022

There was a pool hall in downtown Vancouver that we called The Homeboy Shopping Network. You could buy from a pretty wide but random assortment of goods, or order specific items.

I never saw it personally, but I know a guy who ordered GOLF CLUBS and got them. $40 for Spalding clubs. Apart from being insanely cheap, just how do you shoplift golf clubs?

The whole place just skeeved me.

Demobrat

(8,978 posts)
7. Before they are forced to steal to feed their babies
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 11:05 PM
Jan 2022

they are forced to have the babies in the first place. Okay, not all. But how many poor women really have babies by choice?

How many would have them if abortion was safe, legal, and available on demand - without judgment?

How many would get pregnant in the first place if they had access to reliable birth control? Or were not dependent on men who took what they wanted when they wanted it?

We (society) love to say that some people shouldn’t have kids. As if they had a choice.

vanlassie

(5,670 posts)
8. Look. No one needs to steal formula in the US.
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 11:16 PM
Jan 2022

If they are poor, they qualify for WIC. They get all they need. For a year. Not that there is no black market. WIC formula is sold in every town.

vanlassie

(5,670 posts)
15. I worked there for ten years. The qualifications are very accommodating.
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 02:28 AM
Jan 2022

Frankly it is the best bang for the taxpayers buck. WIC insures that American children get nutritious food from birth to age 5.

PatrickforB

(14,574 posts)
10. Yes. It really is about the priorities of those we elect, isn't it?
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 11:28 PM
Jan 2022

We can squander trillions on forever wars, and irresponsible tax cuts for billionaire parasites, and certainly just gave the DoD another $770 BILLION in this year's war bill.

Where is our healthcare?

Where is our dental care?

Where are the subsidies for childcare so parents can work?

Where is the K-12 system that should be so good it is the envy of the world?

Where is the affordable debt-free college for our kids and grandkids?

Oh...I forgot. Our corporate governance is about profits over people. The doctrine of shareholder primacy was born in 1919 with a MI Supreme Court ruling against Henry Ford. It seems that when Ford raised the wages of the people working in his factory so they could afford to purchase the cars they themselves built, the Dodge brothers, who owned shares in Ford sued on the basis that 'overpaying' his workers denied them profits to which they were entitled as shareholders.

And they won. Did you all know? This is why we have so much corporate misbehavior. Look at the Perdue Pharma debacle that is currently playing out - the Sacklers damned right knew Oxycontin was addictive and was ruining lives, but they lied their asses off and continued peddling their addictive opioids to keep earning PROFITS. When a significant number of Ford Pintos exploded when they got rear ended because of a gas tank defect, Ford decided to keep paying the claims of burn victims and their families because that would be cheaper, wouldn't eat so much into PROFITS as would recalling the Pinto and fixing the dangerous gas tanks. Decades this has happened.

And now we have MASSIVE corporate funds pouring into the coffers of our US Senators and Representatives through super-pacs created because of the Citizens United ruling and earlier rulings like Buckley vs Valleo that made it possible for massive amounts of 'soft money' to be collected for use in elections.

So...campaign finance reform, and forcing changes to corporate charters that call for a stakeholder rather than a shareholder primacy approach to corporate governance. Those two things would solve a bunch of the problems.

But how the hell will we as a species get rid of the greed gene? When will we grow up and start planning forward as a species, to use resources to meet human need instead of systematically routing massive amounts of money from the public treasury into the pockets of a few billionaire parasites?

I don't know...tune in next week...

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,470 posts)
14. If genes
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 02:10 AM
Jan 2022

Can be found that cause dark triad personalities, or make it likely maybe
CRISPR gene editing can make these born assholes stop being toxic.

Destroying the genetic makeup that causes dark triads to be what they are
getting edited out of the gene pool,I would be so happy dancing in the street.

And living in this world would be so much better .

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
12. Problem for years
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 11:47 PM
Jan 2022

Most places also have a limit on how much that be bought. The formula is used in the manufacture of drugs.

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