Heartbreaking: Beloved grandmother dies after card game with person who hid they had Covid

[Takket]

https://www.wxyz.com/news/family-who-lost-grandma-to-covid-19-asks-people-feeling-sick-to-stay-home-away-from-gatherings

Lauren says her grandmother decided to attend a card game with friends. She asked if everyone was vaccinated. Everyone said yes. But her loved ones say then one player took a gamble at that card game that no one else saw coming.

"Somebody decided that testing positive for COVID is something they can hide," Lauren said. "The only way we found out is that the person owned up after Nana got sick."

Lauren says she doesn’t want to reveal her grandmother’s friend’s identity out of respect for their privacy. But she wants you to know what happened as you make decisions.

Though her grandma was vaccinated, as a blood cancer survivor, her immune system was weak. She caught COVID-19, was hospitalized, ventilated, and died on Dec. 21, right before Christmas.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. How awful! Lying so you can attend a card game...

And your lie killed this old lady.

How do you fix this?

[pandr32]

16. Warped values

I see that too many people are the same. Most people appear to balance self-interest with consideration for others--at least they used to. Our society, as it once once, encouraged this. The balance allowed enough self-interest for people to have dreams and to set goals in their pursuit of happiness. To the deplorables, what they want and need is all that matters--big or small.

[alphafemale]

2. Grandmother was vaccinated and died?

Don't let FOX hear this.

[vanlassie]

6. They would overlook the data about grandma being immune suppressed.

[IronLionZion]

42. Fox News hears voices in their own head

that drowns out the immune suppressed cancer survivor part of the story

[agingdem]

3. this is what Trump did to Joe Biden..

remember the the debates...he was COVID positive and didn't give a damn...

[onecaliberal]

5. 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

[Girard442]

13. Oh, but he did give a damn.

He wanted Biden to die.

[agingdem]

14. True..

as did his reptilian children and vile wife...

[MustLoveBeagles]

48. +1

I'm convinced he was trying to kill President Biden.

[Grasswire2]

26. he weaponized his own spit, deliberately

Hollering at Joe constantly.

[agingdem]

31. and don't forget not only did the orange cretin

test positive so did his loathsome wife and Hope Hicks and both were in attendance at the debates..also recall the the family sat maskless during the debate...

[Grasswire2]

40. it ought to be a crime nt

[Evolve Dammit]

45. x1000!

[MustLoveBeagles]

52. Yes

Other than being vastly irritated at dump's constant interruptions and shouting, as I was watching the debate I remember thinking how ill dump looked and thinking something was wrong with him. I wondered if he had it and went ahead with the debate anyway. He did it on purpose. He must've been disappointed that Biden didn't get it.

[GoCubsGo]

56. He absolutely was infected at the debate.

Mark Meadows wrote in his book that Fat Bastard tested positive on Sept. 26. The debate was on the 29th. They arrived at the very last second to the debate, in order avoid the required pre-debate COVID test. He lied and claimed he tested earlier in the day and was negative. The idiots running the debate took his word for it. Damn right he did it on purpose. It's the same reason his shitty-ass family all pranced around around the debate hall maskless, too Yeah, he was probably showing symptoms on debate night. Two days later, he was in Walter Reed.

What's really disgusting is that he hosted multiple super-spreader events between his first positive test and the debate. He didn't care who he got infected, including his own putrid family--some of whom he did make ill, including his wife and youngest son.

[IronLionZion]

43. Trump knew Biden didn't have access to the treatment he was getting

monoclonal antibodies were not available back then

[GoCubsGo]

58. And, actually did to a whole lot of other people.

Including his wife and son, several of his aides and associates, including Kellyanne Conjob and at least one Secret Service agent. He and his infected entourage infected at least 11 people at the debate. And, no telling how many he infected during his various events prior to the debate. He tested positive 3 days ahead of it.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

62. Yep. And he got away with it.

First off, they should have banned Trump from the debate because he did not show a negative test result. They took his word 😱 that he was not COVID positive.

And his unmasked entourage should have been ejected.

Then, Biden should have been given the entire allotted time for the broadcast.

But there are never any real consequences for R misbehavior, so they just keep doing whatever the fck they want.

[Kid Berwyn]

63. On PURPOSE.

Trump is a murderer.

[BComplex]

4. That's murder.

Negligent homicide.

[aeromanKC]

7. These scenarios should be lawsuits and indictments.

Should be a crime!!

[ananda]

8. This is why I'm sheltering now.

I'm moving back to online bridge only
with my several partners.

The way people mask at the club will
not protect me or really anyone from
getting Omicron.

We all hate online bridge because of all
the cheating.

The scandals you've read about are just
the tip of the iceberg.

But it is what it is. Online is still better
than nothing because we have to keep up
our game to be competitive when we
return to F2F later.

[Cobalt Violet]

9. Is it murder yet?

[Lefta Dissenter]

11. Only if the beloved grandmother was pregnant at the time of death. (N/t)

[getagrip_already]

21. and then it would be the doctors fault....

If he/she/they didn't use the mercury-chromium-arsenic cocktail to cure her.

[BlackSkimmer]

10. This is why this ridiculous theater about only vaccinated people are allowed in to places is so

misleading.

People lie, and the sale of fake vax cards is everywhere.

[Walleye]

12. My sister-in-law just moved her mah-jongg games to remote

She had been playing with three others in her home. One of them called and said she’s been near someone who tested positive so she postponed the next session. Then the same person called and said she tested positive so my sister-in-law quarantined for a week. Very grateful to the friend who was honest about her exposure.We are a resilient bunch but we’re starting to strain at the seams a little

[milestogo]

15. The "friend's" identity should be front page news, so people can avoid her.

She does not deserve the privacy to expose others.

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

29. Yeah, my first thought was "fuck their privacy!!"

Anyone who is willing to knowingly risk the life of another human(s) does not deserve privacy.

[Sherman A1]

33. Agreed

She disrespected her "friends" by not telling them she was positive. She deserves no respect from anyone else.

[MagickMuffin]

17. Too bad grandma's family has so much respect for her dangerous "friend"

He killed her and likely is killing other people. They need to release their name because this "person" IS irresponsible for their behaviors and will continue to KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE!

[EX500rider]

60. "He"? Does not say in the article

[MineralMan]

18. What shameful arrogance!

To lie about something like that over a freaking card game is unconscionable, to say the least.

That poor woman's "friend" was no friend at all. I hope she feels the enormous guilt she should feel.

Recently, my wife decided to join a local book club that has weekly meetings. I suggested she find out the masking policies of the group. She did. Masks were optional. She wisely opted out of going to the meetings.

[Snackshack]

19. The person should

Be charged with “reckless endangerment” at the very least if it can be proven they were the source and by the way the article reads they are pretty sure that person was the source of the infection.

[KPN]

20. Ah shit!

[Sancho]

22. I think this is more common than not...it's happened to me before,

but no one died that I know of.

In one case, a group I sing with was holding outside rehearsals, 6 feet apart, and asked if everyone was vaccinated. Everyone agreed over email to the "rules". One member (someone in their late 70s who usually isolated) ended up in the hospital. He is ok now, but several have quit the group. We found out later that another member was not vaccinated and had a "mild case" of COVID. She stood beside the guy who ended up sick. She admitted to everyone that she would not get a shot because of a "China flu" and it was "her choice".

In another case a social group was meeting at some outside tables on a balcony for a New Year's Eve get-together before fireworks. Everyone was on a text list to only come if you were vaccinated and boosted! Everyone had a mask. Tables were set with chairs far apart. After we got there, one couple stated they didn't need vaccines because they had caught COVID already. I knew there was trouble when one of them said it didn't matter because DeSatan had a large supply of Regeneron, but the drug companies were holding out on hydroxycloriquine. The party basically broke up immediately with a lot of angry people.

This is Florida, and the Governor is crazy, so it feeds the mass insanity. I believe there are lots of people who lie about vaccine status, and rationalize their lies.

[MustLoveBeagles]

47. It's amazing that people think they can lie about this and get away with it

The man in the first example is fortunate to be alive. In the second one the couple's stupidity and selfishness ruined everyone's evening. And I bet the people that had followed the rules had been looking forward to the gathering. I guess if I'm tempted to go to a similar gathering I'll have to assume someone's lying and act accordingly.

[Sancho]

55. People who have known each other for years now aren't talking...

...when this virus is over there will still be some hard feelings.

[Tanuki]

23. I know someone, also a grandmother with a past history of health problems,

who got sick with Delta variant covid after a social occasion with 2 friends. They were all vaccinated, and were convinced all of their personal contacts were as well. It turned out that one of the 3 was not yet symptomatic, having been infected unaware by someone in her own circle who lied about their vaccine status, and that was how my acquaintance got it. She got quite sick and was briefly hospitalized but responded to monoclonal antibody treatnent and is fine now. It was an eye-opener, though, and something to think about.

[3catwoman3]

24. Fuck that "friend's" privacy.

Out the murderer.

[BobTheSubgenius]

28. + 1000000

That was exactly what I was going to say.

[multigraincracker]

25. Time to give out Mary Mallon awards

You may remember her as Typhoid Mary.

[Bayard]

27. I would think the HIV laws might be applicable

From the CDC,:

As of 2021, 35 states have laws that criminalize HIV exposure.
General criminal statutes, such as reckless endangerment and attempted murder, can be used to criminalize behaviors that can potentially expose another to HIV and or an STD. Many states have laws that fall into more than one of the categories listed above. For this analysis, only HIV-specific laws are captured for states with both HIV-specific laws and STD/communicable/infectious disease laws. Only HIV or STD/communicable/infectious disease laws are captured for states with both HIV or STD/communicable/infectious disease laws and sentence enhancement statutes.

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

34. Not knowing this in detail it was still one of my first thoughts.

[JanMichael]

30. The online sites are not always right but show she was a Dem.

https://www.ohioresidentdatabase.com/person/OH0018409290/bartolovich-barbara

That makes it suck just a little more. I wonder if the friend lied about everything?

[Boomerproud]

59. Is my personal information out there on this site?

I don't like this. Way to 1984esque.

[JanMichael]

61. Every site is different. Every state handles public info differently.

Every county has slightly different info freely available on their GIS and deed search sites.

So maybe?

[totodeinhere]

32. I think there is too much of that going on.

I personally know someone who tested positive then went on to violate their quarantine by going out in public. I guess some people just don't care.

[Jon King]

35. This story does not add up at all.

This makes zero sense. What would it matter if they were vaccinated? Vaccinated people carry the infection too. And a positive or negative test is meaningless as people can get tested and still be infected.

Does it add up that someone would lie about being positive than magically own up at a later time? So they were willing to lie but then when the lady died they then would say, yes, I tested positive? And risk a lawsuit or losing every friend rather than simply keeping that lie going? There would be zero way for anyone to tell who was lying or not. No one could tell a cold sniffle from Covid.

Come on now, this story does not pass the sniff test at all. Seems more likely someone just likes attention. Grandma got Covid and passed, it sucks, but likely not due to this story.

[Farmer-Rick]

50. Vaccinated folks are less likely to get infected

It's difficult to estimate but there is a great deal of immunity to even infection with vaccines. And this vaccine is tracking along the same lines. So you could be as much as 88 percent protected from infections.

The tests are about 80 percent accurate. They are more likely to be wrong when you first are infected or for over 14 days after.

A person frequently does not have a choice if they reveal their illness or not because of the obvious symptoms. The friend may have been forced to tell the truth when she started coughing, or running a fever. There are ways to tell if others have COVID or at least to tell if they are sick.

There is a recent video of an obviously sick woman recording herself and posting it. She says she has Covid and her husband is dying from it while attending a rally without a mask....

So these anti-vaxxers are known to purposely spread it around.

[ZonkerHarris]

51. They admitted it before she died. It's helpful if you read the whole article before commenting.

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[totodeinhere]

36. I think there is too much of that going on.

I personally know someone who tested positive then went on to violate their quarantine by going out in public. I guess some people just don't care.

[Farmer-Rick]

37. Yeah, I think a lot of people are lying about it

There are over 10,000 vendors for fake vaccine cards.

There are anti-vaxxers showing up infected at anti-vaxxer protests. They have probably been showing up at other functions regularly anyway. These are people who are pretending there is no pandemic. So, no sweat for them to lie and get you, or a cherished relative with compromised immune systems, infected too.

I suspect a lot of the breakthrough cases are fake vaccinated or caused by them.

And all those cruise ships are attracting those fake vaxxers. What's an anti-vaxxer to do if they want to do something like a cruise but aren't allowed? They have no choice but to lie.

[Lucinda]

38. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[Karadeniz]

39. I don't think there's a moral imperative to respect a liar who kills someone. In fact, there's a

duty to others to warn them about this person.

[SheltieLover]

41. Typical magat behavior!

Friend (fully vaxed & masked) was at a bowling tourney & maskhole was chatting away about his houseful of covid + family members!

It's like a badge of honor for them, it seems!

[mountain grammy]

44. No she should absolutely name the person

Who killed her grandmother.

[calimary]

46. You know what? I'd reveal that person's identity as far and wide as I could.

It’d be a public service!

I’d bust whoever tried to do that around me or in my life. “Um… that guy/gal ISN’T vaccinated. He’s/She’s just lying and hoping you won’t find out.” (Until you come down with it yourself, after hanging out with him/her.)

I wouldn’t let them walk around in public without saying something.

Whoever they are, they’re Walking Death (or severe sickness and weeks in the ICU).

[ZonkerHarris]

49. That liar is a murderer. Scum.

[liberalmuse]

53. This family has more class than I do.

Because if someone murdered my grandma because they thought their having a little bit of fun was more important than anyone else's health or life, I would not give two licks about their privacy. I'm glad this story is out so people know not to trust anyone, not even friends or family. Some people are incredibly selfish and willing to take risks with other's well-being for the dumbest reasons.

[COL Mustard]

54. That person should be charged in the grandmother's death

Maybe not manslaughter, but certainly something.

[Hekate]

57. COVID Karen's name will come out, sooner rather than later. Someone who was there will tell...

… because she exposed all of them.

After that, I expect her social life to be sharply curtailed.