Everything is not OK

[gab13by13]

That was one of the themes that Nicolle discussed on today's show. Her show was extremely scary. I wish that some of the wait and see people watched her tonight.

Clint Watts stated that the coup will happen in 2022 at the local level. He asked what will happen if people lose at the local level and refuse to step down? The discussion was about the numerous voter restriction laws that have been passed.

What was really scary that Nicolle played a clip of Fiona Hill who is an expert on Russian autocracy. She stated that everything that happened in Russia is happening here, mainly that one branch of our legislature is complicit in the coup.

Another takeaway was the fact that the coup was not a one day event. The coup was planned by intelligent people and lawyers from November 2020 and the coup is ongoing today. If these people who planned the coup and are continuing to plan the next coup are not brought to justice, we will have a coup in 2022 and another one in 2024.

It is apathy according to Nicolle. People are just tired of what we went through for 4 years under Trump and want to believe that everything is OK when in fact it isn't.

Excellent show tonight, but another scary one.

[gab13by13]

2. It is not a joke, you get it,

If Trump wins by hook or crook, most likely by crook, his reign will be just like Pinocet's reign in Chile. Trump is evil and mentally ill, he will either murder or imprison anyone who disagrees with him. Sites like DU will be shut down. I don't know how to put it any more bluntly, I am not joking.

Things better happen this January or February.

[gab13by13]

4. I know how to deal with them,

I just post the Churchill quote, which I paraphrase;

The only thing worse than the evil and death that Hitler brought into the world was that good people stood back and allowed it to happen.

I wish the wait and see crowd could have listened to Fiona Hill tonight talking about the similarities between Russia and today's U.S.

[Evolve Dammit]

10. A great portion of our citizenry in in denial, delusional, aggressivley defiant, ignorant of history

[inthewind21]

25. Bingo

And until there is a handle on that, things will keep rolling right along. I have been saying and I will continue saying, all this up in arms about politicians is an exercise in futility. The REAL problem is the citizenry. a HUGE chunk of the population are moronic nut bags. THAT is where the problem lies. Until that corrects. Nothing will change. Trump didn't take the White House at gun point and none of the insane congress members did either. Yeah yeah yeah they cheat, that's well known, but, they were still elected. The focus is in the wrong place. Getting all up in arms about elected officials, elected being the key word there, is useless for the most part. The bigger problem is WHO put them there.

[onetexan]

23. +1 -K&R

[Corgigal]

12. Pinochet, lord is that correct.

I haven’t even thought of this man.

This is exactly what he will do.

Scary.

[mahina]

22. Read and share Gene Sharp's The Anti Coup

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https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/The-Anti-Coup.pdf

Please

As coups are one of the primary ways through which dictatorships are installed, this piece details measures that civilians, civil society, and governments can take to prevent and block coups d’état and executive usurpations. It also contains specific legislative steps and other measures that governments and non-governmental institutions can follow to prepare for anti-coup resistance.

Gene Sharp and Bruce Jenkins

Boston: The Albert Einstein Institution, 2003

ISBN-10: 1880813114
ISBN-13: 978-1880813119

[panader0]

33. Don't forget that Pinochet was installed by the US CIA after they backed a coup

against the democratically elected Allende, another 9/11 event.

[Snackshack]

5. Certainly...

The President, AG, SecDef and the Senate / House Majority leaders are working feverishly to defend America and the Rule of Law to ensure something like this will never happen or be attempted…again.

[gab13by13]

7. Why hasn't our DOJ stopped the illegal fraudits that are ongoing?

Our DOJ allowed a pro-Trump Cyber Ninja group to violate federal and state election laws by giving them access to ballots, voter information, election materials and equipment all which should have been maintained in the possession of election officials. Our DOJ did nothing but write a stern letter so the fraudits have spread across the country where they are fostering the Big Lie and laying the ground work so that people lose faith in the integrity of our elections. They are also purging honest election officials and replacing them with Magats.

They want my SS number and driver's license number here in Pa. Plus they are going door to door, illegally, looking for evidence of voter fraud while intimidating voters.

What has DOJ done to hold the coup planners accountable? Will Chuck Schumer ever get the 3 voter/election protection bills passed that have passed the House and are waiting for Senate passage? I see that Chuck finally wants to have a vote on the filibuster carve out on Jan. 17th. January 17th, or maybe it's a vote on S1 which he knows will fail.

[YP_Yooper]

13. So true...

I'm here in Western PA, and my "rep" in congress sued to contest the very same mail in ballots that got him elected. Like, WTF?!?
Basically, he said it was a good and valid mail in process locally, just not on the national level?!?

[inthewind21]

26. Bing

you hit the nail right on the head!

[Aussie105]

6. A direct physical attack on Democracy didn't work . . .

But there are other approaches in the planning stage.

Of that I'm sure.

Those that think it's ok to wait, and do the cleanup from Jan 6th last year via the legal system, are in for some unpleasant surprises.

I'm hoping I'm wrong though.

The rest of the world is watching . . .

[gab13by13]

9. You are not wrong,

the next coup will come at the local and state levels in 2022, that will enable the big coup to happen in 2024.

What happens to our democracy if GQP losing candidates refuse to step down and state and local election officials back them up? What happens if this occurs all across GQP controlled states? Once the GQP controls the House they won't need a mob to win in 2024.

[58Sunliner]

37. I'm afraid you are right. My brother, staunch liberal, and my bil both don't think it will happen.

Denial is a powerful drug. And toxic.

[pecosbob]

8. The Constitution's authors intended minority control by the landed gentry

I think most of them would feel right at home in today's GOP. That being said, a part of me quails at the thought of a 21st century version of Nixon's enemies list.

[gab13by13]

11. A 21st century version of Nixon's enemy list by a mentally ill president Trump.

[pecosbob]

14. And batallions of Bubbas ready and waiting for their list of modern-era Thomas Beckets

James Alex Fields, Kyle Rittenhouse, etc.

[YP_Yooper]

15. Hate to say it

but looking at all the mental dullards and fanatics out there, one would wish there would be SOME criteria (obviously not wealth) for an intelligent vote...

[Escurumbele]

16. It is the old "It Can't Happen Here" that lingers in people's minds, until it happens.

People don't ever want to believe that bad things will happen, and many live like ostriches, they like to hide their heads in the sand thinking the machete will not catch them.

Democrats need to become very aggressive at outing all these criminals, they need to do what republicans do, bash the extremists, sensationalize the truth...republicans sensationalize lies and made up stories, but the truth is very awful and can be scary if presented in the right format. republicans use fear with lies, well Democrats, use fear with truth, that will work. Bombard the airwaves, the internet with fear stories that are true, present to the public what will happen if republicans are not stopped, Biden needs to increase the number of judges in the Supreme Court, and we must win more sits in the Senate to make Manchin and the other (Senema???) obsolete and irrelevant.

[hadEnuf]

21. You are so right but I'm starting to wonder if it will be too little, too late.

Many of us have been so busy trying not to be like Trump and the Republicans that we have handicapped ourselves from fighting back. Fox and the rest of hate media have been allowed to morph into such a propaganda monster that they even have their brainwashed listeners killing themselves with Covid-19 because the talking heads are telling them to.

It's like they are putting tanks in the streets but we won't use ours because we don't want to be like them. The attitudes like that need to change real quick.

We need to use every trick up our sleeves to render these scum incapable of finishing what they have started. It's the only thing they will understand. No amount of talk or appeasement will ever work. Expand the SCOTUS. Assault, restrict or eliminate the filibuster. Use whatever tools we can to thwart these criminals from toppling our government.

[Ferrets are Cool]

31. I don't believe most people would have believed that 800,000 people could have died

from a pandemic in America.....until it actually happened. And some idiots still refuse to believe it. That's we world we live in and "we" had better wake up to that reality.

[raccoon]

17. What show are you referring to? Nt

[gab13by13]

18. Sorry, Nicolle Wallace Deadline White House.

[Tommymac]

19. I would believe that would be Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC. nt

[Kaleva]

20. With climate change, everything is not ok.

As I've said before, I think many here will either not make it or will soon be facing severe hardships.

[onetexan]

24. We have RWseditionists infiltration at every level of government & judiciary

Every election matters since 2016. Democracy has been & is in danger now more than ever. Everyone needs to wake up ; smell the fascism.

[inthewind21]

27. But

Her emails.

[Initech]

29. We had an insurrectionist run for a local school board position in 2020.

This woman (a police officer with zero education experience) ran on a platform of "depoliticizing the classroom" while at the same time flying a giant Trump MAGA flag on the back of her Jeep. Then went to the insurrection and posted about it on Facebook (there's a picture of her with friends all wearing Trump hats and the caption "A girls' trip to DC!&quot . Then there was an attempt to recall her, and that didn't go anywhere, now we're stuck with this MAGA moron. And I suspect there will be more like her.

[onetexan]

34. I've had to stop watching MJ as ots such an awful way to start the morming

So full of bad news, & the way Joe hollers constantly is repulsive to me. I like the guests, however, & like to hear them give their well studied & reasoned perspectives.

[Poiuyt]

30. The next phase of the coup will be silent

The fascists will peacefully take over the government using laws that they put in place.

[CrispyQ]

32. Our side is not taking this seriously enough.

GOTV was our strong suit, but with all the voter suppression laws, even that is at risk. The incumbent party never does as well during the midterms, & we have a tired & demoralized base. If we don't see some indictments/arrests soon, we could lose one or both chambers. If we lose both, it's over. I really believe that. They will ratfuck their way into one-party rule. Install Trump as Speaker, impeach Biden, impeach Harris, viola, Trump as president. Sounds like a far-fetched, made-for-TV movie, but who would have ever thought a reality TV show host would be elected to the highest office of the land? It's looking like at least a third of our fellow Americans are racist fucking morons.

[onetexan]

35. The racists were always there, lurking from inside the woodworks

The Con normalized them & brought these MAGAts outside of the woodworks. Thats how i picture the MAGAts - termites slowly eating up & destroying the seat of American democracy.

[Xoan]

36. I'd can't accept that ...

the coup was planned by intelligent people.