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gab13by13

(21,350 posts)
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:02 PM Jan 2022

Merrick Garland - Read This

Dear Merrick, I will never say a bad word against you ever again, if you do one thing for all of us.

Please appoint either Preet Bharara or Alan Weissman as special prosecutor overseeing the 1/6 insurrection.

I even gave you a choice, both of them have sent mobsters, mafiosa, to jail, and Trump is a mobster.

Thank you. You have plenty of time to read this, our democracy is counting on you.

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Merrick Garland - Read This (Original Post) gab13by13 Jan 2022 OP
Merrick Garland has spent his career tracking White Supremacist cells. Budi Jan 2022 #1
His ultimate focus is to look not political Poiuyt Jan 2022 #2
His focus is tearing down the mob from what we see to what lies at the root. Budi Jan 2022 #4
I never said he didn't know what he is doing. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #8
?? Now I'm OPPOSED to a Sp Prosecutor? Says who? Budi Jan 2022 #11
O for goodness sake. lamp_shade Jan 2022 #3
Glenn Kirschner nt SoCalDavidS Jan 2022 #5
For plain and obvious reasons, appointment of a special counsel would be very problematic. onenote Jan 2022 #6
Having sedition go unpunished is more problematic, maybe the AG should care dem4decades Jan 2022 #7
And how does having any prosecution started by DOJ against a Trump associate thown out help? onenote Jan 2022 #10
Ya. Maybe voters in 2016 should have cared also. Budi Jan 2022 #14
Sedition is not an easy charge to prove... Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #16
It won't just be me. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #9
I doubt Garland's focus is on "what bad things are people saying about me!" Budi Jan 2022 #12
You must be assuming he isn't going to say much? gab13by13 Jan 2022 #17
Oh good lord. Just stop it. Budi Jan 2022 #18
I do not want to know everything. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #20
We all want the same thing. Budi Jan 2022 #21
Conflict of interest is not the only reason to appoint a special counsel, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #13
Many here want Justice to become a Partisan place even when we are in charge it seems. And Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #15
It is partisan and I want it to be partisan, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #19
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #22
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
1. Merrick Garland has spent his career tracking White Supremacist cells.
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:17 PM
Jan 2022

I have no doubt he knows what he's doing & who he trusts to assist with this incredible legal task.

It'd be interesting to find out who he has hired on his team of legal experts.

I'd like to read their background because that would tell us a bit about where his ultimate focus is.






 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. His focus is tearing down the mob from what we see to what lies at the root.
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:25 PM
Jan 2022

Thats his focus.


gab13by13

(21,350 posts)
8. I never said he didn't know what he is doing.
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:39 PM
Jan 2022

Appointing a special prosecutor is a safeguard against the GQP winning back the House. Bill Barr appointed John Durham who is still getting paid to dig up dirt on the Bidens.

Your post confirms what I am asking for, people who are experts in prosecuting the mob.

Look at what Cy Vance did, he brought in an expert financial prosecutor to cypher through Trump's documents.

Why are you opposed to a special prosecutor?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
11. ?? Now I'm OPPOSED to a Sp Prosecutor? Says who?
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jan 2022

Where in the world did you get that accusation?

Here's my post from just an hr ago about a Sp Prosecutor.

"Perhaps he will address the efforts of the J6 committee in their discovery & perhaps announce a Sp prosecutor or such."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216213972#post1


I posted last night also about him possibly naming a Sp Prosecutor.
Whomever he appoints, will be someone he's sure of as to the task ahead.
It may not be a familiar name, but it will certainly be someone he knows has the skillset necessary.

I'd bet he's already a few steps ahead of all of us on that matter.
Ya think?

onenote

(42,708 posts)
6. For plain and obvious reasons, appointment of a special counsel would be very problematic.
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:26 PM
Jan 2022

Under the statute giving the AG authority to name a special counsel, Garland would have to find that there would be conflict of interest in having DOJ handle the investigation/prosecution of 1/6 matters. That would mean that the hundreds of cases currently started by DOJ would be thrown into doubt as to whether they were tainted by a conflict of interest.

PS - I don't think Garland particularly cares whether or not you say a bad word about him.

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
7. Having sedition go unpunished is more problematic, maybe the AG should care
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jan 2022

About the country being concerned about our democracy.

onenote

(42,708 posts)
10. And how does having any prosecution started by DOJ against a Trump associate thown out help?
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:42 PM
Jan 2022

And what makes you so certain a special counsel would end up bringing prosecutions that Garland wouldn't?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
14. Ya. Maybe voters in 2016 should have cared also.
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:58 PM
Jan 2022

Not like the warnings of what was to come weren't being sounded.

But let's blame ...ummm..AG Garland!

Time for people to own their role.
Jfc

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
16. Sedition is not an easy charge to prove...
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 02:04 PM
Jan 2022
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/22/sedition-charges-capitol/

Former acting U.S. attorney for D.C. Michael Sherwin told CBS’s “60 Minutes” in an interview airing Sunday that charges for some of the 400 arrested could include sedition, a charge rarely brought by the federal government.

“I personally believe the evidence is trending toward that, and probably meets those elements,” Sherwin told Scott Pelley. He added: “I believe the facts do support those charges. And I think that, as we go forward, more facts will support that, Scott.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Sherwin said that about 10 percent of arrests involve “more complex conspiracy cases where we do have evidence — it’s in the public record — where individual militia groups from different facets … did have a plan.”

Sherwin didn’t connect that 10 percent of arrests specifically to the idea of a sedition charge, but if even a small number were charged accordingly, it would represent one of the — if not the — broadest sedition cases in American history.
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
12. I doubt Garland's focus is on "what bad things are people saying about me!"
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jan 2022

Whatever he speaks about today, certainly won't be enough for the armchairs.
That's the only thing predictable.

gab13by13

(21,350 posts)
17. You must be assuming he isn't going to say much?
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jan 2022

Why do you attack people here who see zero action being taken? I can put out a list of a dozen former prosecutors, DOJ officials who feel the exact same way, who say the exact same things that I am saying here.

Why don't you also claim that Adam Schiff won't be satisfied, Laurence Tribe, Neal Katyal, Matt Miller, Dan Goldman, Ted Lieu won't be satisfied?

Why do you think that Garland is speaking today? He is speaking today because he feels the pressure being put on him, not by little ole me, but by the people listed and thousands more who don't believe he is doing enough. I wish to gosh that all of us who feel that Garland isn't doing enough are wrong, and I will be the first person to apologize.

He absolutely can convince me to shut my mouth, and I will sing his praises. He is a good man, he doesn't need my endorsement.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
18. Oh good lord. Just stop it.
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jan 2022

I have no idea why you're going off on me.

Truth is NONE OF US KNOW WHAT HE WILL SAY TODAY.
I expect him to deliver what he sees fit under his legal abilities.
I'll accept what he says & refuse to beat the piss outta him cuz he didn't tell me everything I wanted to hear.

Cripe.
There is no argument. Its just fact.



gab13by13

(21,350 posts)
20. I do not want to know everything.
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 02:20 PM
Jan 2022

I only want to know 1 thing. I want to know if DOJ is following the facts wherever they lead, and no one is immune from prosecution should evidence warrant it. That's it, that's all I want to hear. I didn't want to hear that a sitting president can't be prosecuted under Mueller because that is not settled law, and I sure don't want to hear that a former president can't be prosecuted.

gab13by13

(21,350 posts)
13. Conflict of interest is not the only reason to appoint a special counsel,
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:56 PM
Jan 2022

§ 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.
The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and -

(a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney's Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and

(b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter.

I am not a lawyer and it seems like you are, but I can think of several extraordinary circumstances which would give cause to appoint a special prosecutor who can't be summarily dismissed for no cause. We have the extraordinary circumstance where one of our political parties was complicit and is still pushing the coup. The Republican party would do whatever it takes to abolish any investigation into 1/6.

Appointing a special prosecutor who can't be fired gives added protection in keeping the investigation ongoing.

Maybe I am wrong?

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
15. Many here want Justice to become a Partisan place even when we are in charge it seems. And
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jan 2022

while I sympathize with this. It is a bad idea. We need to get things done. If this is our focus completely, we will lose the midterms.

gab13by13

(21,350 posts)
19. It is partisan and I want it to be partisan,
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jan 2022

One party is for democracy and the other party is for autocracy and I will shout that to the roof tops.

The other party is rigging the next 2 elections. They have passed voter suppression laws that will not be adjudicated in the courts until after the 2022 election. Once they control the House they can rig the 2024 presidential election unless the Senate passes 3 voter/election protection bills that have already been passed in the House.

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