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melm00se

(4,993 posts)
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 05:42 PM Jan 2022

20 million people pirated "Black Widow"

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/black-widow-pirating-disney-600-million-mcu-marvel-movie/

"Deadline claims that Black Widow was pirated by more than 20 million viewers, which translates to about $600 million worth of eyeballs."

While we can argue about the dollar amount, the 20 million number, if accurate, would certainly have a significant financial impact.

(Also, please don't down the "superhero movies suck" path. The MCU, arguably, has been watched by more people world wide than just about any other franchise so if they suck, I want to put something out that sucks 1/10th as much).
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20 million people pirated "Black Widow" (Original Post) melm00se Jan 2022 OP
The file-sharing activity on bit-torrents reaches around the world FakeNoose Jan 2022 #1
Most reason is that they want something for free!! Nt USALiberal Jan 2022 #3
Not really, many people actually want the theater experience or some other big screen when watching JI7 Jan 2022 #11
I would bet a large percentage of the peeps who saw it that way - OhZone Jan 2022 #2
Agreed, claiming $30 loss per instance is BS Amishman Jan 2022 #4
it is the price that is added to melm00se Jan 2022 #7
The interesting consideration is how much they hurt themselves by setting the price that high Amishman Jan 2022 #14
$30 was what was added to a melm00se Jan 2022 #19
Damn, I thought this was about a cannabis strain. Emile Jan 2022 #5
I think you are referring (reefering?) to White Widow, which is a Sativa. Earth-shine Jan 2022 #13
Actually it's a hybrid 50% Indica 50% Sativa. The high starts out Emile Jan 2022 #15
No, they mean Black Widow obamanut2012 Jan 2022 #17
Never heard of either but... Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #20
So other seed banks pirated the White Widow strain, forcing the Emile Jan 2022 #21
Man... TlalocW Jan 2022 #6
Saw it on my last plane flight; didn't grab me. brooklynite Jan 2022 #8
I have a hard time believing that many people would bother. NT cinematicdiversions Jan 2022 #9
It's part of the most successful film franchise in history. Dial H For Hero Jan 2022 #24
I watched this film on Disney+ after there was a settlement between Marvel and Johnanson LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #10
I bought the 4K disk off ebay for $12 a few weeks ago. Earth-shine Jan 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author USALiberal Jan 2022 #16
20 Million and 1... SKKY Jan 2022 #18
The ticket price is ForgedCrank Jan 2022 #22
It would be nice to know how this compares to other MCU releases. SYFROYH Jan 2022 #23

FakeNoose

(32,641 posts)
1. The file-sharing activity on bit-torrents reaches around the world
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 05:50 PM
Jan 2022

Probably Americans are the least likely to do it because we have high-speed internet, cable movie channels, On Demand options, etc. that other parts of the world don't have access to. In many countries the current hit movies don't get released for several months, or maybe never. Also theaters are closed or have curtailed hours because of Covid in many countries. I'm not excusing file-sharing because it is a form of theft, but there are many reasons why people do it.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
11. Not really, many people actually want the theater experience or some other big screen when watching
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 01:56 AM
Jan 2022

these movies .

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
2. I would bet a large percentage of the peeps who saw it that way -
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 06:15 PM
Jan 2022

would not have paid to see it anyway.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
4. Agreed, claiming $30 loss per instance is BS
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 06:21 PM
Jan 2022

I don't even pay half that seeing it in the theater (when I used to go to theaters)

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
7. it is the price that is added to
Wed Jan 5, 2022, 11:58 PM
Jan 2022

Disney+ to see it.

This is why the dollar amount is something to be argued.

Regardless of the dollar amount/viewer, Disney has been financially injured by piracy.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
14. The interesting consideration is how much they hurt themselves by setting the price that high
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 07:35 AM
Jan 2022

Now that you say where the $30 comes from (I missed that part), the figure makes more sense.

But at the same time it raises a different question. How many people pirated simply because that price was too high and they knew the odds of getting caught were essentially zero? Would Disney have been better off with a lower price and making more sales? Not excusing piracy, just debating the business model, as that price point might have encouraged widespread piracy.

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
19. $30 was what was added to a
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 03:24 PM
Jan 2022

Disney+ subscription and you can have as many folks watch it in your house.

Emile

(22,780 posts)
15. Actually it's a hybrid 50% Indica 50% Sativa. The high starts out
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 07:43 AM
Jan 2022

with an energizing sativa which later mellows out with a relaxing indica. Nice overall strain.

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
20. Never heard of either but...
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 03:40 PM
Jan 2022

Weedmaps has a neat little history on it:

Black Widow is an Indica-leaning hybrid of Brazilian and south Indian landraces that was originally cultivated by breeder Scott Blakey -- aka Shantibaba -- under the name White Widow.

When Blakey and breeder Howard Marks -- aka Mr. Nice -- left Green House Seed Company in the late 1990s, they changed the name to Black Widow to distinguish their plant from White Widow strains sold by other seed banks.

https://weedmaps.com/strains/black-widow

Emile

(22,780 posts)
21. So other seed banks pirated the White Widow strain, forcing the
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 04:16 PM
Jan 2022

original breeder to change the name to Black Widow to distinguish his strain. Very interesting, I learned something.

Response to Earth-shine (Reply #12)

ForgedCrank

(1,782 posts)
22. The ticket price is
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jan 2022

why we always just wait a couple months and pay a couple bucks to stream it. We never go to the theater anymore because of the expense. I've also never really understood why it's even worth the effort to steal movies from the internet. The download sizes must be massive and then you are just watching the thing on your computer which would suck.
If we like a movie enough we'll eventually buy the b-ray disc when it comes out, but that's pretty rare these days. There aren't many movies anymore that are worth owning.

SYFROYH

(34,170 posts)
23. It would be nice to know how this compares to other MCU releases.
Thu Jan 6, 2022, 04:47 PM
Jan 2022

Theft is baked into almost every business.
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