Andrew Yang's New Year's resolution is to blame the Democrats.

[lapucelle]

New year...new party...new opportunities to blame Democrats.

[Budi]

1. Back at a Mr Yang. Answer me this, since it's becoming a repeated phrasing in your circle

Link to tweet

NeoLiberals, NeoDemocrats, NeoProgressives..

[SheltieLover]

4. This!👆

[Budi]

5. No kidding., huh.

[lapucelle]

6. They spend more time boosting Republicans by trashing Democrats

than anything else.

[paleotn]

9. Mercenaries. They're in it for themselves. Nothing more.

In that respect, you'd think they'd feel more comfortable in the GQP. The party of hacks and mercs.

[betsuni]

15. The myth that the majority of The People agree with their populism so the only possible explanation

for losses are either Democrats rigging elections or tricking voters into voting for them. Some of them actually seem to believe it. Others just use it to fundraise, but that outrage well is drying up I think. They should really try something new.

[Budi]

17. Populism is also a well used political game of Vladimer Putin

Trump was a master of Populism methods.
So are cult leaders.

[SheltieLover]

22. Yup

Remember: "All roads lead to Russia..."

[betsuni]

24. Yes. Worked extremely well on the Right.

Amazing to see populists on the Left running as Democrats against the Democratic Party, spending all their time telling everyone how corrupt and terrible Democrats are and being shocked that Democratic voters don't like it.

[Celerity]

30. Why are you posting a twitter troll who pushes the lie Sanders is the progenitor of Trumpism?

Link to tweet

[lapucelle]

31. The troll is Andrew Yang. He's the one looking to revive a narrative that hurts no one but Democrat

As for the toxic Yang tweet, the date it was written and posted seems to be missing from the screen cap that was posted above.

In the interest of not serving to amplify Yang's anti-Democratic Party narrative, I'm posting a partial screen shot as a reminder that divisive nonsense from long ago is still being spread by Yang to srve his own personal political agenda. Yang posted that tweet two days ago (January 7 2022).

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[Celerity]

32. the date of the tweet is not missing, I posted both a screenshot and the original tweet link

from my original reply:

Also, that is just pettifogging to try and derail the question of why that poster is posting a POS troll who is also amplifying utter bollocks calling Sanders 'the progenitor of Trumpism'. That is an outrageous smear.

Yang's bullshit smears don't excuse using a troll who engages in other bullshit smears.

[lapucelle]

33. The date of the toxic Yang tweet (that you posted) is missing from the screen cap (that you posted).

When I go to twitter, the Jan 7 date not missing from the tweet on Yang's twitter feed. Nor is it missing on the retweet.

It seems to have accidentally gone missing in the screen shot posted here.

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[Celerity]

34. NO, it was not missing in my original post, I posted BOTH a screen shot AND the original tweet, as I

just showed (and even your own tiny screenshot of my original reply shows the date, January 8, 2022)

I posted the screenshot in my original reply to the other poster in for people without Twitter to still see it and then posted the tweet link itself to show it was real.

Here is your screenshot of my own reply, blown up (and I include the URL to show that it is indeed YOUR screenshot)

It clearly shows the date of the 'Sanders is the progenitor of Trumpism' tweet, you can see it below the 'ism' in the first 'Trumpism' from the screenshot).







You are simply are once again using sophistry to try and muddy the waters and deflect from that poster using a shit twitter troll.

You have often tried the same tactics to deflect and derail colloquies with me in the past, take them off into the weeds so as to try and mitigate the valid points I make.

They did not work then and are not working now.

[lapucelle]

35. The screencap of the ANDREW YANG TWEET that you posted is missing the January 7 date.

There was no date on the screencap of the the Andrew Yang tweet that you posted here.

The date of the toxic, divisive tweet from Andrew Yang is missing on the screenshot in your post. The date clearly shows on the original tweet and on the retweet when one checks on twitter, but for some reason, it doesn't show here.

Isn't it incredibly troubling that Andrew Yang is busy starting out the new year by blaming Democrats for Trump and reviving toxic, divisive, repeatedly debunked fairy tales about our party?

At this point Andrew Yang has earned his place among those who cloak themselves in the mantle of fake populism in the service of helping to elect Republicans.

[Celerity]

36. Why are you so invested in defending the posting of a twitter troll who amplifies shit like this?

That is the real question. We all know Yang is an asshole. You don't need a POS twitter troll to point that out.

Link to tweet

[lapucelle]

38. This thread is about Andrew Yang. I posted a screenshot of a toxic Andrew Yang tweet from January 7.

A screenshot of second toxic January 7 tweet from Andrew Yang made its way here, but the screenshot of that second toxic tweet was missing the date.

I provided the inexplicably missing January 7 date to underscore the point that Andrew Yang is busy trying to win acolytes for his new party by blaming Democrats for Trump and by reviving debunked disinformation that impugns the integrity of the Democratic Party.

[Celerity]

40. You injected yourself into a question I asked of another poster. That January 7th date isn't germane

to that question I asked them at all.

My original reply to the other poster had a Yang tweet in it, and the date of that Yang tweet is clearly shown if you click on the tweet link I posted.

The dates have nothing to do with the first poster posting a troll who pushes outrageous smears of Sanders.

Your fixating on dates of the multiple tweets is pure misdirection.

I repeat my previous question to YOU:

Why are you so invested in defending the posting of a twitter troll who amplifies shit like this?

We all know Yang is an asshole. You don't need a POS twitter troll to point that out.

Link to tweet

[lapucelle]

41. Anyone invested in the defense of Yang, Turner, and Uygur from the "neo-progressive" label

should probably check to see that all the tweets and retweets referenced in the defense are complete and accurate.


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[Celerity]

44. More avoidance and obfuscation. I posted links for all and that twitter account you are defending

the posting of, by the first poster, amplified a despicable smearing of Sanders.

Those 2 twitter users ('Discourse Enjoyer' @BidenHarrisBro and the one they implied ie 'The horseshoe theory is very real' @sensen2011) are trolls who post and/or retweet shit that would be banned here.

I do not care what factual things they say about other subjects, there are plenty of other non troll sources one can use to say the same thing.

Your attempted defence of first one (Discourse Enjoyer) being posted here is telling.

This whole thing is almost a mirror of another poster here who repeatedly posted tweets from a troll whose Twitter display name at one time was literally 'Arrest John Fetterman' and repeatedly, obsessively, slagged him off as a neo Nazi skinhead and other shit. The poster here tried to justify it by saying the tweets they posted from that troll had nothing to do with Fetterman (and then doubled down and proceeded to slate Fetterman themselves).

This Twitter loophole on here needs to be closed. It is exploited by a small group to give voice to bad faith actors, bots, shills, and trolls and allows them into the DU conversation, including actual DU-banned, multi-platform-banned, racist, anti-Semitic uber trolls.

If people tried to post things from a site (not social media) that had a tonne of bullshit in regards to other subjects, it would be called out by so many and stopped.

But because this same thing is done via Twitter, it gets a pass, as most people do not know the nefarious shitty background behind those twitter accounts who fall into this category of which I speak.

Done with this thread.

[lapucelle]

45. I "injected" myself in my own OP to point out that twitter evidence presented in defense of Yang,

Turner, and Uygur against the claim that they are "neo-progressives" contains what appears to be defective text.

Bringing the discussion back to Andrew Yang's toxic January 7 tweets is not "obfuscation"; it's staying on topic.

The OP is about Andrew Yang. The defective tweet with the date restored simply underscores the point that Andrew Yang is currently more invested in blaming Democrats than in holding Republicans accountable and responsible. This is not something he tweeted years ago.

It's a good thing for Democrats to be aware of Yang's toxic January 7 tweets, and it's important that Yang be called out for launching his third party by spreading what seems to be his own iteration of a big lie: that the Democratic Party is responsible for the rise of Trump.

Who benefits from Yang revisiting debunked toxic disinformation that impugns the integrity of the Democratic Party?

Cui bono?

[George II]

53. Kind of odd that you post an OP and then "inject" yourself in your own thread! No doubt...

....you're just "pettifogging"!









Time for

[madinmaryland]

2. Andrew Yang. A one trick pony. Does anyone even listen to this guy?

[Baked Potato]

3. How's your bottom line doing, Mr. Yang? Change your own "tacks" lol. Nt

[lapucelle]

8. And Yang's new party has such an "original" name.

Yang only had to go BACKWARDS 10 years to lift it from someone who knew how to win.

[Baked Potato]

19. He should go away! Nt

[Lunabell]

7. He's a sore loser.

Can't win an election as a Democrat, so he trashes them all.

[panader0]

10. I'm so disappointed in Yang.

At one point, in the beginning of the primaries, I gave him some degree of respect.
Now I think he's way out there.

[Progressive Jones]

26. Same here. I still thought about his ideas after he was out of the race. nt

[paleotn]

11. Change TACK, Andrew....

Tacks are something you stick in a bulletin board. Ugh.

[Wounded Bear]

14. "Tack" is also a sailing term...

involving swerving back and forth in order to sail into the wind.

[lapucelle]

16. How fitting for Yang. N/T

[Budi]

18. K & R

Defines him perfectly

[paleotn]

21. Exactly.

[tritsofme]

12. Jill Stein proved that even a minor third party candidate can be disastrous.

Democrats should give no quarter to people like this.

[Budi]

13. Putin's friend, Jill Stein. Here's the proof of your statement:

Link to tweet

"Daggers to the throat of Democracy" were coming from all directions.

Key States gave him the electoral college vote.

Then just to be certain there could be no serious recount challeng in WI, Stein jumped in to do a million$$ fundraising scheme to run a shoddy mimimal recount, thus preventing HRC from requesting the actual recount that was needed for proof.

Koch Libertarians & Pete Thiel's Silicon Valley.
That's Andrew Yang as well.



🖕🏼🤬

[SheltieLover]

23. Absofuckingloutely!

[MichMan]

25. Yet so many here gave her money for those same recounts....

[Demsrule86]

51. It wasn't Jill Stein...she is a monster no doubt...but it was the primary itself...it was bitter and

cost Hillary Clinton much support. I doubt Yang could win as much as Stein did. He is a born loser and blames others for his losses.

[betsuni]

20. This is like going trick or treating on December 31st.

[FreepFryer]

27. What a bitch. Fuck that guy for good. (Nt)

[betsuni]

28. Evidently Yang wants to be as wrong, stupid and hurt the Democratic Party as much as this idiot:

"There are people in this country who are hurting, and they are hurting terribly. And for years they looked to the Democratic Party, which at one time was the party of working people, and they looked and they looked and they looked and they got nothing in return. And out of desperation, they turned to Donald Trump." (Feb. 2, 2017, Sister Giant Conference in Washington D.C.)

[Rob H.]

37. Who said that?

I tried Googling but it was no help.

[betsuni]

47. Bernie Sanders.

[Autumn]

48. I found nothing with that quote on Google. I did a search on Feb. 2, 2017, Sister Giant Conference

in Washington D.C and looked and found this

“Let me suggest to you, and some will disagree with me and that’s okay, too. But let me suggest to you that what happened on November 8th. Trump’s victory was not a victory for Trump or his ideology. It was a gross political failure of the Democratic Party,” said Sanders, who went on to explain his perspective on why Donald Trump won and where the Democratic Party has gone astray
“Let me also tell you something again where people may disagree with me. If you think everyone who voted for Donald Trump is a racist or a sexist or a homophobe, you would be dead wrong,” he said. “Many of those folks—and I met them all over this country—are hard-working, decent people, but they are asking questions like how does it happen I am working longer hours for lower wages? How does it happen that almost all of the new income and wealth in this country is going to the top one percent? How does it happen that as a single mother I cannot afford childcare for my baby? How does it happen that my kids will in all likelihood have a lower standard living than I will, and they’re leaving school deeply in debt? How does it happen that I’m working for 9 bucks an hour and nobody gives a damn about whether or not I can put food on the table or pay my rent? How does it happen that the crooks on Wall Street destroy the economy, yet kids who smoke marijuana get prosecuted, but the CEOs on Wall Street who destroyed the lives of millions of people, not one prosecution of a Wall Street executive, how does that happen?”

“There are people in this country who are hurting, and they are hurting terribly,” added Sanders. “And for years they looked to the Democratic Party, which at one time was the party of working people, and they looked and they looked and they looked and they got nothing in return. And out of desperation, they turned to Donald Trump.”

https://observer.com/2017/02/bernie-sanders-blames-establishment-democrats-election-loss/
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Sanders called Trump a “pathological liar” with no ideology, but he believes that voters chose Trump because his platform challenges the status quo...

The Democratic party shows great concern for the middle class. The poor are rarely mentioned, it has become an almost dirty word to both parties because ending poverty costs money, so they pivot to “working families”. But there is a difference.

[Rob H.]

49. The thing is, he's not wrong

Blue-collar Rust Belt voters felt left behind due to shrinking job markets and the pace of new technologies and voted for Trump because they felt like he was on their side--they said as much in interviews after the election.

[Autumn]

50. No, he's not wrong. Bernie is absolutely correct.

[leftstreet]

43. Is this a quote from Yang?

Was he at that Conference in 2017?

[betsuni]

46. No. Bernie Sanders.

[progressoid]

52. What part of that quote is wrong?

[maxrandb]

29. Who?

[Johonny]

39. Hmm Democratic Party won the House, Senate, Presidency: Yang won nothing ever

Who is the one with political failings?

Maybe Yang should try not being an ill informed fringe nutcase if he wants to win something.

[turbinetree]

42. Mr. Yang, they would not allow you to appear on the republican stage....do you understand......