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(85,998 posts)
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 11:32 AM Jan 2022

Yes, the boat hit the iceberg, but putting children in lifeboats is destructive to their psyche

A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
Yes, the boat hit the iceberg, but putting the children in lifeboats is the most destructive thing imaginable to their psyche. It's time for us to stop all this evacuation talk and just complete the voyage.


A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
Yes, the first 7 watertight compartments are now flooded with frigid North Sea water, but it's time for us to stop being ruled by our fears and get back to our normally scheduled travel. We MUST open the shuffleboard courts on the lido deck.


A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
Look at children's faces when they're in lifeboats. They're frightened. They're confused. They don't want to be there. Their parents don't want them there. We need to put them back on the boat, whose deck is now pitched at 90 degrees.

It's time to declare this sinking OVER.



A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
Look, I too want to survive this sinking, but I look at how people insist on wearing constrictive life-vests and taking to life boats and I sympathize with those who wants to spend their time drilling holes in the hull. Better to show this ocean we don't fear it than to cower.


A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
Do you know what a full evacuation of this sinking ship will DO to our scheduled arrival time?

The cure can't be worse than the *glub glub glub*



A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
Wow, there is a lot of drowning on both sides of this evacuation issue.


A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
I don’t think people shoving their children into lifeboats understand how cruel they’re being.

Lifeboats are terrifying. They indicate a ship about to sink. What a terrible message to send impressionable children.



A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
We need to trust parents as the true experts. Parents understand exactly how much sea water their child can swallow, and what their child’s core body temperature should be. It isn’t our place to shove our opinions on drowning down their throats.


A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
What you alarmists in your lifeboat bubbles don’t realize is ordinary people don’t care about life jackets or buoyancy or physics, and when you talk about those things you sound out-of-touch.

Lifeboat isn’t real life. Go outside. Touch grass. Or seaweed; whatever’s down there.



A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
If lifeboats work, then why are so many people in lifeboats still getting cold and wet. Answer me that.


A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
The pro-evac crowd needs to improve its messaging.

Don’t call me anti-evac, that is a slur as bad as any that has been used in history.


A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat Jan 6
Soon we will be forced to wear armbands to identify ourselves, like this one that I am wearing right now, which I made and put on myself, while I harass the crew, for trying to help.



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Yes, the boat hit the iceberg, but putting children in lifeboats is destructive to their psyche (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2022 OP
They forgot to deny the existence of the iceberg first. TheRealNorth Jan 2022 #1
You are right. The iceberg is a Democratic hoax. Then its just going to go away like Doodley Jan 2022 #9
Because when they point to it and it's already melted they'll say.... Chicago1980 Jan 2022 #18
Well, just having lifeboats in the first place PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2022 #2
the water looks mild bigtree Jan 2022 #7
You know what would help the children? sarchasm Jan 2022 #3
children are the least likely to drown bigtree Jan 2022 #13
What would help the children is for their wellbeing to be Hortensis Jan 2022 #22
On the actual Titanic, they did just that Wednesdays Jan 2022 #24
Including, famously, "Nearer, my God, to thee." soldierant Jan 2022 #33
Telling people they need to get into the lifeboats just makes them resist more. Midnight Writer Jan 2022 #4
graph bigtree Jan 2022 #20
Awesome. Iggo Jan 2022 #30
K&R stage left Jan 2022 #5
Fake bpj62 Jan 2022 #6
breakfast may be delayed bigtree Jan 2022 #25
I did my own research and... RainCaster Jan 2022 #8
That's the part that slays me. "I did my own research". calimary Jan 2022 #21
I got my degree in icebergology from Trump U RainCaster Jan 2022 #23
Or - out of the bottom of an old stale box of Cheerios maybe. calimary Jan 2022 #34
Wheaties RainCaster Jan 2022 #35
For trumpers that's "The Breakfast of Chumpions"! calimary Jan 2022 #44
Institute of ren and stimpy I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2022 #42
The iceberg is no worse than ice cubes. CaptainTruth Jan 2022 #10
Well, there was this guy in a bar. Scotch on the rocks, I believe. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2022 #40
Excellent comparison Taraman Jan 2022 #11
Humorous and apt...but missing a small detail... Moostache Jan 2022 #12
I hear ivermectin melts ice Bayard Jan 2022 #14
How about... keithhs28 Jan 2022 #16
perhaps the best twitter thread i've seen orleans Jan 2022 #15
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2022 #17
KnR for truth. Don't look up -- the iceberg is all in your heads. Hekate Jan 2022 #19
Great thread! crickets Jan 2022 #26
LOL!!!! CatWoman Jan 2022 #29
Being forced to evacuate is worse than genocide. yardwork Jan 2022 #27
This is a brilliant Tweet Thread Mad_Machine76 Jan 2022 #28
K&R betsuni Jan 2022 #31
Brilliant! canetoad Jan 2022 #32
"The President couldn't be clearer--schools in this country should remain open." Celerity Jan 2022 #36
Honey I sunk the kids. twodogsbarking Jan 2022 #37
Do you know how many people drown in SWIMMING POOLS every year? Pinback Jan 2022 #38
Banning Things Scarlet Begalas Jan 2022 #39
Yes! Whap it right back in their faces! calimary Jan 2022 #45
K; R CatWoman Jan 2022 #41
Great post! burrowowl Jan 2022 #43
Those lifeboats were built too quickly DeeDeeNY Jan 2022 #46
Even with a life vest you don't live in 28 degree water very long alphafemale Jan 2022 #47
I. Love. This. sindri Jan 2022 #48
True words are often spoken in a joking manner. twodogsbarking Jan 2022 #49

Doodley

(9,092 posts)
9. You are right. The iceberg is a Democratic hoax. Then its just going to go away like
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:40 PM
Jan 2022

a miracle. Then it's not as bad as they say. It has been 600 times worse than Titanic.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
2. Well, just having lifeboats in the first place
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:22 PM
Jan 2022

is cowardly, an admission that the boat might sink. Which is totally a hoax. Just don't believe those liars!

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
7. the water looks mild
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jan 2022

...shouldn't cause more than a sniffle if you fall in.

Anyhow, your body will get used to it.

sarchasm

(1,012 posts)
3. You know what would help the children?
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:32 PM
Jan 2022

Have the band play some soothing music to keep their minds off why the stern is 150 feet in the air.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
13. children are the least likely to drown
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:56 PM
Jan 2022

...a baby will instinctively start paddling when you drop them into water.

Children stay afloat better than heavier adults.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. What would help the children is for their wellbeing to be
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jan 2022

more important TO EVERYONE than political partisanship.

Outrageous and incredibly contemptible that it could ever be otherwise. Children's lives are not balls to try to hit into the outfield.

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
24. On the actual Titanic, they did just that
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jan 2022

The little band played upbeat music most of the night, in an attempt to keep the crowd from panicking.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
4. Telling people they need to get into the lifeboats just makes them resist more.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:34 PM
Jan 2022

We need to get off their backs, stop scolding them, and stop stigmatizing them.

bpj62

(999 posts)
6. Fake
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jan 2022

Did you see the Iceberg because I didn't so this must be a fake story. I am going back to bed. I will see you at breakfast.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
25. breakfast may be delayed
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 03:10 PM
Jan 2022

...entire kitchen staff is a bit under the water.


...yes, I'll log off right now.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
21. That's the part that slays me. "I did my own research".
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jan 2022

“Research”? What kind of “research”? Where’d you study? Some Mickey Mouse museum? The Institute of Ren & Stimpy?

CaptainTruth

(6,592 posts)
10. The iceberg is no worse than ice cubes.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:41 PM
Jan 2022

It's just a bunch of ice cubes put together. How many people have been killed by ice cubes? None!!!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
40. Well, there was this guy in a bar. Scotch on the rocks, I believe.
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 09:48 PM
Jan 2022

Everyone in the place was too drunk to do a Heimlich maneuver.....

The coroner seemed to think he actually may have been killed by the drunks trying to do the Heimlich....


KY......

Taraman

(373 posts)
11. Excellent comparison
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:45 PM
Jan 2022

Watching "Reliable Sources" this morning and I didn't hear anything about the "common good" or "public health emergency" or 1 million dead and 1 million new infections per day.

I only heard, it's difficult for the individual and his personal freedom. Yes, it is.

There it is, in a nutshell. The case before SCOTUS. The case before the American public. Do you care about anyone else?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
12. Humorous and apt...but missing a small detail...
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:55 PM
Jan 2022

These fools are not only against prevention, they would want to sink the lifeboats as an example to others not to stand in their way...

orleans

(34,053 posts)
15. perhaps the best twitter thread i've seen
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:03 PM
Jan 2022

and the tweet replies are great too.

and there's more from the orig tweet that beings on jan. 7

thank you so much for posting this!

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
28. This is a brilliant Tweet Thread
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 04:04 PM
Jan 2022

Saw it the other day. Then struck up a conversation who said that schools are the safest place for children to be right now and keeping them at home is an inconvenience for their parents.

Celerity

(43,402 posts)
36. "The President couldn't be clearer--schools in this country should remain open."
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 06:35 PM
Jan 2022


Education Secretary Cardona says schools should stay open



Education Secretary Miguel Cardona says “students suffered enough” and schools should stay open, after some districts opted for remote learning due to rising COVID cases and safety concerns.

“I know we have the tools to get our school safely open,” Cardona said on NewsNation’s Rush Hour. “And we have to do everything in our power to give our students the best opportunity for success. And that means giving them an in-person learning opportunity.”

Pinback

(12,155 posts)
38. Do you know how many people drown in SWIMMING POOLS every year?
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 06:58 PM
Jan 2022

Also, the iceberg came from a Chinese lab, funded by our leading oceanographer.

Great thread.

Scarlet Begalas

(25 posts)
39. Banning Things
Sun Jan 9, 2022, 08:42 PM
Jan 2022

This reminds me. I recently had an online discussion with a wingnut about gun control, and he tried to bring up this argument, which i'm sure you've heard before. Cars can kill people, too, so maybe we should ban them. To which I replied, "electricity can kill you too, so I guess we should ban that. And while we're at it, get rid of knives, because they can kill people too." Etc, etc.

DeeDeeNY

(3,355 posts)
46. Those lifeboats were built too quickly
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 06:54 AM
Jan 2022

I don’t see how they can be safe just because all the experts say they are. Better to stay in the boat and drown.

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