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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm noticing the oath keeper indictment stories are buried in the newspapers
I've been looking around the web and it's being treated as a minor story by WaPo, I don't see it on the front page of NYT (if you google oath keeper and sedition you can find it ). It's a minor story in my local Chicago papers here in Chicago. I don't see it in the major stories in the LATimes.
I am really surprised by this.
The one major good news story after the horrific destruction of our voting system and it's buried.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)If anything comes of it ..that will be a surprise.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)mucifer
(23,553 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)mucifer
(23,553 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Millions of us actually get a print newspaper on our doorstep every morning. The paper's website changes frequently. The printed paper does not.
sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)live love laugh
(13,118 posts)This from ABC newz
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,808 posts)must think they have a pretty strong case to bring these charges.
gab13by13
(21,362 posts)a seditious conspiracy doesn't even have to be successful to be charged, the mere planning it is enough. They have plenty of communications between the Oaf Freepers where they are planning physical violence, planning to bring weapons to D.C.
I don't believe this case will be that difficult at all.
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Farmer-Rick
(10,190 posts)The federal law against seditious conspiracy can be found in Title 18 of the U.S. Code (which includes treason, rebellion, and similar offenses), specifically 18 U.S.C. § 2384. According to the statutory definition of sedition, it is a crime for two or more people within the jurisdiction of the United States:
To conspire to overthrow or destroy by force the government of the United States or to level war against them; (to levy war does not mean to actually go to war with battles and such. It has more to do with people who are supposed to be loyal to the US, - like the president and Congress - not being loyal in upholding the Constitution.)
To oppose by force the authority of the United States government;
to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States;
or
To take, seize, or possess by force any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.
Seems to me what with allllllll the videos and testimony, this is easy enough to prove. If it had been a group of Muslim men, no one would be talking about how difficult it is to prove.
I don't think it is about proving a clearly obvious case of sedition. It is about having the political will to prosecute. We still have a bunch of crazies as judges in this country who don't want to convict a bunch of white privileged men.
And the filthy rich made big money off Trump and his bafoons. So, they don't ever want to hold their little monsters accountable.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Captain Creeper is going down, along with plenty of his mateys. Aaaarrrrrrrgh.
OLDMDDEM
(1,575 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)gab13by13
(21,362 posts)will turn out to be a bigger event. The people who signed fake electoral college documents are going to lead us to the people who planned the coup, right to the top. Those people are facing serious jail time so one of them is bound to flip.
If I were John Eastman or Jeffrey Clarke I would be hiring bodyguards right now.
multigraincracker
(32,690 posts)Then lie to cover it up.
This one is starting to look a lot like Watergate, even have a hotel room and a group of planners setting it up.
ashredux
(2,606 posts)We didnt have text messages before now they have the encrypted messages as well as other cellphone data .many of those boys will be trying to it a deal .
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)multigraincracker
(32,690 posts)Make it a young girl or a dead boy in the sex story and it would be 24 hours of news about it.
ancianita
(36,099 posts)How and why has the right wing biased, corporate owned media allowed the pro-corporate white supremacist Republican party, its funders, operatives and government tools gotten this far, right?
We're just not their audience. They're managing public perception and thought, and would never spotlight activity that leads the public to think the oligarchy is evil.
bucolic_frolic
(43,191 posts)brooklynite
(94,602 posts)Front page lead article in the Washington Post
https://www.freedomforum.org/todaysfrontpages/#DC_WP
Front page of the Los Angeles Times
https://www.freedomforum.org/todaysfrontpages/#CA_LAT
Front page of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution
https://www.freedomforum.org/todaysfrontpages/#GA_AJC
Shall I go on?
If you're referring to websites, that's because it ran yesterday, when it happened.
The embarrassing thing is all the "of course they didn't publish it" responses by people who didn't bother to check.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,011 posts)mucifer
(23,553 posts)brooklynite
(94,602 posts)Which story should not be on the front page?
Lasher
(27,598 posts)Response to mucifer (Original post)
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empedocles
(15,751 posts)[They still have the relatively big audiences]
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Semi literates such as Trump might miss the story until it's too damned late.
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)Picaro
(1,521 posts)Stewart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers was arrested in Little Elm, which is only some 30 miles north of Dallas. So, pretty close to home.
And, to sweeten the day, there is a story to the left of it with this headline: Paxton must release records.Ken Paxton, our felonious state AG, was up to his eyeballs in the insurrection and appeared at the rally immediately preceding the assault on the Capitol. He is refusing to release his communications from last January. This is required by the Texas state open records law.
He, of course, will not comply and will be sued. Then hell have yet another legal issue to add to his collection.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)are not instant news. I read a major metro paper every morning. The stories are always stuff I read the day before on the web. However, they are more in depth than those internet news stories, which is why I get a print copy of the paper.
Most newspaper websites do not show you the actual pages of the print paper. Also, the website gets updated on a regular basis.
Those indictments will be big news for some time, but might not appear on front pages of newspapers or as the lead stories on TV news. It's a little hard to explain those indictments in brief, simple language. That's why you think it's buried. It's not, but it also doesn't lead.