Why aren't the other Dem Senators waging massive campaigns against Man-chin and Cinema

[Magoo48]

in WV and AZ?

Is it something that just isn’t done?

Well, having an entire political party fight openly for white supremacy and Naziism while their followers stand around munching on animal dewormer and drinking piss hasn’t generally been done either.

[Walleye]

1. I don't think either of them is up for reelection until 2024

[BlueJac]

2. They should not be on committees either!

They can not be trusted.

[Sherman A1]

3. I believe that Bernie Sanders has done some

as to others, you would have to ask them.

[doc03]

4. Manchin could switch parties in a second and if we would primary him we

would get a Republican. Does he just back things Democrats want when his vote doesn't matter?

[Emile]

6. If we would primary him we would get a Republican, bwhaha.

What the hell do you Manchin is, a democrat? Primary his ass and let WV democrat voters decide. If they like him they'll keep him and no one has to worry about losing a seat. I really don't think after this he has a chance in hell of ever being reelected, but if you really think Republicans cross party lines to vote for a democrat your delusional.

[doc03]

10. He will have little problems getting re-elected he is doing exactly what the

people in WV want. He is stopping Democrats if he was a Republican we wouldn't know his name. He supports
Democrats when his vote doesn't matter when it does, he wants bi-partisanship. At least now McConnel isn't
leader. Trump won by what 40 points in WV?

[Emile]

12. He supports democrats, lol!

Since 2011, no Democrat currently serving in the Senate has split with the party more often, including 80 votes in which Senator Manchin was the only Democrat to break with his party and vote with the majority of Senate Republicans.

Overall, Senator Manchin has voted with the majority of Senate Republicans on 1,172 different votes or 54% of the votes he has taken as a United States Senator.

Since President Trump was inaugurated, no Senator (Democrat or Republican) has split with their party more often than Senator Manchin, including 23 votes in which he was the only Democrat to vote with the Republicans on issues such as:
https://www.manchin.senate.gov/about/bipartisanship/legislation

The scope of this is fair, imo....it also includes where he was not voting with Republicans. So many in his state need help, why he refused BBB is complicated for some to understand but it looks as if the WH has his number.

Senator Manchin’s comments this morning on FOX are at odds with his discussions this week with the President, with White House staff, and with his own public utterances. Weeks ago, Senator Manchin committed to the President, at his home in Wilmington, to support the Build Back Better framework that the President then subsequently announced. Senator Manchin pledged repeatedly to negotiate on finalizing that framework “in good faith.”
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/12/19/statement-from-press-secretary-jen-psaki-4/

[onenote]

17. His votes sometimes do matter -- a lot.

He has voted to confirm every judicial nominee put forward by Biden.

Kamala Harris has broken more 50-50 ties than any other Vice President since the 1800s. Couldn't have happened if Manchin wasn't voting with Democrats on things that mattered.

I hate that he and Sinema are refusing to yield on the filibuster. But if you think having a republican in his place wouldn't change anything, you need to think again.

[karynnj]

18. Explain why he has won and Trump won by about 30 points

He obviously does win some Republicans. There are not enough Democrats to win WV just with Democrats.

[Emile]

19. He won because he ran as a democrat. Give the Democratic voters a choice

between a fake democrat or a real one, they'll most certainly will vote for the real one! Republicans don't cross party lines to vote for a democrat. If you lived in Maine would you cross party lines to vote for moderate Susan Collins?

[Zeitghost]

20. WV voters apparently do

You can't explain Trump winning the state by such a wide margin and Manchin winning as a Dem otherwise.

[dumbcat]

24. Do you think a lot of democrat WV voters

voted for Trump? He won by a very wide margin.

Face it, there are more republican voters than democrat voters in WV.

[Emile]

27. We are discussing the senate race in case you don't know.

Listen, if what you say is true, Senator Manchin will win the primary and go on and win reelection. So tell me why are you so afraid? Could it be you agree with Senator Manchin sabotaging President Biden?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

7. Primary Sinema and we get a Republican too

AZ is not nearly as blue as people like to pretend it is. Sinema barely won in a wave election, and Kelly barely won in 2020.

[58Sunliner]

8. Don't know until you try.

[Calista241]

14. It's a big risk to take.

[58Sunliner]

30. Annnd the alternative??

[kysrsoze]

13. Kelly's approval is high. If we DON'T Primary Sinema...

We will have either her or a Republican. No difference, when it comes to her votes.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

16. Big difference when it comes to control of the Senate

I've heard a scenario where she runs Independent - that that's the only way she can win. And even that depends on a nutbar Republican like Wendy Rogers and a Justice Democrat type.
I'm also seeing some unsourced Tweets about her running for president, that's just ludicrous, whether true or not.

[Irish_Dem]

5. Maybe they know it is a waste of time and money.

Two senators have bolted and there is nothing that can be done to get them back.

[58Sunliner]

9. We are the ones who should be putting on the pressure.

And trying to find others who will be accountable. It is not a waste of time and money, and you will never know until the pressure is applied.

[Mad_Machine76]

11. Without knowing what they're saying or thinking privately

My thought would be that they are probably concerned that it will tip them over to joining the GOP in a more official capacity. Nobody wants that because they know how disastrous that would be. As bad as things are now, they could always be worse.

[Sneederbunk]

15. Some quietly agree with Manch/Sin.

[Zeitghost]

23. Exactly

They are keeping the heat off of other Senators that support the filibuster but don't want to rattle feathers in the current political climate.

[Bettie]

21. Because they have this veneer of "civility" that only Democrats are expected to have

and some of them are very happy never having to go on record as voting for or against anything.

[brooklynite]

22. What do you mean?

Massive campaigns to what? Defeat them in 2024?

Organize protests that won't impact their opinions?

You negotiate in the background because that's where its effective. And you don't share every detail with the blogosphere.

[oasis]

25. Nina Turner says Pres. Biden should "Gas up his jet" go to W.V. and AZ and

organize primaries on their asses.

I rarely agree with Nina Turner, but that one's a winner.

[Magoo48]

26. Agreed

[wiggs]

28. Hammer. Republicans. Every. Day.

For not supporting democracy. For supporting an insane narcissist. For covid misinformation. For climate change. For income inequality.

But mainly and frequently for not supporting a voting rights bill, placing their power political party above country and voters.

[wiggs]

29. Additionally: say EVERY day how grateful and happy we are that the orange one isn't

in charge anymore.