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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Democrats are going to own the news cycle from now to the midterm elections.
That is good news for the elections this year. Probably next month the Democrats will start the open hearings into what is now called seditious conspiracy. The open hearings will most likely go on for months.
I believe trials begin in march for some of the Proud Boys and others. Bannon goes on trial this summer.
I think it's fair to say Garland is going to indict many more people this year.
The Republicans have no way to defend themselves against what is about to happen. All they can do is what they are doing now. Remain silent, refuse to cooperate.
It is a hell of a thing, an historic event, watching one of our major political parties completely destroy themselves. What the Republicans have done, are still doing is not sustainable. Even if they win some elections this year, they still lose, because it's not sustainable.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)couldn't even pay the rent on their headquarters building.
Look where they are now. Some expert bullshit from Reagan and Gingrich solved that little problem.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)You can't compare the two.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)You can't compare the two.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and his admin were excused and reagan was deified by limbaugh
without limbaugh they're going to have a much harder time making believable excuses for the beautiful news coming out of the hearings and trials
trumpism, reaganism, gingrichsm and the new GOP all rot with limbaugh's dead ass
everyonematters
(3,433 posts)It could depend on how pervasive the involvement was from members of congress and the administration.
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Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)Poiuyt
(18,125 posts)DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,924 posts)One, that the media will actually give good coverage of all of this. And two, that voters actually care.
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at140
(6,110 posts)I feel a blue wave developing.
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KS Toronado
(17,259 posts)With more & more of the reQublicOn shenanigans seeing the light of day, independent voters will
be coming over to our side of the fence.
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brooklynite
(94,598 posts)January 6 / voting rights / "DEMOCRACY" is not in the forefront of voters' minds (even Democrats)
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Until it is gone, that is.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)So how would you go about explaining that to voters without their eyes glazing over? All they care about is that Democrats control everything and still can't get anything done.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)When one party disagrees with you if you say the the sun is hot it's awfully difficult to get things done. I think what's been accomplished by Biden/Harris is amazing.
at140
(6,110 posts)captain queeg
(10,208 posts)I agree this is much worse. As the facts are laid out, at some point the dam will burst. At least I hope so, or it will be the end for the US as we know it. A great many rethugs were willing accomplices but I think the majority are just staying silent. Passive accomplices.
Budi
(15,325 posts)They either report what we all watch or prove they are liars.
All eyes will be on the hearings, not the 24/7 press spin.
Good call.
Hope it's shown on prime time
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Even during Watergate, 2 of the 3 networks had regular programming each day.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Which never existed in the days of Watergate.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)As for the internet, same problem. Most people won't go out of their way to watch them.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Sure, but they cannot hide from it when its out there for all to see.
They will look less & less credible to more & more people.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)They'll rely on media reports which you feel will be "spun".
Budi
(15,325 posts)I surely don't watch MSM as I used to & I'm clearly not the only one.
What's the point when the same parade of guests repeat the same prescripted talkingpts & we know they are clearly incorrect.
They aren't going to hide the truth of the committee hearings when it out there for us all to see
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)You are spending time on a political blog. The average voter doesn't.
Budi
(15,325 posts)The average voter
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)And understanding the difference between politics in the blogosphere and politics in the real world.
Stuart G
(38,436 posts)Now that was a long time ago..Was it?.. One more question............................
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WAS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DESTROYED? yes or no?....end of discussion...
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Stuart G
(38,436 posts)When they lose like that, are they always ....gone for good?...like Dukakis?
Has anyone made a terrific ...."COMEBACK" ...AFTER A GREAT LOSS?
ok...here is a clue...from Stu....that person said, "You don't have me to kick around anymore"...back to
karynnj
(59,504 posts)in addition, McGovern was a soft spoken, well respected Senator. In 1972, Nixon et al smeared him with, I think, abortion, amnesty (for those who dodged the draft), and acid. They totally distorted who he was.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,372 posts)He flew the B-24 Liberator.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)After seeing your post, I used Google and now understand that they are not at all the same. Thanks again for the correction.
BComplex
(8,053 posts)I was about to throw something at the television when my husband put me in time out.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Because in the end, the truth WILL be revealed, & that goes for who they've been pitting against our Democracy, & why.
They're going to need another #cabocaucaus after this is over.
Poiuyt
(18,125 posts)"Biden has great proposals, but Republicans keep blocking them. Biden must be a terrible president."
Hello? Maybe it's the Republicans who are the terrible ones!
radius777
(3,635 posts)which simply presents a false reality to its viewers. Having an editorial slant is fine as long as it is tethered to journalistic integrity.
The fact is Biden's poll numbers are very low, for a variety of reasons some under his control some not.
Nicolle Wallace was talking about this on her show the other day, how some viewers get upset about her critique of the Biden Admin and Merrick Garland etc. But the coalition of voters (ie, 'the Resistance') that put Biden in the Whitehouse is in fact disappointed about how things are going and simply voices that frustration on shows like hers, which include on her panels everyone from former Repubs to moderates to progressives.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)January.
pandr32
(11,588 posts)They'll likely show doctored videos of top Democrats appearing to slur their words and talk about how Biden's Administration is causing inflation.
Stuart G
(38,436 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)FBaggins
(26,748 posts)There is almost no chance that the news cycle is going to be dominated by trials for people that most viewers have never heard of if things like inflation and Covid are still worthy of headlines and others are screaming about the death of democracy as we continue to fail to pass major portions of the Biden agenda.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)these will mean nothing and will get swept under the rug of fascism.
We need Some solid convictions of higher ups and some solid strong convictions with really harsh sentences or it will be just more kabuki in the long run.
Remember the Bush regime and all the criminals in it? Remember all those higher ups who served time?
Me neither.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)I'm not that optimistic.
Too many watch Fux, are so gullible, & believe the propaganda.
Roc2020
(1,616 posts)Truth Always destroys lies. Only matter of when.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)We can't even get real history taught.
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jaxexpat
(6,833 posts)History now knows that the dehumanization of the Carthaginians by the Roman's was all a bunch of propaganda to force the senate to finance a war in which olive oil and quadreme dealers would be the only profiteers.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Bbb. Voting rights. Covid. Biden = Failure all I see on TV. The billionaires control the message and we never take them on. Ever.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)
you could be right.
I plan to be watching CSPAN and MSNBC. It is historic, and it is far worse than Watergate was.
One of the differences in the country, tho, is just how many media outlets there are, and the extent to which they just keep nattering, 24/7.
wiggs
(7,814 posts)up the works long enough to take the house and senate, an impeachment will be in the headlines. Prob not successful, but...
bucolic_frolic
(43,188 posts)wryter2000
(46,051 posts)But neither can I buy into the pessimism you see here and elsewhere. I hope the committee strings the hearings out for a while so the issues aren't forgotten by November.
Welcome to DU.
Nixie
(16,954 posts)The funds are getting allocated and that means jobs!
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)the administration of the Last American hero.
No, not Jimmy Carter, although he should be remembered at least as maybe the last honest man in the White House. Not even Obama, who was a magnificent mirror of our uselessness as a people, but could not support his momentum and lost the Congress.
Dwight Eisenhower, who defeated Hitler and had the misfortune to work with Stalin and Khrushchev while doing it. He also had the misfortune to accompany MacArthur on the Bonus soldiers putdown, and got caught with his balls hanging out when the U-2 was shown to the nation.
But he survived as one of the Great Leaders of one of the finest times the US has ever seen. Or ever will see.
And what happened? From the opiate of victory we elected him but refused to listen as we built the biggest war machine in history. We had the chance to have Cuba as an ally, but a fateful visit to the Soviet embassy by Castro killed that off as dead as the Kennedy who tried to resist the Soviet takeover.
All due to the American Experience-- We'll be happy to do the right thing as long as it doesn't cost us anything, or reduce our profit.
Never, ever, ask the American public to support a policy that might cost us a nickel in cash or inconvenience. Policies, no matter how useful, must never call for sacrifice, no matter how little.
Every President in my lifetime either did not do jack shit, or helped to destroy the best parts of the nation at the behest of politicians or profiteers who insisted that what was best for them was best for you and me. It was those politicians and profiteers of either party who could not imagine supporting what was the worst of America, from racism and hatred to selling us pure poison.
And we were dumb and lazy enough to put up with it.
Boomerproud
(7,955 posts)us anything..." One for the ages! We are a nation of narcissists who love to pat ourselves on the back.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Muslim pro-terrorist gunman takes jewish hostages and is killed by Texas police?
forthemiddle
(1,381 posts)There were two impeachment trials, and you would be hard pressed to find people outside DU that could tell you what the Articles of Impeachment were all about, why will this be any different?
If someone doesnt care enough to know about January 6th by now, I dont think theses hearings will tilt the scale by much.
After all Netflix will probably have the next binge worthy cult classic (ie. the next Tiger King or Making a Murderer) by then.
People are no longer captive audiences, and at least 1/2 of the US see this as more political theatre.